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February 16, 2010 11:01:52 PM

My friend is going to upgrade his video card, he has the nvidia 9400 GT these are his specs:

Processor: Regor 240 2.8 ghz dual core
MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM
Ram: 2GB DDR2 800 mhz
PowerSupply: Antec BP-550 550W continous 3 rails (22A, 22A, 25A)
VideoCard: Sparkle 9400 GT 512MB DDR2

He plays games at a low resolution 1280 by 1024 for the most part. These are the cards I've been looking at.


$100 HD 4850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$130 HD 4860 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$170 HD 5770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I heard the 4860 is a crippled 4890, if he gets it he will probably want to overclock it.

Didn't really think the 4870 was all that great of a price, and the 4860 just looks really nice. What do you guys suggest?

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February 16, 2010 11:17:24 PM

GET THE HD5770!!!!!

I have one and it rocks go with the xfx for the warranty and you can even overclock it if you want!!

I play crysis and get great frame rates never an issue with the 5770!! definately worth it!!!
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February 16, 2010 11:28:15 PM

So you don't think getting the 4860 and overclocking it is a better idea? It's only $130 and I heard it can be overclocked to 4890 speeds.
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 11:29:24 PM

If he wants to save some money, then go ahead and grab an HD5770. It's not that much, costing $144 for the 512MB version (which is what he needs), and $125 for an OPEN box.
February 16, 2010 11:35:12 PM

Yeah I didn't think the $144 version was a good option, The cooler looks like crap and it's made by powercolor
February 16, 2010 11:35:31 PM

I would grab the open box one but he can't buy it yet, he's buying it in a week
February 16, 2010 11:45:26 PM

I am telling you if you get the xfx 5770 you can overclock that as much as you want and xfx covers it by their warranty !!! a bargain and deffiantly future proof!! Its the next generation card 45nm technolagy and it can take you overclocking it!!! way more efficient overall just a better card...

this is what i have and with the free shipping it makes the cut!!! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2010 11:45:53 PM

Having the power of a 4890 over a 4870/5770 at that low resolution wont make much of a difference. I recomend the 5770 because it has DX11 and is more futureproof because of it.
February 17, 2010 12:09:20 AM

Ok it looks like I'll be going with the 5770, if he doesn't end up with that much money though. What should he get instead?
February 17, 2010 12:14:47 AM

If he cant get that much money than go with the 5750 and overclock to 5770 specs
a b U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 12:14:51 AM

probly the 4850 because of the low resolution
February 17, 2010 12:15:19 AM

Remember go with xfx brand!!!!
February 17, 2010 12:18:46 AM

hmm... i would deffinatly go with the 5750 over the 4850 for the case of future upgrading you can allways get better hardware in the future when money comes your way but you want to be one generation ahead so your money is not going into gpu but other components instead such as processor, mobo, ram get the 5770 for 45nm stucture, direct X 11 and better stability in over clock!!!
a b U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 12:27:36 AM

Get the XFX 5770l that will hold you over till you can upgrade the rest of your PC.
February 17, 2010 12:35:19 AM

definatly stay in the 5700 series with your new purchase they will keep you up to speed for a while
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 12:39:37 AM

whitefang said:
Ok it looks like I'll be going with the 5770, if he doesn't end up with that much money though. What should he get instead?


Even the Open Box version houses some kind of return policy. To be honest, there's kind of a fail-fail situation if he can't muster up an additional $20. An HD4850 for $100 is nice. The HD5750 is useless at the price of $130, because although it has DX11, it has no longevity if your friend buys another monitor a year down the road.
February 17, 2010 12:56:39 AM

Well he's playing with a 9400 GT right now so anything will be better. So we'll see in a week. I'll be checking the open box deals.
February 17, 2010 1:03:05 AM

deffinatly worth a look at the open box deals however i dont see how the new series 5750 doesnt have longevity it is hdmi compatable and rated at higher resolution than your specs so.. i would think a new monitor would work even better with that card... shadow please provide emphisis on this... I have a 5770 running on a 23" monitor at 1650 X 1080 dpi..
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 1:22:13 AM

HD5750 = Slightly worse HD4850 + DX11 + Lower Power + Less Heat + Eyefinity.

The extra tech doesn't cover up for the blatant fact; it still sucks, by next-generation's standards, and it's somewhat decent (mid-level entry card) by last-gen's standards.
February 17, 2010 1:24:50 AM

i understand but it doesnt sound like this person is trying to play crysis on very high with anti aliasing all the way up or anything obviously you are a hardcore gamer for an entry level gamer i would suggest the 5750,, and the 5770 will still give great framerates in crysis on very high with aa on 4x so i feel it has plenty of power...
February 17, 2010 3:09:43 AM

Remember darkjuggalo, I am trying to get the best video card for the price. The 5750 = trash for the price.
a b U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 3:14:48 AM

Get a 5770, they go around $160ish
February 17, 2010 3:35:24 AM

Alright thanks. Hopefully an open box one will be available when he buys it next week.
a b U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 10:52:37 AM

Again, I think the 5770 is underpowered for its price; its basically a 4870 with DX11 support, and baed on the numbers I've seen, the 5770 is probably too weak to be a decent DX11 card. And really, if your friend is doing such a low resolution, DX11 probably isn't that big a concern...

For that resolution, anything over a 4670 is probably overkill. Even so, the 4850 is by far the best price/performance for that resolution.
February 17, 2010 3:32:58 PM

gamerk316 said:
Again, I think the 5770 is underpowered for its price; its basically a 4870 with DX11 support, and baed on the numbers I've seen, the 5770 is probably too weak to be a decent DX11 card. And really, if your friend is doing such a low resolution, DX11 probably isn't that big a concern...

For that resolution, anything over a 4670 is probably overkill. Even so, the 4850 is by far the best price/performance for that resolution.



based on the numbers you seen?



I own one of these "weak cards" and let me tell you it blows my friends 4870 out of the water!!! i get way better crysis frame rates than he can get
February 17, 2010 3:35:12 PM

remember the teraflops of pure computing power that comes with the 5700 series and the multicore bug fixes that are built in the 4800 series cant compare. lets put it this way if you can perform the same tasks without having to actually work as hard is it not better?
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 3:38:39 PM

HD4870 = HD5770 in pure performance.
HD4850 = HD5750 in pure performance.

February 17, 2010 3:49:27 PM

ATI 4870 or 5770.
4870-Cheaper, besides, from what I've seen, DX11 really inst that big a jump from DX10. Rather like Crysis Warhead in DX9 vs 10. Almost unnoticeab;e, but with a massive performance penalty.
a b U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 3:52:47 PM

5770 FTW don't buy old tech if you can afford new
February 17, 2010 3:53:52 PM

spentshells said:
5770 FTW don't buy old tech if you can afford new




well said
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 6:45:22 PM

madass said:
ATI 4870 or 5770.
4870-Cheaper, besides, from what I've seen, DX11 really inst that big a jump from DX10. Rather like Crysis Warhead in DX9 vs 10. Almost unnoticeab;e, but with a massive performance penalty.


DX10 wasn't a huge jump from DX9, hence the almost-never-used. DX11 is a bigger jump with better optimizations.
February 17, 2010 9:11:41 PM

Darkjuggalo you just proved that the cheaper 4870 crushes the 5770. The only reason why the 5770 is any good is because it supports eyefinity and DX11. He can't even use DX11 yet so that cancels that out. The good thing about the 5770 is that it will probably get better with the driver updates.
February 17, 2010 9:12:21 PM

shadow187 said:
DX10 wasn't a huge jump from DX9, hence the almost-never-used. DX11 is a bigger jump with better optimizations.


also well said, DX11 added teselation and full quad core support for smoother game play.!!!!
February 17, 2010 9:16:43 PM

whitefang said:
Darkjuggalo you just proved that the cheaper 4870 crushes the 5770. The only reason why the 5770 is any good is because it supports eyefinity and DX11. He can't even use DX11 yet so that cancels that out. The good thing about the 5770 is that it will probably get better with the driver updates.


It crushed the 5770 in DX9 benchmarks the 4870 cant play DX11 and is not all that good with Dx 10 You cant take a benchmark study and use it as the law... In the end newer hardware is better.. how long is he wanting this system to last him? does he care more about visual quality, or performance? the 5770 will provide better visiual quality while the 4870 can perform! so in the end the decision is up to you but i go for the experience when gaming that is why when i weighed out my options i bought the 5770!
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 9:30:55 PM

Juggalo, the HD4870 has a 10% increase over the HD5770 from the benchmarks. They aren't the law, but they are the determining factor in performance.
February 17, 2010 9:40:52 PM

shadow187 said:
Juggalo, the HD4870 has a 10% increase over the HD5770 from the benchmarks. They aren't the law, but they are the determining factor in performance.


I understand that but like i just said the 4870 has performance as the 5770 has visual quality.. ie tessilation,Their massive parallel processing power,better ATI Stream technology, and lower power consumption allowing for better overclocking
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 17, 2010 9:52:13 PM

Tessellation isn't used in DX9/10 games, which is what the majority (being 99.99%) of all games are. DX11 is used in 5 games, I think, and there are more coming every month.

Indeed, an HD5750 is good enough for 1280x1024 for the next couple of years. An HD5770 is better. It's simple as that. What we're looking for is longevity.
February 17, 2010 9:56:35 PM

i am running my 5770 at 1920 X 1080 and it looks amazing and im confident i will be using this card for quite some time and continue using it as Dx 11 slowly becomes the majority leaving Dx 9 and DX 10 games behind like 3 or 4 years from now and i will probably get a second and cross fire when i feel it is getting slow....
February 18, 2010 12:10:29 AM

I'd get the 5770. Here is why:

1. it is $170

2. it has almost perfect 5 stars

3. Since it is the only one in the 5000 series, it is the only one with the latest DirectX (DX11)

4. it has better settings than those other ones

5. it has stream technology (same with all).

6. it is part of the 5000 series. the latest (and best) series of ATI. it has all the advantages.

7. It has latest shader model (5.0)

8. latest openGL (3.2)

9. all of the other ones at this level is like $200 or more, and ones at this price are bad, like NVIDIA 250.

10. Has crossfire

11. You can play all the latest games full resolution (DiRT 2, Stalker, metro 2033, Aliens vs predator...)

12. It's a 5770! BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.

(this is where I found my information, and what I"m getting)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...

:hello:  any more Questions? You can message me. :hello: 
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 18, 2010 12:16:09 AM

It's $145, Bezerker, :p .
February 18, 2010 12:17:29 AM

shadow187 said:
It's $145, Bezerker, :p .


where?
February 18, 2010 12:18:57 AM

and I forgot, tessellation
February 18, 2010 12:19:20 AM

but thats the 512 mb version the 1 gig is 170 dollars
February 18, 2010 12:20:02 AM

i have a 1 gig version it cost me 179 when i bought it
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