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I can't get 100 fps in CS 1.6

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February 16, 2010 6:53:44 AM

XFX Radeon 4890 1GB 256-bit
ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO
AMD Phenom II X4 955
samsung syncmaster 22'' lcd 120 hertz

I've been trouble shooting with my computer ever since I built it at xmas. I can't get 100 fps in CS 1.6 which is over 10 years old. My 5 year old PC gets 100 fps in the game. I've tried everything I can think of.

Please help me, I'm desperate, I'll give you cookies.

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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 7:03:41 AM

well, ill ignore the obvious fact the getting 100 FPS is absolutely no benefit to you...

firstly, what framerate ARE you getting? is it locked at a certain number (60, 91?) is it wildly varying? or staying at one level?

do you have vsync on?

are you running the latest video card drivers?

what kind of net connection do you have?

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February 16, 2010 7:17:34 AM

My fps varies from 50-100 and seems totally sporadic when it changes.

Vsync is off.

I'm running the latest drivers.

I have cable Internet.


Thanks for your reply and help.
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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 8:37:18 AM

Actually there is a benefit since he has a 120hz monitor. There's a whole writeup about fps and the human eye that is really interesting.

http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.ht...

In that regard i'd recommend enabling vsync UNLESS you notice input lag while it's on. Changing the amount of pre-rendered frames in your gfx control panel can eliminate the mentioned input lag while keeping the benefit of synced frames.

In the end it's about what you prefer i guess.

As for the lack of fps you seem to be getting, as welsh stated, updated your drivers should help.
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a c 106 U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 1:59:56 PM

Just curious, but you did connect the monitor to the Radeon 4890 and not the onboard gaphics right?
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February 16, 2010 2:55:50 PM

It's funny because I can remember beta 7 CS and I believe I was getting 70-80 fps on my Geforce 2 MX400 :) 
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February 16, 2010 3:06:11 PM

My drivers are updated.

My monitor is plugged directly into the vcard, not the mobo.

The problem is not so much that I don't have 100 fps, I'd be fine with 1 fps as long as the game seemed to run smoothly. The issue is that I can instantly tell when my fps drops because I become all choppy. I've been playing CS for 10 years, so I notice the slightest fluctuation in-game. Every time my fps drops I don't even need to look at my netgraph to tell, I pick it up instantly just by looking at the choppiness of my screen.
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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 3:22:16 PM

Sure its a FPS issue and not a network issue?
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February 16, 2010 3:38:17 PM

Positive.
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February 16, 2010 4:28:02 PM

you may want to leave your task manager up while you play. Minimize during the choppy moments and see if something is eating all your CPU time.

It is certainly possible the card is overheating and underclocking but I think there wouldn't be an underclock that went far enough to slow down on CS.
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February 16, 2010 4:31:52 PM

I never had trouble getting 100fps in CS with 400ms lag and packet loss. not sure why people think this causes issues.
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February 16, 2010 6:08:29 PM

My Cards temp is always around 48-50.

My benchmarks seem to be getting lower and lower. When I first setup my computer 3dmark 06 was at 16,000. Now it's down to 14,335. I don't know if it's my card or my cpu.
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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 6:23:25 PM

Giambatista said:
My Cards temp is always around 48-50.

My benchmarks seem to be getting lower and lower. When I first setup my computer 3dmark 06 was at 16,000. Now it's down to 14,335. I don't know if it's my card or my cpu.

You might have psu issues, That 3dmark 06 score is low for a 4890. I'm pretty sure a 4850 should get 14000. I have a 4770 , I get almost 15,000 stock and o/c gpu/cpu and I can get 18000.
i5 750
1 4770
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February 16, 2010 6:31:00 PM

For anyone with the 4890 card, I'm curious what settings you have your gpu clock and mem clock set at. I'm at850mhz for the gpu, 975 for the mem.

I'm also going to be giving a link to image shack with pictures of my CPU-Z results, showing my cpu stats and memory stats. If anybody sees anything that seems unusual, please let me know.

http://img695.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=30567520.png
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a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 6:40:53 PM

Giambatista said:
For anyone with the 4890 card, I'm curious what settings you have your gpu clock and mem clock set at. I'm at850mhz for the gpu, 975 for the mem.


I've got my Sapphire 4890 currently at 910/1100.
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a b U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 4:25:46 AM

Sounds like you have some idle processes that don't need to be there. Post a screen shot of your msconfig.
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August 22, 2012 3:57:29 AM

Sometimes if you were running an OS that uses up a bunch of CPU just to do the little animations and aesthetics that aren't necessary for the computer to operate.

I run a Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Basic with...

1526MB of RAM and 7000MB of VRAM
Intel(R) D CPU w/ 3.46GHz Processor Single-Core
with an Intel 82945G Express Chipset Graphics Card

My CPU core temperature is constantly 60C when Idle and can hit a whopping 68C when using 100% of my CPU

My connection is DSL with 1.5Mbps down and 0.5Mbps up speed, and when I play on the US/west servers, I can easily overshoot 100FPS depending on the map size, texture resolution, my ping, and how many people are on the server.

My ping is usually 80ms to 200ms on the right locations

with US/east servers, they can get 120ms to 400ms

and any server outside of the US, can max out @ 999ms even on a good day.

You have a better graphics card than I do, however my Vista came with a bunch of these aesthetic settings that weren't at all necessary, and so does any OS from Windows XP and above as far as I can tell...

Sometimes turning off some of these settings can help, but my VRAM is extremely useful, although it will use up your HDD space to compensate for a slower type of memory, but it will pay off when the right settings are there.

When you are not playing on a server, what kind of FPS do you get?

It may be faulty on the server's domain, although that depends on what server you get on when you see these framerates (Try another server and see if that's the case)

It could be that your computer demands too much, if so then changing some settings can help performance.

It could be that your game's settings are too high, some graphics cards have a hard time rendering OpenGL, and Vista's are prone to crashing on OpenGL settings. If that's so then go to the desktop icon for CS1.6 > right-click > properties

and at the end of the target location link, just add this

-soft

this will force the game to run in Software rendering, which could assist with fixing lagspikes and some crashes that may occur randomly or in-game (especially on a Vista)

if those methods don't work, then try adding onto your VRAM, try 7000 to start off with, this may seem like "over-kill" for such an old game, however the VRAM is much slower and will require more of it to handle multiple tasks. (You may have to restart your computer, depending on what you set as the amount of VRAM)
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a c 198 U Graphics card
August 22, 2012 3:57:37 AM

I'm thinking it could be the PSU as well.
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