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a b V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 8:09:22 PM

Okay so I posted before about getting a P55 motherboard. Upon further examination of pc specialist, I can get a X58 PC for cheaper :s . I've looked into it and X58 seems to be better, however it's cheaper and uses a different socket. Can someone advise me on what to get please? I'm looking at a 3.06ghz i7 and a geforce 460gtx for info on what I'll be running. Large amount of ram too. Like 8 to 12GB.

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a b V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:00:26 PM

What does the computer come with and what do you have to provide yourself? Are you talking a bare-bones setup, a full-PC, or when you say "X58 PC for cheaper", does that just mean the motherboard. If you are looking at specific motherboards, model numbers might help. With specific motherboards, you also have to consider other aspects, such as do the boards have USB3.0, SATA6.0, Firewire, eSATA, etc...

The difference between X58 and P55 is the bandwidth available. X58 has more than twice the number of PCIe channels available and uses triple-channel memory rather than dual-channel.

Here is the issue though: If you are using only a single 460GTX, you don't need the extra PCIe bandwidth offered on the X58. Also, if you want to use the triple-channel memory bandwidth, you have to buy 3-dimms of memory (50% more expensive then 2-dimms typically).

Also, the X58 only supports the Core-i7 900 series of processors, which can be a little more expensive than the Core-i5 700 and Core-i7-800 series supported by the P55.

However, if you can get a X58 board and Core i7 9xx processor for cheaper than a P55, it might be worth it. However, I'm almost certain you can find an even cheaper P55 and Core i5 7xx processor with the same specs.
a c 717 V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:01:40 PM

The X58 is a better platform, but everything you saying is P55 {CPU and RAM X4 slots}. So I am going off the X58 and giving you some of my recommendations.

MOBO: ASUS P6X58D-E http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: i7 950 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: {Tri Channel is most efficient over Hexa Channel; I leave that choice to your budget}
{1 set = 12GB} CORSAIR DOMINATOR 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CMP12GX3M3A1600C9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
{2 Sets = 12GB} CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) TR3X6G1600C8D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Tested Corsair {full list} http://www.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.asp...

PSU: 1 Rail + Japanese Capacitors {e.g. Corsair} The HX is ~$30 more for modular connections.
2X GTX 460 850 W {HX850W or TX850W/-$30 non monular -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1X GTX 460 - 650W or 750W {750TX or HX650W} http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: {GTX 46X Series}
GTX 460 -
ZOTAC ZT-40404-10P GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB {lifetime warranty} http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Shader Clock: 1526MHz / Core Clock: 763MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GTX 465 -
EVGA 01G-P3-1467-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) Superclocked 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Shader Clock: 1250MHz / Core Clock: 625MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:17:31 PM

Cheers for your help. For more information, I'm using pc specialist. The exact processor is an Intel Core i7 950. The ram is most likely 6GB in 3 2GB modules at 1333mhz. The card is the 1GB 460GTX. The motherboards available for this are, P6X58D-E, P6X58D Premium or the Rampage III. I can't really afford the second 2. Otherwise it's all good. Oh and a 600W PSU.
a b V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:29:44 PM

If you can get that machine for cheaper than a P55 system, you might as well. X58 is more capable. 6GB should be plenty of RAM (and I assume you'll be using a corresponding 64-bit OS).
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:35:04 PM

64 bit OS indeed. It's for use with Solidworks and simulations. My lecturers have told me the card I chose will be more than capable of running it.
a c 717 V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:35:16 PM

The ASUS P6X58D-E is an extremely solid MOBO, unless you want to OC above 4.2+GHz, and then you'd need a 750W PSU. Please don't make the cheap choice of multi-rail non-Japanese PSU; about 5 peple a day regret it when their MOBO or GPU suffers from dirty power/spikes and their replacing their $200+ MOBO and $200+ GPU over a $30 upgrade PSU. What PSU did you have in mind?

The 1333 MHz will cost you at least 4-8+ FPS off your GTX 460.

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) TR3X6G1333C9 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What's "I'm using pc specialist" is it an Application - Person - Company??
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:44:44 PM

It's a company. And you suggest higher mhz ram? Looking into the psu now.
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:47:43 PM

It appears to be unbranded. However there are Corsair options.
a c 717 V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 9:58:50 PM

Then Corsair.

Use this site to determine size and options {if you 'think' you'll add a second GPU then refer to my recommendations. Also, remember if you plan to OC to factor that in...
Power Supply Search
http://www.corsair.com/
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 10:01:59 PM

The GPU would be a quadro and I'm not sure if I can run them together with separate monitors. and thanks.
a c 717 V Motherboard
October 21, 2010 10:17:12 PM

I've built plenty of systems with Quadro & Tesla - all of them were Workstations with Xeon, and it depends upon which Quadro you choose {Dual Monitors}. e.g. Quadro FX 3700
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