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[Solved] I5 vs AMD build (around $1k), any suggestions welcome

Forum Systems : New Build [Solved] I5 vs AMD build (around $1k), any suggestions welcome

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Hi, this is my first post and also first time attempting to build my own PC.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: within a week to a month

BUDGET RANGE: 800 to 1000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Movies, Gaming (mostly WoW), Web-browsing and College work

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com

PARTS PREFERENCES:

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I am a casual gamer so I'm not looking for the build for best gaming performance (but if possible, I would like the system to still be able to play future games even in medicore quality)... I would like the system to be ablle to handle multi-tasking. Also, I wouldnt mind spending extra $100 for a decent looking case =)


So far.. this is what I have come with. Please, feel free to let me know what you guys think.
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I5 build - need suggestion on case and PSU


Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115215

MSI P55-GD65 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130239

Cooler Master Intel Core i5 compatible Hyper TX3 Socket 775/1156/AMD 130W 92mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103064

CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145260

SAPPHIRE 100286L Radeon HD 4860 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102866

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136284
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AMD build - case and PSU suggestion

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103674

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131402

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227320

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150447

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136284

MSI 24X DVD Burner Black SATA Model DH-24AAS-17 R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827100058

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+1 on the intel build. but with the fallowing setup:

CPU & Mobo: 1. Intel BX80605I5750: $199.99
2. ASUS P7P55D PRO: $169.99
Combo Discount: -$20.00
Combo Price: $349.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.350115

Heat-sink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
$34.99
$7.56 Std. Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
$114.99
Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231278

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770
Original Price: $179.99
You Save: $20.00
$159.99
($149.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate Card )
Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102858

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$89.99
Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185

Case & PSU: 1. Antec Three Hundred Illusi: $69.99
2. Antec EA650: $74.99
Combo Discount: -$20.00
Combo Price: $124.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.345228

DVD: SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM
$19.99
$1.99 Std. Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151192

Grand Total: $913.93

------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

^ That is a good build...but IMO going with the AMD is also not a bad choice...You can save even more with the AMD build...
890GX - SATA 6GB/s and USB 3.0 + X4 955
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.353112

Free HDD Dock with that Samsung
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.345592

Graphics card - XFX if you want good warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.320995

RAM options...Dont get that OCZ...it operates at 1.7V - Greater than 1.65V maximum allowed for Intel CPUs...though they wont matter much for the AMD CPUs...These are better...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145263
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231303

Other favourites for the case...
HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119197

Lian-Lis...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112239
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112238

Reply to gkay09

I just built an i5 750 rig with ati5770 and i'm very happy with it.
Runs Bioshock1&2, Dragon age, Mass effect2, COD:MW2 and WoW maxed with no problem

------------------------------ I5 750 @ 3.8GHZ
4GB DDR3 1600
P55-UD3L
XFX HD5770
Reply to podxvost

Thanks snakej and gkay09 for your help... I decided to go for I5 set up a may purchase this tonight.... what do you guys think?

I added up the following and it came out to 754... am i missing something here??? besides an audio-card,
=============================================
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223C
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151192

$19.99

select item 2 quantity of item 2


Nippon Labs Delux 3.5" Internal All In One Card Reader/Writer with USB2.0 & eSATA Ports Model ICR-BB - Retail
Item #: N82E16820816001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820816001

-$5.00 Instant


$24.99
$19.99

select item 3 quantity of item 3


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231278



$114.99

select item 4 quantity of item 4


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065


$34.99

select item 5 quantity of item 5

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.345228

-$25.00 Instant
-$20.00 Combo


$169.98
$124.98


select item 6 quantity of item 6

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
Thermaltake BlacX N0028USU External Hard Drive SATA Enclosure Docking Station 2.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.345592

-$36.99 Combo


$126.98
$89.99

select item 7 quantity of item 7

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750
ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.350115


$369.98
$349.98

Subtotal: $754.91

Reply to nimbuz
------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej




Thanks... how did I miss that lol.

So i guess including that, the total comes out to $914.90...

Reply to nimbuz

Looks like a good build! I'm ordering parts right now for mine.

I like the Antec 902 and it's got a good combo with the TP-750 right now

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.345273

After MIR it's only $50 more than ur current combo.


Message edited by shaw24 on 03-04-2010 at 04:41:41 PM
Reply to shaw24

Yeah. I was planning in getting that too, looks alot much nicer and with the side view. Haven't purchased mines yet but wondering if the case would be easier to install the parts in, being that its my first time doing it.

Reply to nimbuz

With the games you are playing the i5-750 does not look bad. However if you play anymore stressful games and have a resolution greater then 19xx then the 5770 is not going to cut it.

for 1K you could probably get a 5870 if you went amd...

Reply to osu43130

osu43130 wrote :

With the games you are playing the i5-750 does not look bad. However if you play anymore stressful games and have a resolution greater then 19xx then the 5770 is not going to cut it.

for 1K you could probably get a 5870 if you went amd...



Do you have any suggestions on an alternate GPU for the intel build? I don't mind spending more to overcome the resolution issue if thats the case.

Reply to nimbuz

Uh, are you sure you need a 1k$ build for WOW? Maybe spend some money on payign of the rent or on displays?

Reply to builderbobftw

go amd and get a better gpu for the long run

Reply to wiinippongamer

Yeh, but i'm thinking he could go a decent AM3 for 750$, and svae the money. If he wanrts to upgrade later, he can do HExcore or Xfire/Trifire/Quadfire 5770s.

Reply to builderbobftw

why would he do that,if he has the budget why not, why build a cripple pc now, with an ok cpu and a super GPU, when he can get i5 and 5770 which is plenty for what he needs, and then down the road drop a 5970 when cheaper..

------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

strange, you have amd and are favoring intel, even though you know it's true amd gives the best price/penformance

Reply to wiinippongamer

lmao, its not about been a fan boy, facts are fact , and thats a fact, its not what i like or you think its cool, its what the op needs, he wants to do do casual gaming 5770, for anything else he does on the pc he is gonna see more of a benefit with an i5750 period.

------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

It is quite amazing how many times i came across such topics .... AMD vs Intel. Personally I own a AMD PII 965 BE. I checked the benchmarks for weeks before buying it and I'd rather have the highest end mobo+CPU at 380 bucks than a mid range at 500. Which is what would happened if you get the i5-750. As for the benefit, he's not gonna see squat with intel. I have two PC, one in France and one in Hong Kong (i am an expat). The one in France has got a i7-920 with an ASUS mobo, the one in Hong Kong is in my sig. I often play DIRT 2 and Mass effect 2 at max settings on both rigs and I don't notice any difference .... Sure, I get 61FPS on the intel rig instead of 59FPS on the AMD rig .... Holy c**p AMD IS BAD, GET INTEL, HUGE BENEFITS .... what a load of bull.

Anyway, I would suggest that you go with AMD. It is cheaper and holds its own against ANY other CPU out there. But let's be fair, INTEL definitely kicks butts with their i7 but it seems way too expensive for what it is.

But that's just me. I am not looking at benchmarks so thoroughly any more. All I want is a rig that can play any games at max setting smoothly and you would definitely get this kind of PC with both solutions. But you wouldn't notice any differences whatsoever, except by using advanced benchmarks tools. But who cares really??

I would opt for another graphic card though. The 5770 just won't cut it.

------------------------------ http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/1011176.png
2 X SAPPHIRE HD5850 CROSSFIRE - THERMALTAKE ARMOR+ - KOOLANCE LIQUID COOLING - ASUS 1080p 24'
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/sigs/sigimage.php?un=yannickhk&t=37726
Reply to yannickhk

yannickhk wrote :

It is quite amazing how many times i came across such topics .... AMD vs Intel. Personally I own a AMD PII 965 BE. I checked the benchmarks for weeks before buying it and I'd rather have the highest end mobo+CPU at 380 bucks than a mid range at 500. Which is what would happened if you get the i5-750. As for the benefit, he's not gonna see squat with intel. I have two PC, one in France and one in Hong Kong (i am an expat). The one in France has got a i7-920 with an ASUS mobo, the one in Hong Kong is in my sig. I often play DIRT 2 and Mass effect 2 at max settings on both rigs and I don't notice any difference .... Sure, I get 61FPS on the intel rig instead of 59FPS on the AMD rig .... Holy c**p AMD IS BAD, GET INTEL, HUGE BENEFITS .... what a load of bull.

Anyway, I would suggest that you go with AMD. It is cheaper and holds its own against ANY other CPU out there. But let's be fair, INTEL definitely kicks butts with their i7 but it seems way too expensive for what it is.

But that's just me. I am not looking at benchmarks so thoroughly any more. All I want is a rig that can play any games at max setting smoothly and you would definitely get this kind of PC with both solutions. But you wouldn't notice any differences whatsoever, except by using advanced benchmarks tools. But who cares really??

I would opt for another graphic card though. The 5770 just won't cut it.



dude thanks for your opinion. BUT READ!


SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Movies, Gaming (mostly WoW), Web-browsing and College work

he doesnt want gaming as prime factor, he wants something that muiltitask better then most.

and it happens to be that the i5 does this things better than AMD 945, 955, 965.

we're not fan boys discussing who's or what's better, we know this things, its not about, what I, you or anyone else think, its what the OP needs.

He is settle please stop commenting and trying to confuse someone who is done.

Casual gaming, as matter fact proly only wow


Message edited by Snakej on 03-05-2010 at 04:21:39 AM
------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

OOps, my bad.

I read gaming so I deduced that he wanted a gaming rig.

------------------------------ http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/1011176.png
2 X SAPPHIRE HD5850 CROSSFIRE - THERMALTAKE ARMOR+ - KOOLANCE LIQUID COOLING - ASUS 1080p 24'
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/sigs/sigimage.php?un=yannickhk&t=37726
Reply to yannickhk

its ok, just more attention next time, because the op is in the learning process and what might make total sense to us, to him is juts blahaha, and can confuse him.

------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

Well going Intel or AMD is OP's personal preference...
Going with either is not going to hurt...Though the AMD at a lower price point is better...but for his usage, that i5 will last him easy 2+ years...and that too with a graphics upgrade, am sure even more...

@nimbuz stick with that build...it is powerful enough for what you want to do...
And what is your monitor's resolution ?

Reply to gkay09

My monitor is 23 inches with resolution of 1920 x 1080...

Sorry guys, didnt mean to bring up Intel vs AMD discussion... But this has been a learning experience and I see your points. I will keep the I5 build since it fits more what I need. I will crossfire later, when its necessary.

Also, I updated the PSU with combo shaw24 mentioned.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 63938&SID=

Again, thanks for all the help. I appreciate it.

Reply to nimbuz
Best answer

That combo is good...
But I like these cases better as the HDD cage faces sidewards, which make the HDD access very easy...And also because of this, there is more space between the graphic cards and the HDD cage...
These are very high quality ones with very good airflow...
HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119197
Lian-Li K62
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112239

And as for the PSU, you can still stick with that PSU in the combo and also it has $20 discount if bought before 10th...
$20 off w/ promo code EMCYPYR26, ends 3/10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371025

Reply to gkay09

gkay09 wrote :

That combo is good...
But I like these cases better as the HDD cage faces sidewards, which make the HDD access very easy...And also because of this, there is more space between the graphic cards and the HDD cage...
These are very high quality ones with very good airflow...
HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119197
Lian-Li K62
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112239

And as for the PSU, you can still stick with that PSU in the combo and also it has $20 discount if bought before 10th...
$20 off w/ promo code EMCYPYR26, ends 3/10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371025




Lian-Li K62
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112239

I actually like this one alot... design and it seems easy to set up... too bad its plastic and not aluminum. =/

Reply to nimbuz

^ Its Steel with Plastic for front panels and not fully plastic if that is your concern...Similar to the 902 and other cases...

Reply to gkay09

Don't want to beat a dead horse but IMO it really doesn't matter if the OP takes the i5-750 or the AMD build.

Technically the AMD would probably be better due to Future proofing since the 1156 is a dead socket and the AM3 boards should support the new six core chips.

The 890 chipset is out which is supposed to be built for the new six core AMD which in the long run might be a better choice.

As far as GPU since OP is only playing wow and doesn't really have the urge to play higher end games the 5770 might be the best current choice and upgrade to a more powerful GPU or Xfire later, on an AMD.

And for what the original poster put as his needs there is nothing demanding about it so going Intel really has no benefit at all. The quad cores from AMD will do noticeably as good as intel in everything the op needs. Depending on what college work he/she does.

Again just my 2 cents trying to save the OP a few bucks and leave them with more of an upgrade path later.

Reply to osu43130

osu43130 wrote :

Don't want to beat a dead horse but IMO it really doesn't matter if the OP takes the i5-750 or the AMD build.

Technically the AMD would probably be better due to Future proofing since the 1156 is a dead socket and the AM3 boards should support the new six core chips.

The 890 chipset is out which is supposed to be built for the new six core AMD which in the long run might be a better choice.

As far as GPU since OP is only playing wow and doesn't really have the urge to play higher end games the 5770 might be the best current choice and upgrade to a more powerful GPU or Xfire later, on an AMD.

And for what the original poster put as his needs there is nothing demanding about it so going Intel really has no benefit at all. The quad cores from AMD will do noticeably as good as intel in everything the op needs. Depending on what college work he/she does.

Again just my 2 cents trying to save the OP a few bucks and leave them with more of an upgrade path later.




Just wondering, would u be kind to show me a build I can compare to? Maybe its because I'm a newbie but I have came up with builds using the options the thread has suggested but still come up to around 900$ even with HD5770.

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103674

890GX - SATA 6GB/s and USB 3.0 + X4 955
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.353112

HD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.345592

XFX-HD5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.320995

Lian-Li K62
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112239

PSU-750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371025

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231303

Cooler Master Intel Core i5 compatible Hyper TX3 Socket 775/1156/AMD 130W 92mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103064

Reply to nimbuz

Again you don't save to much but you are weighing the option to upgrade the CPU or taking better perfoming CPu now.

You save about 30 or 40 bucks.

GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 $139

and AMD 955 = $160.

With everything that snake suggested above.

Basically I would Suggest every part that Snake has in his build above but switch it for the AMD and 890 mobo if you wanted an AMD build. So basically it is 30-40 bucks cheaper going AMD.

Too bad you did not build this last week or so because you could have saved a bunch...lol NewEgg Combos pretty much suck right now.


Message edited by osu43130 on 03-05-2010 at 03:54:55 PM
Reply to osu43130

I see now... thanks for clarifying. I will do more research regarding the chipsets before pulling trigger.


Message edited by nimbuz on 03-05-2010 at 04:07:04 PM
Reply to nimbuz

I think either way you will be happy because both suggested systems are are great buys it all comes down to personal preference and what your future plans are for the computer.

Reply to osu43130

amd has a longer upgrade path, on their site you can see their roadway for the next 2 years, on 2012 amd will still use am3 as their primary socket, and there are six-cores coming soon around june, which are officially going to be am3, so you'll be able to upgrade it anytime you want while keeping the same motherboard and memory.

intel, on the other way, releases a new socket each time they launch a cpu, so if you wanna upgrade later, you'll also have to swap your mobo and probably the memories


Message edited by wiinippongamer on 03-05-2010 at 07:43:01 PM
Reply to wiinippongamer

if noone has mentioned it yet it would be a good idea to pick up a motherboard that runs at 8x8x or 16x16x , so you could upgrade to SLI in the future instead of buying a whole new GPU.

Reply to da_truest_moo

for AM3 boards get a 16x16x. The board I linked is 16x16x.

Reply to osu43130

if you dont need to buy now, and decide to go AMD then wait till April for the 890FX motherboards http://news.softpedia.com/news/MSI [...] 9442.shtml , don't get top of the line 965, get the 925 or 945 ( 925 IMO), and a 5870, and upgrade to a six-core Thuban processor which we expect by second quarter of next year, that way you will have the high-end Leo platform, with minors upgrades by them, +1 on the Lian Li k62 case.

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Message edited by Snakej on 03-06-2010 at 01:18:08 AM
------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

well he is gonna have a pc by the end of the month thats when the 890FX get release, i told him to buy everything including a 5870 with a cheaper cpu like the 925 until the six core get release, thats what im doing , except that i went with a cheaper graphics card ( 4890 ) and a 790FX and also with a more expensive cpu (955), i will be buying a 5870, a six core and the lian li k62 case to upgrade next year.


Message edited by Snakej on 03-06-2010 at 02:56:30 AM
------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

Uh, we don't know how hex core, wether that be Intel or AMD is gonna do. I think it will blow the roof of in Synthetics, and show zero impovements in Crysis.

Reply to builderbobftw

well you will agree with me that, future games are gonna see more benefits out the CPU, and what are you doing playing crysis a year from now, without mentioning the games that already benefit from more then 2 cores processors like GTAIV.

------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

gta4 uses 2-3% of the third core because of it's poor optimization, most games right now use 100% of the first core and ussually less than 50% of the second one

Reply to wiinippongamer

wiinippongamer wrote :

gta4 uses 2-3% of the third core because of it's poor optimization, most games right now use 100% of the first core and ussually less than 50% of the second one



oh really, mind showing me where you read that.

here is to back up my opinion http://futuremark.yougamers.com/fo [...] t=quadcore

and even if the game is consider as a dual core, its save to assume that you at least need an X3 to run properly your apps other than the game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x85iZISsZP4

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Message edited by Snakej on 03-06-2010 at 03:48:40 PM
------------------------------ Asrock Z68 Gen.3
Intel i5 2500k 4.6@1.36V
Antec Khuler 620
8GB Crucial sport DDR3 1600 @9.9.9.24.2t 1.5v
Reply to Snakej

yeh, GTZ IV loves cores, the system requirments are a C2Q.

Reply to builderbobftw

Snakej wrote :

if you dont need to buy now, and decide to go AMD then wait till April for the 890FX motherboards http://news.softpedia.com/news/MSI [...] 9442.shtml , don't get top of the line 965, get the 925 or 945 ( 925 IMO), and a 5870, and upgrade to a six-core Thuban processor which we expect by second quarter of next year, that way you will have the high-end Leo platform, with minors upgrades by them, +1 on the Lian Li k62 case.



How much roughly will the 890FX cost when its released? Is it worth the wait compared to the current MOBO's (my concern of new products and their reliability)?

Also,

Whats the difference between these two MOBO...
GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 AM3 AMD 790FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD

Again, thank you guys for the suggestions...

Reply to nimbuz

The 890GX has a faster southbridge, hex core comaptibilty. Plus a onboard Radeon 4290.


Message edited by builderbobftw on 03-06-2010 at 06:09:19 PM
Reply to builderbobftw

I see.. so I am assuming it would better to get this in case I decide to upgrade for new hex cpu down the line. I was confused a bit cause the 790FX was a bit more expensive, so I thought it was a better MOBO.

Reply to nimbuz

The 790FX was the AMD high end offering of old. The 890GX is the AMD mid end offering of today.

Reply to builderbobftw

Snakej wrote :

oh really, mind showing me where you read that.




personal experience

Reply to wiinippongamer

Hey guys, I decided to go for the AMD because of AM3 as you guys suggested. Somehow, I ended up spending more than the original Intel build but I figured might as well spend a bit more and get better parts such as the 5850 instead 5770.

Will order the part tomorrow, let me know what you guys think. Also, since its my first time building.. should I order any other things (such as wires) that I may need or come across when building? Once and again, thank you guys for your help!!



LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98 - Retail
$27.99


LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$99.99


GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

$139.99



Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC
$109.95 - 20 (coupon) = 89.95$



Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
$9.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM
$114.99

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm
$34.99



XFX HD-585A-ZNDC Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) XXX Edition 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGMBOX
-$15.00 Instant
-$35.00 Combo

$499.98




SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
Thermaltake BlacX N0028USU External Hard Drive SATA Enclosure Docking Station 2.5
$89.99
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Total - 1,087.30

Reply to nimbuz

Change the memory to these...
Cheaper with same timings and speed
Corsair 4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145263

Same price with better timings...
GSkillz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231303

CPU Cooler
Sunbeam CCTF - I would have suggested CM Hyper 212+ if it was available at sub $30 as it previously was....but now it cost nearly $40+ after shipping and IMO at that price this is better...and come with a very good thermal grease too...
So cut off the AS5...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835207004

Good Luck with your build...

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