Budget video card

[trez]

im looking for a budget video card to run borderlands

cpu: Pentium dual core

pcie slot

will i be able to run borderlands?

thanks!

 

[Upendra09]

a 5750 should run fine with the Pentium Dual core

 

[trez]

is there anything cheaper that would work? i need vga too

 

[jyjjy]

What exactly is your processor? "pentium dual core" can mean a lot of different things.
Before making a recommendation we need to know your resolution, specs of your power supply and budget.

 

[trez]

sorry

Intel Pentium E5300 2.60 ghz

350W power supply

windows xp

VGA monitor 1024x768

PCIe card slot

I would like something less than $100 for some decent gaming.

 

[sabot00]

That is much better than say a Pentium-D.
Yes, the high clock rate (for a Pentium) should run borderlands quite fine with say a 4670.

 

[jyjjy]

I would probably get an HD5670. It should perform very well at your resolution and is DX11 compatible;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161319
Another option is one of the low power 9800GTs. It's a bit more powerful but lacks DX11;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500113

 

[jaguarskx]

A low power 9800GT's performance is between a "full power" 9800GT and the slower 9600GT (closer to the 9600GT).

The HD 5670 is on average about 35% - 40% faster than the HD 4670 (in Fallout 3 it is almost 80% faster) which makes it faster than the 9600GT as well and should equal a low power 9800GT.

See reviews:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3720
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5670,2533-7.html

My pick is the HD 5670. As THG's benchmarks reveals, the drop in performance between DX10 and DX11 is pretty harsh.

 

[jyjjy]

The HD5670 is more like 20-25% higher than the HD4670.
There's only one game so far with any noticeable drop in performance in DX11 mode(out of 4), although I haven't seen the numbers for A vs P.

 

[jaguarskx]

The HD5670 is more like 20-25% higher than the HD4670.
There's only one game so far with any noticeable drop in performance in DX11 mode(out of 4), although I haven't seen the numbers for A vs P.

Crunching the benchmark scores states otherwise (which I did from the two reviews) in general at least a 40% increase in performance over the HD 4670. Crysis showed one of the lower performance increase of only about 34%; Fallout 3 being the highest at nearly 80%. Crunch the numbers yourself if you wanna verify.

Dirt 2 is the only DX11 benchmark, the drop in performance going from DX10 to DX11 is roughly 35% - 38%.

 

[jyjjy]

I was going based on this;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_5670_IceQ/28.html
It seems to match what all the other reviews say; Slightly more powerful than a 9600GT.
Dirt 2 is the only DX11 benchmark in that article perhaps but even if there were no others already assuming that other/future DX11 games will perform the same seems rather inappropriate.

 

[charlesbego]

At that low resolution anything above 4670 and 9600gt is a waste, u don't need directX 11 right now. I think 5670 still sucks with directX 11, wait until better directX 11 card hit the market. Better.. wait until much more directX 11 games hit the market. At that time...u will need to upgrade your cpu as well. For now 4670 or 9600gt is perfect. Both that cards are excellent up to 1280 x 1024 resolution.

At 1024 x 768 resolution...with 4670 or 9600gt...your cpu is bottleneck already, i bet u can't tell the difference if u are using 9600gt or gtx295, 4670 or 5970.

Just grab 4670 512mb now ($60 here), save your money to upgrade your monitor later, say...18.5 inch 1368 x 768 widescreen lcd ($120 here), after that your 4670 still perform excellent with that new lcd.

 

[Pershing121]

I would probably get an HD5670. It should perform very well at your resolution and is DX11 compatible;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161319
Another option is one of the low power 9800GTs. It's a bit more powerful but lacks DX11;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500113

9800 gt's arent low power, I had to replace my stock 300 watt psu and put a 450 watt in when I got mine. There are much better low power options for budget gaming on the market now.

 

[jyjjy]

There are two different versions of the 9800GT. The newer one is low power and doesn't have a power connector. It is also underclocked slightly for 600mhz to 550 but that can be fixed with software like rivatuner.

 

[jfem]

For Borderlands, I recommend that you buy the Geforce 9600GT low profile.

I think that this is the best and most powerful video card you can buy below $100 and your system with 350W power supply can handle.
Forget about the HD4670, HD5670, and the 9800GT because I found out that even the HD4650 low profile has a minimum power requirement of 400W.

Keep in mind that it should be the low profile version of the 9600GT(59 Watts), otherwise your power supply cannot handle it.
Reference:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9600gt_us.html

Lastly, your system must have at least 1GB of RAM in order to run Borderlands, I hope I have helped you.

 

[jyjjy]

I think that this is the best and most powerful video card you can buy below $100 and your system with 350W power supply can handle.

You definitely should not go by manufacturers suggest power requirements. They have nothing to do with reality. Any card without an external power connector necessarily uses at max 75w and all of them should run easily on any decent 350w PSU including the two cards I recommended.
Also you mean the low power 9600GT, not low profile. Low profile means a half height card and the only low profile 9600GT is not one of the low power versions.

 

[jfem]

Ok, I mean the low power version of the 9600GT.

 

[trez]

ok guys thanks a lot! i didn't know i would get so much help! haha

do yall think this would work well? : http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=RVCG94512GXXB-PB-R&cat=VCD

and i will get a vga adapter

 

[jyjjy]

No, that isn't a gaming card and even if you wanted a 9400GT that one is overpriced, especially considering it is refurbished.
If you want to spend around $50 instead of the $100 you mentioned before you should be looking at an HD4650 like this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141113
That's actually the DDR3 version which I haven't seen around in a long while. It's a nice card for that price and should do well at low resolutions.

 

[trez]

yeah i really wanted something more around $50 and that one looks great thanks alot

 

[jyjjy]

If you can afford a bit more this is also a good deal
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141114
and worth the extra money.

 

[trez]

oh i see they have three biostar ones on the site

i think i will just go with the $50 one but thanks alot

 

[randomkid]

Actually you just made a good decision spending much less than $100. Gaming at 1024x768 resolution does not demand lots of GPU power... But be reminded that if you decide to upgrade your monitor to say 1360x768 then that HD4650 will bottleneck your games. There will be no future for that card... Go get the HD4670 only for $12 more and you can still use it when you later decide to upgrade your monitor...

 

[sabot00]

Crunching the benchmark scores states otherwise (which I did from the two reviews) in general at least a 40% increase in performance over the HD 4670. Crysis showed one of the lower performance increase of only about 34%; Fallout 3 being the highest at nearly 80%. Crunch the numbers yourself if you wanna verify.

Dirt 2 is the only DX11 benchmark, the drop in performance going from DX10 to DX11 is roughly 35% - 38%.

STALKER: Call of Pripyat never came out!
Stay with the times...

HD 5870 in STALKER: Call of Pripyat

DX11:

DX10.1:

DX10:

DX9:

Link:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,700136/Stalker-Call-of-Pripyat-Benchmarks-from-DirectX-9-to-DirectX-11/Practice/

Average changes:

DX11 / DX9:
Day - 44/108 = .41 = 41% DX11 performs worse, 59% drop
Night - 38/119 = .32 = 32% DX11 performs worse, 68% drop
Rain - 41/128 = .32 = 32% DX11 performs worse, 68% drop
SunShafts - 29/54 = .54 = 54% DX11 performs worse, 46% drop

DX11/DX10:
Day - 44/38 = 1.16 = 116% DX11 performs better, 16% gain
Night - 38/33 = 1.15 = 115% DX11 performs better, 15% gain
Rain - 41/35 = 1.17 = 117% DX11 performs better, 17% gain
SunShafts - 29/27 = 1.07 = 107% DX11 performs better, 7% gain

DX11/DX10.1:
Day - 44/37 = 1.19 = 119% DX11 performs better, 19% gain
Night - 38/33 = 1.15 = 115% DX11 performs better, 15% gain
Rain - 41/34 = 1.21 = 121% DX11 performs better, 21% gain
SunShafts - 29/26 = 1.12 = 112% DX11 performs better, 12% gain

The differences between DirectX 9 and DirectX 10/11 as well as DirectX 10 and DirectX 11 are quite obvious.

DX11 only performs worse than DX9 (around 60.25% worse), while being better than DX10 (13.75%), and DX10.1 (16.75%)

 

[trez]

yeah i really dont care much about graphics my next system will be better

i haven't bought it yet and i might spend a little more to get that card