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February 26, 2010 8:45:51 PM


Below is what I'm looking to build. Primary use will be photoshop. I know the video card is overkill but I can't find review for a GPU for photoshop just gaming. Please let me know any recommendations. Specially around memory, PSU & GPU.
Thanks


OPTICAL DRIVE:
LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

CASE:
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

PSU:
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail

RAM (one of these TWO):
OCZ 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3X1600R2LV6GK - Retail
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8TU-6GBPI - Retail

MOTHERBOARD:
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

CPU:
Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail

CPU Cooler:
Tuniq Tower 120 Universal CPU Cooler 120mm Cooling Fan and Fan Controller/Heatsink - Retail

GPU:
BFG Tech BFGEGTX260MC896OCDE GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail

HARD DRIVE:
Western Digital Caviar Black **NOT SURE OF SIZE YET**
February 26, 2010 8:52:47 PM

what is your budget that you are trying to abide by? I would make sure you have the best processor you can get for the money as photoshop is cpu intensive. and if you can afford it get a workstation graphics card!

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategor...

if you can not afford a workstation card than that card will do although it was meant mostly for gaming not realtime rendering....
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February 26, 2010 9:01:12 PM


Thanks for the quick reply. Look at about $1000, could go over but under would be better ;) 
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February 26, 2010 9:30:27 PM

oh and i recomend the gskill ram by the way
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February 26, 2010 9:35:24 PM

darkjuggalo2000 said:
hmm for that price i would say you are probably good with what you have.. however i would go with an ati graphics card instead like this one...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this would perform better and be cheaper as well

or you could get a low end workstation card if you never plan on gaming like this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

good luck!!



Very helpful, I will have to go with the HD 5770 since it ahs Dual DVI. Just curious why would you pick the XFX HD-577X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 over the other card the GeForceĀ® GTX 260 OC MAXCORE 55 896MB GDDR3 PCIe 2.0?

Thanks again!!
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February 26, 2010 9:39:49 PM

gddr5 support, directx 11 support(wich you will benifit from when rendering), it runs at 850mhz as aposed to the 590mhz of the other card.... and its all around just a better card
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February 26, 2010 9:49:09 PM

Case / PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo - Suggest Asus USB 3 / SATA III Boards

GFX - At it's $155 price of 3 months ago, 260 was a good buy, not at $200+

CPU - i7 -930 is supposed to hit before monday.

RAM - CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 Model CMX6GX3M3C1600C7 w/ CAS 7 timings
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heat Sink - One of the top 3 here;
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_Heatsinks
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm#INTELHEATSI...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

pick a TIM from the top few here:
http://www.hwreviewlabs.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/therma...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Hard Drives - Check out the performance charts and pick whatever 500 GB per platter drive performs best under your usage patterns. The WD Black 2 TB is a good choice but at smaller capacities, you are limited to the Seagate 7200.12 or the Spinpoint F3. The 7200.12 excels in gaming, multimedia and pictures whereas the F3 wins at music and movie maker. See the comparisons here (copy past link in manually, link won't work in forum):

(http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...[2371]=on&prod[2770]=on)
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February 26, 2010 9:51:50 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Case / PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo - Suggest Asus USB 3 / SATA III Boards

GFX - At it's $155 price of 3 months ago, 260 was a good buy, not at $200+

CPU - i7 -930 is supposed to hit before monday.

RAM - CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 Model CMX6GX3M3C1600C7 w/ CAS 7 timings
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heat Sink - One of the top 3 here;
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_Heatsinks
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm#INTELHEATSI...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

pick a TIM from the top few here:
http://www.hwreviewlabs.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/therma...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Hard Drives - Check out the performance charts and pick whatever 500 GB per platter drive performs best under your usage patterns. The WD Black 2 TB is a good choice but at smaller capacities, you are limited to the Seagate 7200.12 or the Spinpoint F3. The 7200.12 excels in gaming, multimedia and pictures whereas the F3 wins at music and movie maker. See the comparisons here (copy past link in manually, link won't work in forum):

(http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...[2371]=on&prod[2770]=on)


I would have suggested all of that exdept for the 1,000 dollar budget
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February 26, 2010 9:52:31 PM

Nvidia Quadro CX series is marketed for use with apps like photoshop.. Personally i'd suggest you to go for as much ram as possible.. Since you are not inclined towards gaming, you can do good with any entry level GPU also.. I'd recommend an nvidia card over the ATI because of the stability of both the display and the drivers..
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February 26, 2010 9:53:45 PM

that i7 will be like 300+ buy its self...
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February 26, 2010 9:56:22 PM

Emperus said:
Nvidia Quadro CX series is marketed for use with apps like photoshop.. Personally i'd suggest you to go for as much ram as possible.. Since you are not inclined towards gaming, you can do good with any entry level GPU also.. I'd recommend an nvidia card over the ATI because of the stability of both the display and the drivers..


he has 6 gigs of ram and a great cpu... he should get the best gpu for the money so this computer can have a multipurpose behind it... and yes nvida has better drivers but not better cards.. I wish there was a company that made cards like ati and had drivers like nvida that would be awesome...
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February 26, 2010 9:58:08 PM

however next month ati is releasing a major driver overhaul so everyone be sure to update your ati drivers!!! (just before nvidia's 4xx series releases)
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February 26, 2010 10:23:01 PM

He has himself admitted the GPU selected by him as an overkill and so only my recommendation followed.. No point getting the extra horsepower only to driver inside speed limits.. If he intents to multipurpose ( gaming in another words ), then me too would agree with your verdict..
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February 26, 2010 11:14:36 PM

yea i see what you are saying... what i was just simply saying is that for the price he would pay for the gtx 260 (179.99) he could get a hd5770 (159.99) and have a better card. that was simply if he was going to go that route. I also suggested a workstation card made for the purpose of 3d rendering/ 2d rendering programs like photoshop, solid works, auto cad etc... but i also mentioned "only if he does not intend to game. He said he would rather have the 5770, wich implies that he may game a little or would like to have the option to in the future. either way photoshop is not going to rely heavily on the graphics card so your right it really doesnt matter.. just make sure you have plenty of ram (6 gigs should be fine) and a decent cpu (the i7 bloomfield will suffice) and you should be a ok!
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February 27, 2010 5:16:43 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

Would it be worth the $90 to get the ASUS P6X58D Premium VS the Gigabyte GA-C58A-UD3R?

Also saw Fry's has the Thermaltake V1 CPU Cooler $20 AR, dirt cheap, worth it or stick w/ a better cooler?


Thanks agian
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February 27, 2010 5:04:22 PM

no i would go with the gigabyte and if you are not going to overclock i would stick with the stock heat sink
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March 1, 2010 5:56:09 PM

930 came out last night.....$298 on newegg.
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March 1, 2010 8:02:37 PM

I new it would be close to 300 dollars....
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March 1, 2010 8:45:40 PM

Yeh, jsut like the i7-920 at Newegg. I wonder if ther egoing to be 200$ at mircocenter?
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March 8, 2010 2:33:07 AM

Computer is built thanks for the posts.

**BUT** I'm using the stock CPU Cooler (no overclocking yet). can someone recommend a CPU cooler that will fit in the Antec 300 case? One on the quieter side.

Thanks again
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March 9, 2010 12:28:14 AM

after speaking to the Nvidia reps, i decided to purchase a quadro fx1800 web price $419. it is just a little slower than the GeForce GTX 285, but faster than gtx 260, but it is more stable and runs on less than half the energy. So you can save on a PSU and on electricity. Plus the drivers are a lot better and you get better support being a workstation card, drivers have been extensively tested. I spoke estensively, comparing differnt cards and asking the plus and minus. This would be the best bet, also if you ever get into video, this card would also work. I told them that I would be using this card for illustrator and photoshop mostly on 2 d work only. Here is the system i'm building: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/282181-31-workstation...

One thing this is not a gaming card, so if you ar looking for that then the quadro fx1800 would not be your card.
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March 9, 2010 5:43:40 PM

Why not buy a GTX 285/4870, and then load Quadro/Fire bios?
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March 10, 2010 2:29:00 AM

builderbobftw said:
Why not buy a GTX 285/4870, and then load Quadro/Fire bios?


That wont work... And if it some how does, then it will not be stable. Completely different hardware so completely different drivers/software/bios settings
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March 10, 2010 6:18:09 PM

Yes, yes it does. it it IS stable. I've seen plenty of people do it. Some of the ATI fire carda re jsut 4870s with diffrent bios.
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March 13, 2010 2:00:11 PM

that card is not meant to handle the accuracy involved with rendering... it is a gaming card and is meant for on screen pinpoint accuracy. when working with photoshop and such programs you want the best for that that you can get....

Dont go the Half a** route just get the workstation card. Unless you plan on gaming then get a gaming card... but whatever you do dont get the wrong drivers for your card!
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March 13, 2010 5:38:51 PM

Not everyone wnts to pay the thousands of dolars that a FX5800 costs.
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March 25, 2010 9:36:46 PM

What will you actually be doing in Photoshop? I have multiple machines setup with Photoshop and each one is built somewhat differently due to its primary purpose. Simply scanning files into an archive takes very little horsepower. Working with a large scan, performing lots of edits, and adding layers will have you wanting for a fast processor and a multi-drive array.

Like you, I am also building a new Photoshop machine...although my budget is $10-$12K! Even though the budgets are quite different, the thought process is the same.

Let's explore this a little deeper.

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