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I was surprised to see that these are now available, even at Walmart.
Essentially the same price as the earlier 2300's and the 2100's before
that. Good price (4@ <$10) for good batteries.
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"Ken F." <Kenfberg@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I was surprised to see that these are now available, even at Walmart.
> Essentially the same price as the earlier 2300's and the 2100's before
> that. Good price (4@ <$10) for good batteries.
>
> KF
how much more can they increase those little batts.......has anyone actually
tested the specifications............us non tech beings must take their word
for it.............it might just be a change in case printing that's why
there is no extra charge....
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Toy wrote:
>
> "Ken F." <Kenfberg@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:8640f0bb.0411272205.7daa0be1@posting.google.com...
>>I was surprised to see that these are now available, even at Walmart.
>> Essentially the same price as the earlier 2300's and the 2100's before
>> that. Good price (4@ <$10) for good batteries.
>>
>> KF
>
> how much more can they increase those little batts.......has anyone actually
> tested the specifications............us non tech beings must take their word
> for it.............it might just be a change in case printing that's why
> there is no extra charge....
I start holding my tongue in my cheek when I read some battery specifications.
Stereo makers have been inflating amplifier's wattage for years. Just recently
there was a class action law suit in the US forcing air compressor manufacturers
to state the true horsepower of their electric motors. Many '5 Hp' compressors
being sold by large respected firms weren't much over 1 real Hp.
I'm not saying Energizer's claims are false, but I do *really* wonder about the
ratings of some of the Taiwanese and Korean knock off batteries you see on eBay.
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I tried the 2300mAH batteries. Used the same Maha 204F charger I've
used with various other battery brands for several years. The initial
perfromance was great but after about 10 recharge cycles they literally
died. Anyone else have similar experience?
Ken F. wrote:
>I was surprised to see that these are now available, even at Walmart.
>Essentially the same price as the earlier 2300's and the 2100's before
>that. Good price (4@ <$10) for good batteries.
>
>KF
>
>
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:17:24 +0000 (UTC), Toy hath writ:
>
> "Ken F." <Kenfberg@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:8640f0bb.0411272205.7daa0be1@posting.google.com...
>>I was surprised to see that these are now available, even at Walmart.
>> Essentially the same price as the earlier 2300's and the 2100's before
>> that. Good price (4@ <$10) for good batteries.
>
> how much more can they increase those little batts.......has anyone actually
> tested the specifications............us non tech beings must take their word
> for it.............it might just be a change in case printing that's why
> there is no extra charge....
> what do we think
LOL!
A Panasonic kit I bought at Costco contains AA NiMH's that state:
"Up to 2100 mAH". That means even when they go totally _dead_ ,
they'll still meet manufacturer's spec's. sigh...
However, they do seem to perform "ok". But, I really like the Panasonic
charger: It's a plug-into-the-wall module with a fold away mains
plug, and it runs on 100-240 VAC, 50/60 cycles. Great for traveling.
Jonesy
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> Ken F. wrote:
>>
>> I was surprised to see that these are now available, even at Walmart.
>> Essentially the same price as the earlier 2300's and the 2100's before
>> that. Good price (4@ <$10) for good batteries.
>
Jim Kopec <jwkopec@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I tried the 2300mAH batteries. Used the same Maha 204F charger I've
> used with various other battery brands for several years. The initial
> perfromance was great but after about 10 recharge cycles they literally
> died. Anyone else have similar experience?
It makes sense that a battery design that increases capacity would have
the side effect of reducing longevity (or increasing weight and/or cost).
Is measuring 100 milliamps for 23 hours ths same as measuring 1 milliamp
for 2300 hours? Anybody know? Such a test would not be hard to perform.
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Bill Tuthill wrote:
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> Is measuring 100 milliamps for 23 hours ths same as measuring 1 milliamp
> for 2300 hours?
No.
> Anybody know?
Only approximately, but for starters, the extremes will deliver less
life than rated; the low-drain case because it is competing with
self-discharge for depletion of the charge, and the high-drain case
because useful life is wasted through heat.
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> It makes sense that a battery design that increases capacity would have
> the side effect of reducing longevity (or increasing weight and/or cost).
>
> Is measuring 100 milliamps for 23 hours ths same as measuring 1 milliamp
> for 2300 hours? Anybody know? Such a test would not be hard to perform.
No free lunch. Reliability, self-discharge rate, and the number of
charge/discharge cycles will all be degraded. As to the question about
rapid discharge, none of them reach their rated capacity at high discharge
rates. In other words, less current drain generally yields better capacity
(until the self discharge factor kicks in).
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Check out the "great battery shootout" at
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM Good info and down near the bottom, he discusses testing
methods and amphour ratings etc. Some good info there
(besides, you wouldn't get 1 ma for 2300 hours -- it would
"self discharge" before that !!)
mikey
"Bill Tuthill" <can@spam.co> wrote in message news:41ab7caa@news.meer.net...
> > Ken F. wrote:
> >>
> >> I was surprised to see that these are now available, even at Walmart.
> >> Essentially the same price as the earlier 2300's and the 2100's before
> >> that. Good price (4@ <$10) for good batteries.
> >
> Jim Kopec <jwkopec@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > I tried the 2300mAH batteries. Used the same Maha 204F charger I've
> > used with various other battery brands for several years. The initial
> > perfromance was great but after about 10 recharge cycles they literally
> > died. Anyone else have similar experience?
>
> It makes sense that a battery design that increases capacity would have
> the side effect of reducing longevity (or increasing weight and/or cost).
>
> Is measuring 100 milliamps for 23 hours ths same as measuring 1 milliamp
> for 2300 hours? Anybody know? Such a test would not be hard to perform.
>
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