New high end build. First time.

[dmavro]

Ive come up with this for my first build. Im considering it a high end build. Let me know if im wrong. Im going to use it to trade and maybe play a few games. For a few of the parts ive selected more that one item and would like to know what people think. Anyone see any problems with the build?

I will be running Windows7 Pro 64bit

CPU- Intel Core i7-930 2.8GHz... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225

Mobo- GigaByte GA-X58A-UD5 ( I want eSata and Usb3.0)... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128422

RAM- OCZ Platinum Tri Channel 6GB PC12800 DDR3 Memory - 1600MHz, 6144MB (3 x 2048)... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4350431&sku=O261-7616

HD's- 2x velociraptor 300Gb HD's... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136322

videocards- Im still trying to decide what to get i need support for 8 extended desktops so i can have 8 independent screens. I was thinking about getting 2x Nvidia Quadro NVS 420's...
OR
2x ATI FireMV 2450- 512MB GDDR3, PCI-E 2.0,VHDCI, Quad DVI Support, Quad VGA Support, Low-Profile... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4506159&CatId=28

I saw cards by a company called JATON... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139055
also.

Power Supply- SILVERSTONE ST75F 750W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS SLI Ready Mod Active PFC... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256009
OR
Corsair HX750W 750-Watt Modular Power Supply... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4668506&sku=C13-2510
( Is 750W enough)

OpticalDrive- PLEXTOR PX-880SA-26 w/LightScribe... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827249051

I really am not sure about the cases i picked. But I really wanted to try and use something that isnt tremendous and i want to keep the machine as silent as possible.
Case- LIAN LI Lancool PC-K60 Black CECC Steel Plastic Advance Mid Tower Computer Case ... http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch_v3.asp?scriteria=AA75762#aShoppingCart
OR
Thermaltake Element V VL20001W2Z - http://underbid.com/product/567-418754/A189459/Thermaltake_VL20001W2Z_Element_V_Full_Tower_Case_-_4x_USB_6x_3.5_Bays_5x_5.25_Bays_HD_Audio_Port_eSATA_Black_A189459.html?ref=base

I have ASUS 24" LCD's

i might overclock later on and am not sure if im going to be setup to be able too.
I dont need SLI or Crossfire

 

[dmavro]

I also saw this graphics card...
JATON VIDEO-PX309-QUAD Radeon HD 3450 512MB 64-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139055&cm_re=jaton-_-14-139-055-_-Product

and i also saw these other cases and was wondering if anyone has used before....

LIAN LI PC-B25F- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112248 $179.99 (not sure if i really need all the fans)


Silverstone KL02B Kublail ATX Mid-Tower Case... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3905303&CatId=32

 

[MadAdmiral]

How about you give us a budget? Might also want to refer to the link in my signature for the guidelines...

I don't know too much about workstation GPUs, so I'll leave that to some one else. However, there are couple of problems with the build.

First, WD VelociRaptors are really, really bad. There are bigger, faster drives at a third of the cost (Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB or 500 GB, Seagate 7200.12 in the same sizes). If you need super fast HDDs, get an SSD (Corsair Reactor 128 GB for $324).

Second, OCZ's RAM has some problems with compatibility. It's mostly due to the sticks needs for a lot of voltage, and the motherboards don't like RAM to need more than 1.65V. Those sticks are also really expensive. I recommend the G.Skill Pi Series 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 for $180.

 

[dmavro]

budget $2400

I didnt realize there were that many issues with that ram. It is $40 more than the ram u r suggesting and it is one of the supported rams from the gigabyte website. That was the main reason i chose the OCZ's. http://www.gigabyte.us/FileList/MemorySupport/mb_memory_ga-x58a-ud5.pdf . There are 2 G.Skill there but not the one you are recommending. Should i try and purchase one that is suggested by gigabyte or is it not that important. Someone on the forum told me i should. Also, the velociraptors were actually recommended by someone i know. I just figured getting 10K drives over 7200k would be better and faster.

 

[MadAdmiral]

It's not that important to follow the QVL. That's only the specific models they have extensively tested.

As for the VRs, that would be true when the VRs were released. However, it's pretty old tech. Lots of people believe them to be faster, but they aren't.

So given $2,400, here's what I'd build:


CPU: i7-930 $299
Mobo: Asus P6X58D Premium $310
HSF (only if you're overclocking): Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B $65. Add two 120mm fans to that, so add about $20.
RAM: Mushkin Enahnced Redline 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 6 $230 after rebate
GPU: Whatever workstation GPU fits the budget.
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
SSD: Corsair Reactor 128 GB $329
Case: HAF 922 $90
PSU: OCZ Z Series 850W 80+ Gold $200
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $25

Total: $2,367.

 

[dmavro]

Does that board have eSATA connections (internal or external). It doesnt look like it, but i cant tell. i wanted eSata and USB3.0 which the gigabyte board has.

 

[dmavro]

I read the post about the spinpoints vs. the Wd caviars. I cant believe those samsungs are faster. I never would of figured that. thanx for pointing that out.

 

[MadAdmiral]

It doesn't have eSATA ports. I didn't notice that you wanted that. In that case, the board you have is good. Leaves some more room for the GPU(s)...

 

[dmavro]

In other posts people told me to only get 750W PSU . I see u have a 850W PSu in the build, which im fine with. Do u think 750W isnt enough? Also, i dont plan on overclocking just yet. Should i plan for it now. Or is it easy to implement down the road with this build. I figured i could just buy the HSF u recommended when i do.

 

[MadAdmiral]

750W should be enough, but that 850W is one of the most efficient PSUs (lower heat, lower power bills). If you were going to Crossfire/SLI bigger cards, I would definitely have an 850W. If you do decide on a 750W unit, here's another high efficiency unit: SeaSonic 750W 80+ Gold for $180.

Overclocking can be done at anytime. The advantage of the aftermarket HSF without overclocking is that it keeps the CPU cooler and makes the computer quieter. You don't have to get it now. In fact, I would wait if you're not overclocking right away, as the price is pretty high for it right now.

 

[dmavro]

How big a PSU if i was going to get 2x sapphire radeon 4850 2gb cards-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102809

 

[MadAdmiral]

I'm going to guess 750W would be fine, 850W if you wanted to overclock everything.

Here's a good PSU wattage calculator: http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

 

[dmavro]

It's not that important to follow the QVL. That's only the specific models they have extensively tested.

As for the VRs, that would be true when the VRs were released. However, it's pretty old tech. Lots of people believe them to be faster, but they aren't.

So given $2,400, here's what I'd build:


CPU: i7-930 $299
Mobo: Asus P6X58D Premium $310
HSF (only if you're overclocking): Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B $65. Add two 120mm fans to that, so add about $20.
RAM: Mushkin Enahnced Redline 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 6 $230 after rebate
GPU: Whatever workstation GPU fits the budget.
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
SSD: Corsair Reactor 128 GB $329
Case: HAF 922 $90
PSU: OCZ Z Series 850W 80+ Gold $200
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $25

Total: $2,367.

Did u mean this SSD drive.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233087

The link to the one u added directs to the 120gb drive not the 128 gb.

 

[MadAdmiral]

Actually no. It's this one: Corsair Nova 128 GB $320.

 

[dmavro]

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[dmavro]

It's not that important to follow the QVL. That's only the specific models they have extensively tested.

As for the VRs, that would be true when the VRs were released. However, it's pretty old tech. Lots of people believe them to be faster, but they aren't.

So given $2,400, here's what I'd build:


CPU: i7-930 $299
Mobo: Asus P6X58D Premium $310
HSF (only if you're overclocking): Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B $65. Add two 120mm fans to that, so add about $20.
RAM: Mushkin Enahnced Redline 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 6 $230 after rebate
GPU: Whatever workstation GPU fits the budget.
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
SSD: Corsair Reactor 128 GB $329
Case: HAF 922 $90
PSU: OCZ Z Series 850W 80+ Gold $200
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $25

Total: $2,367.

The PSU u suggested is also available as a modular unit for $10 dollars more. It looks like the only difference is that it has a few less connections from what i can tell. Is there anything wrong with that one instead. I wanted to keep the interior of my case neat. Also, i read somewhere that with certain PSU's you will need specific UPS's . Sorry, I cant find the article i read that in. And if that is true, I dont even know how to tell what type is what. I have an APC Back-UPS RS1500 that i intend on using. Will i have an issue?

 

[dmavro]

I was looking at the thermal take element g case instead of the HAF922 only because it has the fan control . If im not planning on overclocking would there be no reason to even go with that one? I just thought i could control the fan speeds and therefore make the unit quieter if need be.