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8800 Ultra whats the Equivalent?

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February 15, 2010 10:20:10 PM

Ok, so this morning my 8800 Ultra, started with the nvlddmkv, or w/e. Had the Red Lines all up on the screen with a little magic and a lot of luck, I got it to be stable, it runs games. But has sprites and other cool epileptic stuff, every now and then.

My main question is I have been using this for EVERYTHING. From Farcry 2, Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2. Crysis. You name it, I've tried it, oh and Vanguard, but that really doesn't count cause no one can run that smoothly.

So What's the Best card on the Market that can come upto Par with the 8800 Ultra? I'm not a tech genius at all, just looking for a price tag maybe under $200 US.

Thank you so much for the help,

Cruc1al
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February 15, 2010 10:27:25 PM

A GTS250 1GB or a 5770 1GB would do you well. I personally would go for a 4870 1GB or a GTS1GB if I had the budget but any way they are on par with with your 8800GTX at the least so you will be upgrading over all. I do have a EVGA 8800gtx my self and it does well when I use it and is a joy when playing wow.
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February 15, 2010 10:28:37 PM

For $160 US you can get a 5770 which is probably twice as good as an 8800 ultra. I'm not sure about that, just guessing.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That's a nice card, I know because I have it. You can probably get it cheaper somewhere else.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 10:43:54 PM

Yeah, an HD5770 is the best choice for the money under $200. It's a good amount faster than the 8800 Ultra plus it is DX11 and will use much less power/run cooler.
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February 15, 2010 10:45:12 PM

And if I buy this card. Is that box cooler thing a dust magnet and need regular maintenance?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 10:45:21 PM

Don't bother with the card you linked. It's more expensive because it has a factory overclock. You should be able to easily get a better OC by doing it yourself.
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February 15, 2010 11:11:13 PM

jyjjy said:
Both are fine but this one is $10 less and would be my choice;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Note that the one I linked only has 1 DVI output (hence the lower price), which is all that anyone would need really. The Sapphire has 2xDVI, which might make a difference to some tiny minority of people.

Amusingly enough, I didn't notice that when I bought this card, and I actually had to buy an HDMI > DVI cable for Eyefinity. That was still cheaper than buying one of the 5770 cards with two DVI outputs (the cable cost me £5 or what, $8).
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February 15, 2010 11:16:48 PM

To the OP, yes that will be great. The 8800 Ultra was a great card 3 years ago, but it's not even close to the performance of the 5770 in any department (heat, watts, fps, cost, anything).
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February 15, 2010 11:20:58 PM

Haha, so confused. The 250 and the 5770. Are they similar or different in performance, I could care less about HDMI, but its a plus when I buy a new monitor. I use DVI right now. So all things aside, with a budget of $200, which one would you purchase for a 2-3 year outlook?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 11:23:36 PM

The HD5770 is both significantly better and in terms of lasting for a while it is much more recent tech and DX11 compatible.
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February 15, 2010 11:28:37 PM

Try the oven trick on the 8800Ultra.
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February 15, 2010 11:28:39 PM

There is basically no reason at all to buy a gts250 or any Nvidia card right now Cruc1al.

I hate Nvidia with a passion I truly do, but recently I've been giving them the benefit of doubt when a poster gives a preference to them.

If you really can't imagine life without an Nvidia card, the 250gts is a solid card that won't disappoint you. All you've really done is spend more than what you could have, but you also get PhysX at least while no ATI card ever will.

Btw, the 5750 is closest to the gts250 in pure performance. Check out This. ;) 
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February 15, 2010 11:37:15 PM

Haha, Jennyh. I don't have a preference, I'm just looking for the better card, and from what everyone is telling me. It's the 5770 Series cards that are better.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 11:40:12 PM

cruc1al said:
Haha, so confused. The 250 and the 5770. Are they similar or different in performance, I could care less about HDMI, but its a plus when I buy a new monitor. I use DVI right now. So all things aside, with a budget of $200, which one would you purchase for a 2-3 year outlook?

If you do go with the 5770 I hope you don't end up contributing to this thread with a tale of woe. ;) 
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274979-33-5770-problems
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a b U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 11:49:48 PM

Mousemonkey said:
If you do go with the 5770 I hope you don't end up contributing to this thread with a tale of woe. ;) 
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274979-33-5770-problems


Naughty Mouse, linking to the problem without linking to the fact that it was fixed less than 2 weeks later.
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February 15, 2010 11:50:31 PM

Interesting mousemonkey. The fellow on the bottom of the post says its fixed by pumping up the voltage, so its really not that huge of a deal I wouldn't think.
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a b U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 11:53:20 PM

That issue was fixed Cruc1al, don't let it bother you.

Mousemonkey is just doing what any fanboy would do and trying to make your choice less appealing.

I'm telling you straight, if you want to stick with Nvidia then the gts250 is a decent card - it's actually almost identical to your 8800 ultra in performance. You can get better performance for cheaper with ATI, it's just a fact and the 5770 is a very potent card that will beat your 8800 ultra in every game you've ever played.
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February 15, 2010 11:53:32 PM

The 5770 is the card for me.

There's ton to choose from, and I'm not the best guy you want messing with overclocking, so which of the 5770's is a plug and play so to speak.
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February 15, 2010 11:55:29 PM

Mousemonkey said:
If you do go with the 5770 I hope you don't end up contributing to this thread with a tale of woe. ;) 
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274979-33-5770-problems


The number of success stories far outweighs this, and it is reportedly fixed with a driver update.

The 5770 is a great card for the money, especially if you plan to keep it for 2-3 years. If you plan to upgrade in less than 2 years, then a 4890 or GTX 275 will give you more performance for a bit higher of a price, but they don't have DX11.

http://www.provantage.com/galaxy-technology-27xif9hu1qu...
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-RadeonHD-4890-Graphic-HD489XZ...



They are 16-23% faster on average as you can see.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 11:56:24 PM

jennyh said:
Naughty Mouse, linking to the problem without linking to the fact that it was fixed less than 2 weeks later.

Oh really?, did you not notice the date of the first post? 11-24-2009 at 11:29:55 PM for the OP and 02-12-2010 at 06:21:13 AM for the last post from someone reporting problems. How is that two weeks?
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a b U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 11:57:51 PM

You don't need any of the extras so look for one of the new ones like I posted (HIS are very underrated, it's a great bundle and comes with a crossfire cable too).

I actually bought two 5770's a month ago, the HIS and a Powercolor Play edition one. I was quite unimpressed with the Powercolor in every way - the HIS has better boxing, better cooling (6 degrees C cooler in the same pc whether top or bottom card crossfire), a free Crossfire cable and looks nicer.

Otherwise the features are pretty much identical, ie the cards are just as powerful as each other in terms of fps.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 11:59:40 PM

cruc1al said:
Interesting mousemonkey. The fellow on the bottom of the post says its fixed by pumping up the voltage, so its really not that huge of a deal I wouldn't think.

If raising the voltage cures it for some would that not suggest that the BIOS of the cards is not quite right as this is not something that every user should have to do with a brand new piece of kit?
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February 16, 2010 12:00:14 AM

Mousemonkey said:
Oh really?, did you not notice the date of the first post? 11-24-2009 at 11:29:55 PM for the OP and 02-12-2010 at 06:21:13 AM for the last post from someone reporting problems. How is that two weeks?


Is that what you base your ideas on? Fair enough.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/281423-15-problems ohnoes the 260gtx is flawed only 5 minutes ago. Maybe you should spend more time helping these people instead of spreading FUD?
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February 16, 2010 12:01:36 AM

Holy crap, that's some useful information awesome! I'm a simple 26 year old, that just wants to play games for the next 2-3 Years in peace. Having an Nvidia or an ATI, isn't a big deal as long as it gets the job done, Battlefield Bad Company 2 will be my game of choice upcoming here in March.
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February 16, 2010 12:06:07 AM

jennyh said:
Mousemonkey is just doing what any fanboy would do and trying to make your choice less appealing.

I'm just pointing out the inaccuracies in previous posts made by some that this problem with the 5 series has a) Only just come to light and that b)It has been completely resolved for all users.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 12:09:23 AM

jennyh said:
Is that what you base your ideas on? Fair enough.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/281423-15-problems ohnoes the 260gtx is flawed only 5 minutes ago. Maybe you should spend more time helping these people instead of spreading FUD?

One post compared to the many, tell me what happened with your 5850 again I forget, did you keep it or RMA it?
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February 16, 2010 12:12:12 AM

Ummm, Mousemonkey. Back on topic?
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February 16, 2010 12:14:03 AM

I'm looking for a solid card under $200, the 5770 has a lot of pros and cons, so does every card out there. Nvidia hasn't done anything to lose my trust and I was using ATI, before I switched. It's all a matter of performance to me.
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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 12:16:09 AM

Getting the 250 wonr get you much for improvements over your old ultra, but the 5770 will, plus newer features less heat, and better drivers to come in some games.
So dont get the 250 if you want to see noticable different fps
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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 12:17:13 AM

I'd agree with JennyH - I've got the sapphire 5770 (was the cheapest with free shipping when I bought back in December !) with the egg shaped cooler and it runs everything just fine !

As for which to get depends on your system - If you have a small case with limited airflow then get the box cooler LIKE THIS XFX - Same price as the HIS egg shape but no $10 rebate though the inclusion of Battleforge makes up for that !) - As the Box coolers send more hot air out the back of the case to keep the rest of the system cooled a bit better (but the card itself tends to run a bit hotter since its airflow is restricted to what comes into the box ! - If you have good airflow in your system then get the Egg shaped cooler with the additional heatpipes ( Like THE HIS ) - IT is the type I have and most of the heated air still escapes through the back but some does stay in the case but they stay fairly cool due to more air reaching the heatpipes.

If you can afford a bit more then I would get the Sapphire Vapor X version - that uses their Vapor X cooling chamber keeping the card several degrees cooler even than the egg shaped cooler.
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February 16, 2010 12:24:26 AM

A GTS250/4850 is about the ballpark of an 8800 ultra probably a bit better here and there.

A 4870/GTX260/5770 would all be small upgrades to and likely to notice a small increase in fps half a few months ago 4870/260 would have been the easy choice but more and more the market is finding those to be rare and the 5770 is looking to be a decent deal as the price is fairly stable and you wont need to really shop around.

Either way it's just a matter of what you are willing to pay for hey if you're lucky maybe you can find a 4890 for 200 :D  remember dx11 is only a selling point if you have it for your vista/windows 7, and frankly at higher resolutions for a 5770 it's not even a selling point.

either way a 5770 unless you can find a very cheap 4870 or find any 4890 for around 200. As current prices for GTX260/275 are way to high and the price of a 4870 is now = to a 5770 and performance diff is quite small and should get smaller as driver matures a bit more.
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February 16, 2010 12:25:30 AM

Nice post JDFan this is all, a lot of good information many people will have when there 8800 Ultra doesn't cut it anymore.
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February 16, 2010 12:27:43 AM

Hey if you ran dual 8800 ultras and at 1920x1200 you'd probably would have been set for another year or two skating by in fps. ofc that is the premium of paying 700 bucks for a card assuming you got it new not a reseller.
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February 16, 2010 12:42:51 AM

One last thing, it's probably mentioned somewhere in the forums, DX 11 is the newest. But is it worth getting a 5770?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 1:06:41 AM

BF:BC2 is a DX11 game so if you want to play it at its best get an HD5000 card.
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February 16, 2010 1:16:04 AM

jyjjy said:
BF:BC2 is a DX11 game so if you want to play it at its best get an HD5000 card.


You sir, are an awesome guy, I didn't know this, 5770 card here we come.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 1:20:29 AM

cruc1al said:
5770 card here we come.

Good luck, I hope it works out for you.
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February 16, 2010 1:28:15 AM

Mousemonkey said:
Good luck, I hope it works out for you.


Thank you very much.
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February 16, 2010 3:59:18 PM

I would like to thank everyone that made my recent purchase possible.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I couldn't have done it without you, I plan on coming here much more often for my tech questions, you guys are amazing. :bounce: 

Oh and for anyone thinking about getting this card, I found a coupon good for $20 off, after the fact. But newegg.com was awesome enough to credit me $10 off. So I share this with you. :) 

http://www.couponsmarter.com/coupon-codes/29133.html
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a c 376 U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 5:31:09 PM

lol
You managed to get them to give you $10 off for a promocode that expired almost a month ago? Good job :p 
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February 16, 2010 5:53:57 PM

:o  I know right. It was worth a shot, and it payed off.

Not to mention the $10 Mail in Rebate. :pt1cable:  <--- Just looked like a cool smiley.
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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 6:06:11 PM

good job - my bro just recently got that card and is very happy with it ^^
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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 6:26:06 PM

Awesome that Sapphire Vapor-X should be able to hit 950MHz-1GHz pretty easily, and the 5xxx series gains a lot of performance with core overclocks.
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February 16, 2010 11:08:28 PM

LOL. I have no Idea how to overclock, is there a dummies manual? : ;) 
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