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March 2, 2010 12:33:06 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week
BUDGET RANGE: approximately $1000 After Rebates
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard and mouse
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, but will go else where if shipping doesn’t kill me.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: No Preference
OVERCLOCKING: No
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe
MONITOR RESOLUTION: Need a monitor included in this build 21” if possible, but can go smaller
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Need Monitor

I originally wanted to do this for $800 or so, but I cannot decide if I really need to go crossfire. I mainly play tf2, wow, and rts, so perhaps I don’t need crossfire. I am leaning towards crossfire for upgradeability, which is also why I picked the mobo I did. Any comments or ideas would be helpful, and if you guys can think of a reason why I don’t need crossfire then perhaps we can get this down to around $800 for all. The GPU I want has a question mark because it is out of stock at newegg, and I do not know what would be a good substitute. I got this build from hardware revolution and changed the hard drive.

Mobo 125 -15 rebate GIGABYTE GA-790XTA-UD4 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Crossfire 8X/8X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU 109 AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz Quad-Core AM3 95W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM 105 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 1.5V DDR3 1600 Dual Channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU 195 ? Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 DirectX 10.1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD 85 SAMSUNG HD754JJ 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OD 24 LITE-ON Black 24X SATA CD/DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PS 100 -20 rebate CORSAIR 650W CrossFire/80 PLUS Certified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case 110 -10 rebate COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case – Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $853-$45= $802

I have no idea what to do as far as monitors go, just something ideal for gaming 21' or less around $200 or less.

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March 2, 2010 1:23:42 AM

I think this is a good start--however you can improve slightly.

So your graphics should either go up to a 5830 or down to a 5770... If you had to you could start with a 5770 now and get a second to upgrade when you have more money.

In terms of the CPU I would consider Tom's recommendation at $90 -- The Athlon X3 Rana at 3.0 ghz. The higher clock speed and 3 cores offers good gaming performance. Saving money here might help you put more money where you need it--into the graphics.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Another area in which you can save money is the power supply. The corsair 650w is an awesome PSU, but you could actually run the system you list with the 450w, and you could crossfire with the 550w. Unless you want the extra room for power efficiency or overclocking you could save here.
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March 2, 2010 8:22:41 AM

I believe I will stay with current PS. I would rather not cut it close and may decide to over clock at some point.
Adding in the recommendations:

With cpu change that would be $109-$87 = save $22
GPU change to 5770 195-190 = save $5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Add in the monitor approximately $180 (w/ shipping)

And we have a total of $955

Thanks for the recommendations guys.
March 2, 2010 8:34:48 AM

PSUs are likely to have a longer lifespan than other components, so a beefier supply can make sense. So even if you don't start overclocking, it gives you room for future upgrades.
March 2, 2010 12:28:27 PM

Is there a reason you went with the expensive XFX?

You can get a sapphire for $149 with external vent:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or-

The other XFX 5770 model is $159.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think your argument for keeping the good psu is worthwhile--you will get better energy efficiency and run cooler with the 650w--and adding every component you can imagine wont even stress it. Most new builders try to cut corners on the power supply--going for quality here is smart.
March 2, 2010 3:42:27 PM

I just picked the first 5770 I saw, but I will switch to the cheaper one if it can handle a 21" monitor.

So the current changes made are
XFX 5770 $169
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Athlon X3 Rana at 3.0 ghz. $87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor Aprox $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Would there be any reason to switch back to my orginal processor if I have the money? +$22
CPU 109 AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz Quad-Core AM3 95W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I will probably be ordering the parts in the next 6 hours or so, any final thoughts? I'm assuming all of this is still compatable, but will have to check it later.

Thank you everyone.
March 2, 2010 7:07:09 PM

Just realized I had a link to the wrong RAM. This is the ream I meant.

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Got everything in the cart to check the price. With shipping the total is $998.54
March 2, 2010 8:16:49 PM

I dont know anything about ram so i'll skip jumping in on that.

I was just looking over your choices...that monitor seems like a good deal, but $17.99 shipping seems high. You might want to browse the free shipping models and see if they are really more expensive.

Edit: or browse whatever your local office depot has available.
March 20, 2010 7:15:44 AM

Friends out der... Dont get attracted by massive cache on phenoms.. I had 550 BE.... for getn triple core advantage i reslaed it and got athlon x3 440 and i saw that this cpu outplays 550BE in every case. In gaming the third core does make a huge difference. Battlefield bad company 2 on high settings at 1280*1024 and get 60 frames.. whereas on 550be i used to get 48.... At low resolutions you the CPU power is reflected rather than GPU power.......
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