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March 2, 2010 1:25:35 PM

evga 790i ftw maybe digiial pwm (if i can find this)
intel core 2 quad 2.8+ extreme 9 (if i can find)
bfg tech gts 250 o.c.
w.d. velicoraptor 300 g.b. 10000 rpm
w.d. mybook 1.5 terabyte
king win mach 1 1220 watts powersupply
g. skill gt1 series 2x 2x2 gb ram 1800 mhz
microsoft optical pro keyboard and mouse wireless
logisys clear case with 3 led fans
mouse pad
zalman cpu fan 70mmfan with led
plus 2 year extended warranty on everything for a grand total of 2377.93 tax included
so is this the right build for me, i want to have multiple programs on all at once, and have 4 or 6 monitors, be able to surf the web without lag or freeze, play rear time strategy games, and turn based ©åmes as well, so let me know if this baby is for me

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March 2, 2010 1:27:36 PM

No. In fact, that may be the worst build I've seen for $2,400, and completely overkill for strategy.

Here's a much better build for about the same:

CPU: i7-920 $289
Mobo: Asus P6X58D Premium $310
HSF: Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B $65. Add two 120mm fans to that, so add about $20.
RAM: Mushkin Enahnced Redline 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 6 $230 after rebate
GPU: HD 5970 $700
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
SSD: Intel 80 GB $220
Case: HAF 922 $100
PSU: OCZ Z Series 850W 80+ Gold $200
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $25
OS: Windows 7 Home 64-bit OEM $105

Total: $2,354. If you really need some of the extras (keyboard, mouse, external HDD, monitor, etc.), drop the SSD.
March 2, 2010 1:27:48 PM

You could do a lot better. Follow the sticky at the top of the page for requesting builds and I am sure everyone will have fun with this budget.
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March 2, 2010 1:29:46 PM

Sorry, but I pretty much can't recommend ANY of those parts. You should absolutely not be buying or building a system around an outdated Core 2 chip. Please edit your post to include all the information in the "How to ask for new build advice" sticky at the top of the forum and we can come up with a much better build that's optimized to your intended use and budget.

Edit: Wow, I must be typing slow today. A whole conversation went on in the four minutes it took me to reply. :) 
March 2, 2010 1:43:09 PM

If he wants 4 to 6 monitors he could crossfire one of the HD5700 series. Hell for that money you could crossfire 2 HD5970!
March 2, 2010 1:44:45 PM

ofcourse in the time it took me to type 2 lines Madadmiral already posted 2 builds....lol
March 2, 2010 2:01:25 PM

I was under the impression the games he wants to play are not very demanding and surfing the web, that isn't going to blow up any pc ..
March 2, 2010 2:05:13 PM

I wasn't suggesting that the builds wouldn't handle Eyefinity, just that the OP should read up on what's needed for it.
March 2, 2010 2:05:42 PM

Plus there is supposed to be a fix in the near future ;) 
March 2, 2010 2:15:50 PM

Oh, I have been on the other end of the stick ;) .
March 2, 2010 5:09:22 PM

how bout this build

msi 790fx
amd phenom II x4 965
4x xfx radeon hd 5750 xxx edition
4x pny optima ddr 1333 mhz 4 gb
300 gb velicoraptor
1.5 t.b. w.d. mybook
1220 waats kingwin mach 1 power supply
atx clear case w/ 3 led fans
microsoft wireless optical pro keyboard and mouse
ocz vendetta cpu cooler
lite on blueray combo
all for around 2400.00 tax included
March 2, 2010 5:21:49 PM

It's getting worse...

First, Quadfire is a terrible waste of money. You get like 7% performance gain by adding the third card and less than that for the fourth. For your $560 of GPUs, you get virtually nothing. Why not spend another $100 or so and get a 5970?

Second, you don't need 16 GB of RAM. You didn't need 8 GB. 4 GB sticks are crazy expensive too.

Third, VelociRaptors might as well be called VelociCRAPTORs. They suck.

Fourth, you don't need a 1.2kW PSU, not even for Quadfire. A 1.2kW PSU can power about 4 5970s (8 GPUs). You also picked a crappy brand.

Fifth, the best budget CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus. The best period is the Prolimatech Megahalems.

Sixth, BluRay in a PC is also a waste of money. The point of BR is to get the best viewing experience possible, which by definition not in front of a computer screen.

Here's an idea: take a look at the builds posted.
March 2, 2010 5:25:33 PM

I've hardly any experience on this board, but i know this much:

You don't need 4x 5750's. If you want really high powered video, get one 5970. If you need 4-6 monitors, get two 5870's in crossfire.
You don't need 4x4GB sticks of memory (total 16gb). 8GB DDR3 (4x2GB) would be plenty of overkill, and in reality you only need 4GB (2x2GB).
Don't get a velociraptor. The VR's are getting beaten by the Samsung F3's, with more storage, less noise, lower price.
You don't need a 1200 watt power supply. Go with a 850 watt for overkill.

Do your research on *current* builds.
March 2, 2010 5:31:49 PM

LOL Arabmode stop posting builds! Just send MadAdmiral $2500 and he will build you a badass computer and ship it to you haha
March 2, 2010 7:45:08 PM

how bout an evga 790i sli ftw
intel core 2 quad 9505 2.83
3x bfg tech gts 250 o.c.
4x corsiar xms pc12800 ddr3 ram 1600 mhz
samsung spinpoint f3 1 terabyte
x4 ultra 850 watt

i changed my price range on a pc build, im going for a cheaper buy now, so hows this build its costing around $1800.00 tax included
now i had to of dont this right by this time now
March 2, 2010 7:46:56 PM

done*
March 2, 2010 7:54:38 PM

HAVE YOU BEEN READING ANYTHING HERE?

First, the LGA775 socket is a dead socket. You will not see any more CPUs for it.

Second, I wouldn't touch a nVidia card right now. For that price, you can get the better HD 5770s.

Third, Crossfiring right away is stupid. Trifiring out of the box is especially retarded. I'm having serious doubts about your ability to read and understand right now.

Fourth, it's 4x how much RAM? If it 4x2 GB, it's overkill. If it's 4x1 GB is stupid. Stick to a 2x2 GB kit.

Fifth, Corsair is overpriced. You'll get faster sticks for less by getting the G.Skill Ripjaws I posted earlier (and below).

If you're budget is $1,800:

CPU: i5-750 $195
Mobo: Asus P7P55D-E Pro $190
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $115
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
GPU: HD 5970 $700
PSU: Corsair 850W $140 after rebate
Case: HAF 922 $100
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $24

Total: $1,554.
March 2, 2010 7:55:19 PM

The latest build isn't much better than your previous builds. You've been given far superior builds by MadAdmiral. Is there a reason you're dead set on using a sub-par Nforce motherboard, outdated CPU, and poor performing Nvidia GPU's?
March 2, 2010 7:59:27 PM

You need to follow the advice of all of the people above. Read other builds to get an idea of what you should build.
Your price range has gone from $2400 to $1800, which means a very different build. Even then, $1800 is spending a lot of money (too much) for a computer for strategy games.
You are still listing parts that are simply outdated, and in some cases poor quality.

To start with: you should not be buying anything based on Core 2 Quad technology at this time. It is outdated and expensive. A Core i5 750 will run as well or better and is cheaper by $40. A motherboard that will run that processor will be on the same price as any Core 2 Quad motherboard.
Running 3 video cards in SLI will not benefit you. Consider 2 5770's, that way you can run up to 6 monitors.
And as MadAdmiral had said earlier, pick a power supply from the following brands: Antec, Corsair, Seasonic or Silverstone.

Do yourself a favor and do the following:
1. Figure out what you really want to do with this computer. 4-6 monitors hardly seems necessary to play turn-based strategy games. Multiple video cards is a severe waste of money for turn-based strategy.
2. Figure out how much you actually want to spend on this system.
3. Read through several CURRENT articles and forum posts on systems in your price range.
After that, come back and post about a possible build. You've been given excellent build lists already, and you may want to consider following those builds now.
March 2, 2010 8:44:24 PM

pdx4life said:

1. Figure out what you really want to do with this computer. 4-6 monitors hardly seems necessary to play turn-based strategy games. Multiple video cards is a severe waste of money for turn-based strategy.


I believe the OP said he wanted to play REAR time strategy games, not turn-based. ;) 

OP - please, for the love of jebus, read all of the comments above, do a little research, figure out what you need, and go for a build with current technology, not technology that's a couple years out of date.
March 2, 2010 8:54:57 PM

how about this
p55 ftw 200
i5 670 3.46
4x super talent ddr3-1333 4 gb
4 gts 250o.c.
corsair 850 watt powersupply
2300.oo total

March 2, 2010 8:58:46 PM

MadAdmiral said:
It's getting worse...

First, Quadfire is a terrible waste of money. You get like 7% performance gain by adding the third card and less than that for the fourth. For your $560 of GPUs, you get virtually nothing. Why not spend another $100 or so and get a 5970?

Second, you don't need 16 GB of RAM. You didn't need 8 GB. 4 GB sticks are crazy expensive too.

Third, VelociRaptors might as well be called VelociCRAPTORs. They suck.

Fourth, you don't need a 1.2kW PSU, not even for Quadfire. A 1.2kW PSU can power about 4 5970s (8 GPUs). You also picked a crappy brand.

Fifth, the best budget CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus. The best period is the Prolimatech Megahalems.

Sixth, BluRay in a PC is also a waste of money. The point of BR is to get the best viewing experience possible, which by definition not in front of a computer screen.

Here's an idea: take a look at the builds posted.



Hey man not so hard on the velociraptors... i bought one before the spinpoint came out! they were good then when i bought it... just not anymore(poor old equiptment)
March 2, 2010 9:18:48 PM

@darkjuggalo: That was then, this is now.

@arabmode: Seriously, you must be brain dead. How many times do we have to say that using Quadfire/Trifire/Crossfire at the beginning of the build is retarded?

While it's getting better on the CPU side, it's still horrible. That's a dual core at the cost of the best gaming quad core.

The best builds at the various budgets have already been posted. I guarantee that you can't do better than those. I don't see why you keep coming back with bad builds. If you can't use Newegg, just go to any parts supplier and get what's on the shopping list.

Here are the best three options:

$2,400 budget:

CPU: i7-920 $289
Mobo: Asus P6X58D Premium $310
HSF: Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B $65. Add two 120mm fans to that, so add about $20.
RAM: Mushkin Enahnced Redline 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 6 $230 after rebate
GPU: HD 5970 $700
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
SSD: Intel 80 GB $220
Case: HAF 922 $100
PSU: OCZ Z Series 850W 80+ Gold $200
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $24
OS: Windows 7 Home 64-bit OEM $105

Total: $2,353

$1,700 budget:


CPU: i5-750 $195
Mobo: Asus P7P55D-E Pro $190
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $115
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
GPU: HD 5970 $700
PSU: Corsair 850W $140 after rebate
Case: HAF 922 $100
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $24
OS: Windows 7 Home 64-bit OEM $105

Total: $1,659

Based on stated uses:

CPU: i5-750 $195
Mobo: Asus P7P55D-E Pro $190
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $115
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
GPU: HD 5770 $150 after rebate
Case/PSU: Antec 300 Illusion and Earthwatts 650W $130
HSF: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus $35
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $24
OS: Windows 7 Home 64-Bit OEM $105

Total: $1,034

Take any of the three, and have a great PC.
March 2, 2010 9:21:21 PM

coldsleep said:
I believe the OP said he wanted to play REAR time strategy games, not turn-based. ;) 




coldsleep - My bad. Rear time strategy still doesn't require 3 video cards. :D 

OP - You still don't need 16GB of RAM. 4x4GB is stupidly expensive. Get 2x2GB, that is: 4GB TOTAL like everyone has told you before. And again, go do your full research!
March 2, 2010 9:40:11 PM

Rear time? REAL time you mean?


@ madadmiral i know i just like to think i still have good stuff even if it is old news lol. You have some excellent advice to by the way!


@arabmode Do you know how to take advice? because seriously i could blow a hole in my head and still build a better system then what you keep coming up with.
NVidia is not the best choice for a GPU right now. Nothing against them but for the cost of an NVidia card you can get almost twice the performance from an ATI card..
and seriously what the hell would you do with 16 gigs of ram? Dude i have 4gigs and i can encode a 4 hour long movie in 15 minutes! Not to mention i play serious games like Crysis just to test my rig and i have not even utilized the 4 gigs i have!
And all you are doing is Real time stratagey and running multiple monitors in Eye Finity? Seriously! And what makes you think you need so much power? get a 850w power supply and it will still be overkill! Listen To MadAdmiral! Stop being stubern! you asked for advice so the least you can do is listen to it!
March 2, 2010 9:57:19 PM

This has got to be a joke topic...
March 2, 2010 10:14:26 PM

this guy HAS to be a troll
March 3, 2010 1:48:30 PM

evga x58 classified 4 way $440
bfg tech gtx 295 ocfu $400
4 gb ram stick ONE $ 130
silverstone power supply 1600 watts $400
intel core i7 2.8 w/2 year warranty $400
i want an upgradeable pc, thats the reason i bought such a big powersupply so i can add three more gtx 295 ocfu's
later, and everything costs around 2400 with a wireless keyboard and mouse, spinpoint harddrive 1 terabyte,
clear clase with 3 led fans, thermal lake cpu cooler, mousepad, and 2 year warranty on the keyboard and mouse too
March 3, 2010 1:56:58 PM

Seriously, are you "special"? That would explain the cheesy quote...

Wasting money the a board that doesn't give you much.

Wasting money on the RAM. 4 GB sticks are retarded right now, and you would need three sticks for the triple channel board.

nVidia is getting destroyed right now. For that price, you could have the best single GPU card out there (HD 5870).

1600W is literally enough power to make 3 full builds. Or power 8 single GPU cards.

Go with one of the builds I posted above. YOU CANNOT GET A BETTER BUILD. Everything single one of them allows you to upgrade them so that they can be used for well over 5 years. After that, technology will be so advanced that it would be pointless to upgrade instead of building a new one.

Or just do whatever you want. A fool and their money will soon be parted.
March 3, 2010 2:01:39 PM

I guess we're still talking to a wall. Just get whatever you want since you don't seem to be taking any of the advice offered so far. Nvidia GPU's don't make any sense right now. You also don't want a single 4GB stick of RAM since it will run in single-channel mode. You should get a 3x2GB setup to take advantage of the triple-channel RAM controller on the i7 930.

By the way, what "intel core i7 2.8" CPU are you getting? There are currently two chips that match that description, the i7 930 and the i7 860. You have to make sure to get the i7 930 since the 860 uses a completely different socket.
March 3, 2010 2:56:23 PM

I can't believe you guys are still trying! Isn't it easier to give up instead of calling someone retarded?

Arabmode your last build was great! I'd just change one or two things!
I totally agree with you adding 4 5750! (that's going to look great)
Add 16 GB of memory! ( Better have too much then too little, right? )
Actually when I think about it, you might want to stick with the CPU + Motherboard you first started off with. ( Everyone's wet dream is an Uber Intel Extreme Processor!)
Add a couple of velociraptor's ( just to make your PC sound like it cracking codes as soon as you startup! )

And keep it up not listening to anyone's advice, they're probably just trying to pull your leg instead of helping you! Trust in you own judgment! And never come back ;) 
March 3, 2010 3:10:12 PM

Don't forget to buy two of everything in case something fails.
March 3, 2010 4:15:18 PM

this guy is freakin brain dead....
March 3, 2010 4:25:34 PM

He is definitely a troll TheLastWang. He doesn't even acknowledge MadAdmiral's input; rather posting builds he knows are not feasible (and the 6 monitors for RTS games and web surfing was a obvious sign of a troll).
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