I have been stuck playing some of my games (see below) on my P4 3.2GHz HT laptop with a mobility 9600 gfx. Well needless to say my laptop died on me and i need a replacement. I have always wanted to build my own system and I now have a good excuse.
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: mid march
BUDGET RANGE: $400 Before Rebates
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Light gaming (Some 2D games like Heroes 3 and Star wars rebellion to Company of Heroes and X3 reunion), surfing the web, word processing
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com
PARTS PREFERENCES: I would like to use an AMD and ATI
MONITOR RESOLUTION: Current monitor is 1920x1200, but gaming would be at a lower setting
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Will hold off on gfx card for now, so I need something with integrated gfx.
Have a look at a Phenom II X2 or X3 chip and go for a 785G board. They have Radeon HD 4200 integrated graphics which are pretty good for an integrated solution. Also, if you're overclocking, a Black Edition Phenom II chip will make your life a lot easier
The cpu i had thought of was the AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz triple core. The motherboard combo from newegg is a 785g. I should have clarified that the overclocking would only be minor, 3.2 to 3.4, just to play around with it since I have never overclocked anything before.
A $400 budget can be tough, but since you're not including a GPU at first, should be possible.
Antec Earthwatts PSUs are good, but even up to a HD5770 can be run on the 380W version. You'll want to buy your RAM sticks in pairs, so you get dual channel access. Since DDR2 is becoming more expensive, consider DDR3 instead. That will mean changing your motherboard too. Since you'll be starting with integrated graphics, the HD3300 IGP on a 790G board will be a little better than the HD4200 on 785G. Here is a sample build, that comes in under budget (but not counting extortion and shipping):
ASRock M3A790GXH/128M AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
$114.99 -$20.00 Instant $94.99
I've had good results with ASRock mobos. HD3300 > HD4200.
Rosewill R230-P-BK Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$34.99 -$5.00 Instant $29.99
I've been satisfied with every cheap Rosewill case I ever bought. They come with a 120mm rear fan.
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power ... - Retail
Model #:EA-380D Green
$59.99 -$15.00 Instant $44.99
Depending on the video card you may eventually buy, consider upgrading this to the 500W version. Often there are deals on one or another of the Earthwatts models. Check at time of purchase.
AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor Model ADX435WFGIBOX - Retail
Should be hard to beat for the price. Core unlocking is not a done deal, and the 550BE costs more.
Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT12864BA1339 - Retail
Upgrade to 4GB (2x2GB) if there is wiggle room in your budget.
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3320418AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
The Samsung Spinpoint F3 is supposed to be a little faster, but has not always been available lately. This drive is a little cheaper, and performs well too. Do not get the 7200.11 version of this drive due to firmware issues.
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
Meh. One optical drive is much like any other.
Doesn't include extortion (if applicable) and shipping, but will buy a good starting point. If there is wiggle room in your budget, consider getting a HD4650 or even a HD4670. The former will be $50-$55; the latter $70-$80. Most HD4650s have DDR2, but the Biostar version has the much faster DDR3 on it, for about the same price. I installed one in my wife's PC this weekend, and it was painless.
All this for $440, so a little more than I wanted but this is acceptable.
However I would still like to know what a good gfx card would be to get later. I want a card that will run: Company of heroes, C&C 3, and X3 reunion maxed out, or close too, but not have any conflicts with my older 2D games? Would a 4850 or 4860 be a good choice or too much?
Just found this PSU
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
combo deal with a CM 690. It's $10 more but has mail in rebates, and it's modular
OCZ isn't crappy, but is not in the same league with Antec, Corsair, or Seasonic.
You've chosen a more expensive dual core (that may or may not unlock) over the X3; three cores have been shown to be notably better than two. The articles are on Tom's.
You may not care, but note that the Biostar board cannot do Crossfire, as it only has one PCIE x16 slot.
Will a crossfire setup conflict with my older games: Heroes 3, Diablo 2, starcraft exc. If not I would go with a board that is crossfire capable. My aforementioned posts are just ideas, i'm not set with anything yet. Just hoped to get some responses.
I would not expect any problems any more. Still, you would not start out with Crossfire, and might never need it. It is just an option to consider, or you may end up wanting the other PCIE x16 slot for something else, like a RAID card, USB 3.0 expansion, or who knows what.