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February 22, 2010 2:25:11 PM

Which is better?
In case of performance and power comsumption..

Im planning on to buy one of the card..

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February 22, 2010 2:30:12 PM

the 4870 will be faster in most cases but lacks dx11.

the 5670 will consume less power.

i say middle ground of a 5770, best of both worlds.
a b U Graphics card
February 22, 2010 2:34:09 PM

5670 is a much less powerful than a 4870...But it also consumes much less power than a 4870...Certainly 4870 is better in terms of performance but lacks dx11...still its better than 5670..you would be able to play all the recent games with maxed out settings with a 4870
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a b U Graphics card
February 22, 2010 7:27:56 PM

The 5670 doesn't have much power behind it. If you were comparing the 5670 it would be compared to a 4700 series card. Get a 5770 if your going mid range 5 end system. They consume way less power, and offer more bang for the buck. The 4870 is a power hungry beast. The 5670 is more for non-gaming.
a c 355 U Graphics card
February 22, 2010 7:34:48 PM

The HD 5770 provides similar performance as the HD 4870, but costs more & uses less electricity.

The HD 5750 provides similar performance as the HD 4850, but costs more & uses less electricity.

The HD 5670's performance is between the HD 4670 and HD 4770; roughly 30% - 40% average performance gain (Fallout 3 gain is roughy 70%) over the HD 4670. Uses slightly more electricity than the HD 4670, but less than the HD 4770.
a b U Graphics card
February 22, 2010 8:20:46 PM

Basically, don't get the 5670 unless you have an early dual-core machine with a 375W power supply, and you're definitely planning on keeping it for three more years, and you're sure you won't be able to scrape together $200 for a decent card and PSU in the meantime.

THAT'S about the only niche where the 5670 makes sense right now.
a c 106 U Graphics card
February 22, 2010 8:41:45 PM

A radeon 4870 is much faster. Sure it can be argued that the 5670 supports three monitors at once and DX11, but that doesn't mean you can actually use those features on any recent game with that card. If Dirt2 is any indication, the 5670 is not suited for playing games in DX11 mode. As for three monitors via eyeinfinity, it ends up too high a resolution to even attempt to play any such game with that card.

Get the 4870, game, be happy.
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 22, 2010 8:50:12 PM

jaguarskx said:
The HD 5770 provides similar performance as the HD 4870, but costs more & uses less electricity.

The HD 5750 provides similar performance as the HD 4850, but costs more & uses less electricity.

The HD 5670's performance is between the HD 4670 and HD 4770; roughly 30% - 40% average performance gain (Fallout 3 gain is roughy 70%) over the HD 4670. Uses slightly more electricity than the HD 4670, but less than the HD 4770.

The HD5770 is not more expensive than the HD4870. Also the performance gap between the HD4670 and HD5670 is nowhere near that large, it is more like 20-25%.
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 22, 2010 8:54:09 PM

legacyhaze said:
Which is better?
In case of performance and power comsumption..

Im planning on to buy one of the card..

They really shouldn't be compared. The HD4870 is a high end card of the last generation while the HD5670 is a low end card of the current generation. The HD4870 is a much better card and also much less power efficient and much more expensive. If you can afford an HD4870 you should be able to get an HD5770 instead which offers similar performance to the HD4870 and also the power efficiency and DX11 of the newer cards.
a b U Graphics card
February 23, 2010 1:08:55 AM

The huge performance gap points to the 4870 in all cases, so unless your PSU can just run a 5670 & not a 4870 I would get the 4870 without a second thought.
a c 212 U Graphics card
February 23, 2010 1:32:37 AM

The 4870 is about 10% faster than a 5770 in DX9/10......the 5770 is faster than the 5670 but the two 5xxx series does DX11, albeit at low resolutions.

5770 draws 51 watts .... 4870 113 watts

At 20 hours of high intensity gaming a week......power consumption isn't really a factor

(113 - 51) x 20 hours x $0.10 x 52 weeks / (1000 watts per kw x 0.85 eff) = $7.58 per year extra for the 4870

At 1650 resolution in DX11, the 5770 works, at 1920 resolution not enough bandwidth.
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 23, 2010 1:42:30 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
at 1920 resolution not enough bandwidth.

Total nonsense. The HD5770 is a nice card for 1920x1080. Not great but still quite good.
February 23, 2010 4:58:59 AM

Ok..
My spec is Pentium 4 HT 630..
350PSU..
Window 7 32bit..
1.5gb ram..

I know its a noob pc..

ATI says that 5670 need at least 400watt PSU..

But yesterday im just browsing youtube and saw this dude playing crysis all very high setting with JUST 300watt psu!! WTH..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s73MzW4ym_4


February 23, 2010 5:40:27 AM

any ati fanboy wanna fill me in why the 5670 does not have a driver at ati's site...
http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pages/psearch.aspx
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...
and people said me saying ati can't produce good drivers is a lie well maybe it is because they can't even seem to produce a driver.
I'm sure because they use those all drivers in one kind of de-lee now like nvidia it is covered and some employee dropped the ball listing it but i still found it hilarious.
a c 355 U Graphics card
February 23, 2010 5:45:03 AM

The Pentium 4 630 is a power hog it probably sucks up at 130w of power under load.

That more than what my quad core C2Q 9450 consumes.

The guy in the Youtube video most likely has a newer computer who's CPU consumes much less power than your P4 630 CPU. Your computer is also old and generally PSU produce less power as they age. Dropping a HD 5670 will put additional stress on your 350w PSU which will cause it to dies sooner.
February 23, 2010 5:47:45 AM

With your spec, i don't think any graphics card will help your gaming performance, just grab 4650 512mb ($50 here) if u don't want to upgrade your cpu and ram.
Your system will bottleneck even with a 4650

If u ask about 4870 that's mean u have $140 of budget

I say...upgrade your cpu to (at least) E5200+2 gb ram+4670 512mb, that will cost u around $160, u can manage that if u have the extra cash from selling your old cpu n ram

That will give u better performance rather than adding a single 5670
a c 355 U Graphics card
February 23, 2010 5:55:28 AM

IzzyCraft said:
any ati fanboy wanna fill me in why the 5670 does not have a driver at ati's site...
http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pages/psearch.aspx
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...
and people said me saying ati can't produce good drivers is a lie well maybe it is because they can't even seem to produce a driver.
I'm sure because they use those all drivers in one kind of de-lee now like nvidia it is covered and some employee dropped the ball listing it but i still found it hilarious.



Because the links you provided are not for the drivers.

1st link is for product support.
2nd link is for product information.

The following link is to search for drivers:
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx


Click on the 1st link you provided, then look at the left side of your screen which highlights "AMD Support Search". If you bothered to look right above you will see "Download Graphics Drivers"; which leads to the link I provided.

Are you having too much trouble navigating a simple web page?


Before you start calling me a "fanboy" I also use nVidia cards as well like a 9600GT in my HTPC.
February 23, 2010 6:58:13 AM

Interesting they fixed it prob should have taken screen shoots but
http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/drivers.aspx
did not show 4600 there before

And
http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pages/psearch.aspx
is a way to search for drivers
and it wasn't listed there before either.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...
should show driver take a look at all the other cards they have links to their drivers on those pages

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...

lol anyways i just posted that in general just because i noticed that the 5670 wasn't listed in their drivers site must have been doing an update or something any ati fanboy lol i didn't quote you or point you out in anyway...way to be defensive.
February 23, 2010 7:10:54 AM

Quote:
5750!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

HD5750 = HD4870 + DX11 and consumes much less power!
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 23, 2010 8:36:30 AM

IzzyCraft said:
I didn't quote you or point you out in anyway...way to be defensive.

Actually you did. You specifically asked for a "fanboy" to answer your question and he answered it... now you call him defensive because you acted like a jackass, good job.
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 23, 2010 8:37:25 AM

andy5174 said:
+1

HD5750 = HD4870 + DX11 and consumes much less power!

Not quite, the HD5750 is more on par with the HD4850. You are probably thinking of the HD5770.
February 23, 2010 9:46:21 AM

Yeah, my mistake.
February 23, 2010 1:27:16 PM

If I upgrade my cpu to pentium d 950 3.4ghz and ram to 4gb.. + 400w PSU..
Will it run ati 5670?
February 23, 2010 1:41:55 PM

they will both run on the card but the main bottle neck of the system will be your CPU no matter what.

there might be a case for waiting and upgrading the CPU aswell or the GPUs will out class the CPU by quite alot.

could you stick a second hand quad core in your MB after a bios upgrade maybe?
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