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March 5, 2010 6:28:22 AM

Hello,

For my IT class, we were asked to Build a PC for our project. So I did some research to find parts for the computer I'll need. The parts are not ordered yet, and that's the reason I'm here, to be sure that nothing is wrong with my parts. I live quite far from any decent IT stores, so I'll be buying off an International online store.

These are already in my list:

Processor:
• Intel Core i7 920 - 2.66 GHz

Motherboard:
• ASUS P6TD Deluxe

Enclosure:
• Antec Solo Black/Silver Steel

Power Supply Unit:
• Antec Signature SG850 - 850W

Random Access Memory
• Crucial CT51272BV1339 - 4GB

The problem is the graphics card - I'm trying to find a graphics card which has more than 4859 MB. I came across the "Sapphire HD 4890 Vapor-X 2GB", but I can't seem to buy it from where I get the items from. If there are any other better graphics card in excaliberpc, may you please tell me. Otherwise you can tell me which online International store I can get all the items listed above.

Thank you very much for reading this post, and I really appreciate any help given to me.

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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
March 5, 2010 12:47:33 PM

First thing I notice is that you need more than 4 GB of RAM. I'm assuming thats a kit of two 2 GB sticks. The X58 boards use triple channel RAM, so you need to be buying RAM in sets of three sticks. The typical purchase is 3x2 GB sticks.

As for GPU, you have three options if you need 2 GB of memory: GTX 290, HD 4850 X2 and HD 5970. Right now, the 5970 is the best choice for gaming.

Other than that, we really need more info to help. Take a look at the guidelines from the link in my signature. We need to have a budget, what you're using it for, where you're buying (if we need to check availability), what parts you already have and the specs on those parts.
March 5, 2010 2:54:50 PM

what is it with the more than 4859Mb requirement???

Also why don't you get i7 860 instead?
I don't understand why you need to go x58 for any purposes.
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
March 5, 2010 2:56:52 PM

You would go for the X58 if you needed a vast amount of calculations for the ability to add a 6 core CPU later. Or if you were getting the i7-930, which you should, as it's only $10 more than the 920 on Newegg...
March 5, 2010 3:01:38 PM

but given this guy only needs to build one for a project (doesnt specify the use), even an AMD system would suffice (moreover, an atom system!)

I really can't understand why hes wanting a high spec pc.
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
March 5, 2010 3:09:30 PM

I agree, but without a budget and use, we're only guessing what the OP needs...
a b B Homebuilt system
March 5, 2010 3:22:25 PM

I would imagine that there's a confusion about model numbers and actual memory on the card. No current cards have over 4 GB of memory. The closest is the 5970, at 2 GB, as MadAdmiral mentions. Getting a 2 GB card seems out of line for a class project.

Over 4859 would seem to suggest any ATI card model over 4850, which would suggest it's aimed at being a simple mainstream build. You could go with an ATI 5670 or a 5750 for relatively cheap. You could even go as low as a 5450 512 MB card for $49 (including shipping), which would seem much more reasonable for a class.

OP, rough equivalence of cards can be seen on this chart.
March 6, 2010 7:48:53 AM

It is for a project, and I plan to use it myself for playing games later on. Right now I'm stuck on my graphics card. Should I take the Sapphire HD 5850 or the Gigabyte 5850? The Sapphire is US$ 32.00 more expensive than the Gigabyte. Can anyone here tell me the difference, ie. cooling system, etc?
March 6, 2010 7:56:42 AM



That's from my friends PC, he's using a Sapphire HD 4890 Vapor-X 2GB
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
March 6, 2010 3:46:33 PM

GPU brand doesn't make any difference.

One thing to point out is that the Windows scores mean absolutely nothing. Just google some of the scores and you'll find people who are getting that GPU score with 4 year old cards.

As for a good gaming PC, I would go with the i5-750 instead of the i7-9xx. It should save you enough to get at least the HD 5870, if not the HD 5970.

So here's what I would price out:

CPU: i5-750
Mobo: Asus P7P55D-E Pro
RAM: Any 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 kit
Case: HAF 922. This is one of the best cases out there, and you should really look into it.
PSU: 750W would be enough, and the Antec Signature series is overpriced. Check out Antec's other lines, as well as Corsair, SeaSonic, Silverstone and PC Power & Cooling.

Once you've priced that out, get the biggest 5xxx series card you can afford.
March 8, 2010 2:50:46 PM

I agree with MadAdmiral.
Also dont read the gaming graphics memory crap, they provide no useful information what so ever.
Then again, what is your screen resolution?
I hope you are not going to go for a 1280X1024 for a system like that.... are you????
March 9, 2010 2:26:11 AM

I'll try to go for a screen resolution of more than 1600*1400. May I know what will go wrong if i have a 1280*1024 screen?
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
March 9, 2010 11:14:11 AM

Nothing, just you'd be spending a lot for a GPU that won't give you anything. You could save a lot of money and get a really cheap card and wouldn't see a difference.
March 9, 2010 11:24:28 AM

Ok then, what screen resolution should I use in order to see a difference with a HD5770 and HD5850?

Thank you again guys
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
March 9, 2010 12:26:45 PM

1920x1080, though you would likely see some difference at 1600x just not enough to make the price jump worth it. The 5770 would play games at 1900x at medium details, but the 5850 would play them at high details.
March 9, 2010 12:30:33 PM

Ah. Thanks! I'll just stick with the HD5850 then.
March 9, 2010 3:18:06 PM

... if you are loaded with cash... then get display port monitors....
3 of them XDDDD
March 9, 2010 10:29:03 PM

lol. 3 monitors
!