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March 6, 2010 9:03:59 PM

Country: United States

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Middle of May (I know this is far off which is probably why I will change the build)

BUDGET RANGE: $800.00 Max
--WITH Shipping and Instant Discounts
--WITHOUT Mail-In Rebates
--Shipping ZipCode with exact same taxes/cost (not my real one): 07480

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:
--1. Gaming
--2. Surfing the Internet/Homework
--3. Video Editing (Sony Vegas and Windows Movie Maker) and Recording (FRAPS)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:
-- If by recommendation the total system memory (ram, video, caches etc) falls under 4 GB, I can use an extra 32 Bit Windows I have with me. However, I still REQUIRE a 64 Bit Windows if the configuration does not change in such a manner.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: http://www.newegg.com/

PARTS PREFERENCES:
--Basically I have my preferred parts; I prefer going very low in terms of how much money needs to be spent
--Discrete Graphics is my absolute preference/requirement - I have been stuck and limited by integrated graphics power and need discrete before I start to hate computers forever. 128 bit memory interface or better required.
--Monitor that can play/run a minimum of 720p
--Hard Drive can be 80 GB. I've never kept things in storage too long, despite my video editing. Once I've uploaded a video to the Internet, I delete it from my Hard Drive. Anything I need to store I'll put onto either my external hard drive or my laptop's 200 GB hard drive). I just want to have fast access times.

OVERCLOCKING: No, unless it would increase the value (not cost) of my system (For example, dropping down to a 2.8 Ghz and OCing to 3.0 instead of buying a factory set 3.0 that I selected). I don't see room for significant over-clocking in my system and budget - let me know if I am wrong

MONITOR RESOLUTION:
--Minimum Width Pixels: 1280 Minimum Height Pixels: 720
--I would prefer a monitor that has a resolution of 1440 x 900; I have selected a monitor of 1600 x 900 already

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
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-Games Played and Will be Playing:
--Combat Arms by Nexon America
---REQUIREMENTS MINIMUM RECOMMENDED
---CPU Pentium 3 - 1GHz+ Pentium 4 - 2.4GHz+
---MEMORY 256Mb RAM 512Mb RAM
---VIDEO CARD GeForce 2 MX GeForce FX 5600 or better

(I don't need newer games at max settings with AA - min to med with a lower resolution will be all right). I've never played games that are killer in terms of performance anyway

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Don't need a large hard drive
Need a moderately good graphics card
If power consumption can be kept to a low without severely compromising performance, that's a plus.

I am very computer adept, although you most likely cannot tell that from my style of posting. If I have something new to learn about any parts or made a mistake, I'll be able to understand it very easily. One thing I am not sure about is some of the RAM to Processor relationships in terms of type/speed etc.


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LIST OF PARTS FROM NEWEGG
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Motherboard: ASRock K10N78M AM3/AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 8100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $54.99
--CPU Type: AM3, AM2+, AM2
--FSB: 2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200MT/s) (This will limit my CPU's HyperTransport, right?)
--RAM: 2 x 240 Pin DDR2 (533 - 1066) Max: 8GB
--PCIe 2.0 x 16: 1 Slot
--PCIe x 1: 1 Slot
--PCI: 2 Slots
--SATA 3Gb/s: 4 Ports
--RAID: 0/1/0+1/5/JBOD
--Onboard Video: NVIDIA GeForce 8 series (Will most likely be disabled, wouldn't Hybrid SLI [if I chose an NVIDIA Card] be limited by the integrated chip?)
--Audio Chipset: Realtek ALC662
--Onboard LAN: Yes, up to 1000 Mb/s
--6 USB Ports
--Cables: 1 SATA and 1 IDE

CPU:AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail $64.99
--Speed: 3.0 GHz Dual Core
--HyperTransport: 4000MHz
--AM3 Socket
--2 x 1 MB L2 Cache
--Would it be worth it if I bought an extra case fan(s)[if needed], switched to the 2.8, and over clocked to 3.0 GHz? (See Case)

RAM:PQI POWER Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MAD44GUOE-X2 - Retail $74.99
--4GB = 2 x 2GB
--DDR2 800
--CAS Latency: 5

Hard Drive:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD253GJ 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $44.99
--250GB
--16MB Cache
--SATA 3.0Gb/s
--7200 RPM
--(Remember that if you're looking at this I can go for a really small drive (80GB), as long as it's fast and not expensive)


CD/DVD Drive:HP Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Writer - Retail $28.99
--SATA Interface
--Supports Dual Layer DVDs
--(Needs to include a cable unless an IDE drive is selected - the Motherboard selected (if you don't change it) only comes with one SATA Cable)

GPU/Video Card:BIOSTAR VA4673NH51-B Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail $62.99
--512 MB DDR3
--128 Bit (I know this is a slight drawback)
--PCIe 2.0 x 16
-750MHz

Speakers:Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM $23.99
--I don't think OEM is going to affect me at all, inform me if I'm wrong

Keyboard and Mouse:Logitech Internet 350 Black USB Standard Desktop - OEM $22.18

Case:Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $39.99
--1 x 120mm Blue LED front fan
--1 x 120mm fan
--ATX and MicroATX supported
--Should I buy more fans/get a different case that has more fans? (See CPU)

Power Supply: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-530SS 530W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular LED Power Supply - Retail $49.98
--530W (The 4600 series has a 400W minimum)
--PCIe power connector, although thee 4670 does not require one. This can leave room for a future upgrade to a better graphics card, but isn't necessary

Operating System:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM 104.99
--64-bit OS

Monitor:Acer X203H bd Black 20" 16:9 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 10000:1 w/ HDCP Support - Retail $124.99
--GPU and Monitor are HDCP ready so if I find myself in the rare chance I need to use it....
--1600 x 900 resolution

Subtotal: $698.06
Taxes: $50.97
Shipping: $30.11
Total: $779.14

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March 6, 2010 10:19:15 PM

Ok, that GPU is trash, won't run Crysis well. This is the slowestGPU i would trust to Crysis is the radeon 4850 1gb. Also, that PSU is realy shady, i wouldn't trust my build to it. Also, wow i don't know how GTA IV will run on that build. praobly gonna look like trash, even on that low res. GTA IV is the destryer of budget builds, Peopel have trouble maxing that out with 2K$ builds, the system reqs call for a C2Q 3.0ghz, and a 4870x2/Gtx 285.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 7, 2010 12:24:07 AM

builderbobftw said:
Ok, that GPU is trash, won't run Crysis well. This is the slowestGPU i would trust to Crysis is the radeon 4850 1gb. Also, that PSU is realy shady, i wouldn't trust my build to it. Also, wow i don't know how GTA IV will run on that build. praobly gonna look like trash, even on that low res. GTA IV is the destryer of budget builds, Peopel have trouble maxing that out with 2K$ builds, the system reqs call for a C2Q 3.0ghz, and a 4870x2/Gtx 285.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


One can dream! lol
I've edited my post to more accurately reflect my preferences but I know I'm going to still receive harsh criticism (don't get my wrong, I still welcome it)
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March 7, 2010 12:27:32 AM

Righ dude, but i've seen people with i7-920s at 4.0 on liquid, and 4870 Quadfires failing to max out GTA IV at 2560 x1600. You realy, realy need to get a minimum of the 95$ 4850. You would still be on budget, and you could actualy get decent FPS.
It's 30$, and you're fps will like quadruple.
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March 7, 2010 1:58:09 AM

Ow Dual core + HD 4670 = not too hot for GTA4 You'd want to hit at least a HD 4770 for resolutions like 1440 x 900 / 1280 x 1024 / 1600 x 900 and at least an entry level triple core like the AthlonII X3 4XX series ^^ Anyway managed to slap up an entry level quad + GTS 250 which paired with that 1440 x 900 LCD will give ya very decent playing experience at medium settings (Follow frames generated for 1280 x 1024 which is = ) In fact Full HD doesn't look too shabby but dun think you could squeeze in a Full HD LCD ya hehe

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March 7, 2010 1:07:27 PM

Allrught, you want the much, faster, much cheaper 4850 1gb over the gts 250. Anything slower than the 4850 1gb, inculding the GTS 250, will be to slow for any decent game quality in GTA IV. The GTS 250 appears to faster than the 4850 in that bench, but it's 40$ more, and that the 512mb version no the 1gb that i linked you.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 7, 2010 2:38:17 PM

GTS 250 > 4850 IMO

They both perform about the same.

the 1GB memory = useless unless you are gaming at high resolutions. There won't be any real difference between the two.
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March 7, 2010 2:40:14 PM

Realy? The 4850 is 30$ cheaper, and they "preform about the same". Why not get a faster card for 35$ less?
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March 8, 2010 12:28:56 AM

batuchka said:
Ow Dual core + HD 4670 = not too hot for GTA4 You'd want to hit at least a HD 4770 for resolutions like 1440 x 900 / 1280 x 1024 / 1600 x 900 and at least an entry level triple core like the AthlonII X3 4XX series ^^ Anyway managed to slap up an entry level quad + GTS 250 which paired with that 1440 x 900 LCD will give ya very decent playing experience at medium settings (Follow frames generated for 1280 x 1024 which is = ) In fact Full HD doesn't look too shabby but dun think you could squeeze in a Full HD LCD ya hehe
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/lish.jpg
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Your response has been the most helpful so far but it goes over my budget range(800$ includes shipping and tax to 07480) and I'm personally not confident in the case selected - any advice?
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March 8, 2010 2:12:45 AM

S7tom his build is $779 total (including shipping, there's no tax)

Make sure you add the combos.
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March 8, 2010 8:12:49 AM

S7Tom said:
Your response has been the most helpful so far but it goes over my budget range(800$ includes shipping and tax to 07480) and I'm personally not confident in the case selected - any advice?


Dun worry it's not as if you running a CF/SLI set up and a GTS 250 is not known to be a hotty :p  In fact for a budget mATX that case is 2 x 120mm capable and along with the Cooler Master 341 is one of my favourite budget casings hehe Yep combos ftw and you are welcomed :lol: 
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March 8, 2010 11:25:23 PM

How bad would switching to 2 Gigabytes of Ram be? :pfff: 
I've never used that much before

The zip code provided is located in the state of New Jersey - this is one of the unlucky few states that needs to pay taxes to NewEgg. Using the zipcode 07480 will add about 60$ in taxes to the proposed build.
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March 9, 2010 10:14:15 AM

2GB for a purely gaming rig ain't bad at all really
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March 9, 2010 6:14:34 PM

Uh sometimes you want 4gb. Not worth the 20$ savings to go down to 2gb.
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March 12, 2010 12:51:09 PM

He wouldn't save $20, he would save $40
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March 12, 2010 1:21:10 PM

Seems to me some are helping while others aren't being too bright in there computational skills in this thread lol
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March 14, 2010 8:13:36 PM

I'd just like to note that I'd save an additional 100$ by not having to buy a windows operating system as I already have an extra 32Bit OS License.

That fact is buried in my post - I myself would not have found that if someone else was asking me.
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March 14, 2010 8:14:47 PM

Yeh, So stick with 4gb. Even if you don't, 4gb is enough.
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