Need help choosing a new monitor!

[Equilibrium]

Hello,

I am building a new computer (i7 with a 5870, woot) and need some help picking out a new monitor for gaming. I have narrowed it down to these two but any other suggestions are more than welcome.

Samsung P2350
http://www.frys.com/product/5979304?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

LG W2353V-PF
http://www.frys.com/product/5871753?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Other
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236047

 

[AMW1011]

The LG is cheaper and has HDMI. I guarantee that they both use the same panel and will look almost identical, most of these new budget 1080p monitors are all using the same cheap panels. It is also VERY disappointing that the Samsung lacks HDMI, that is a definite no-no for 1080P+ monitors in 2010.

I will post the best product for you once I find the best price.

 

[AMW1011]

Other
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236047

A bit higher of a price though, it might not fit the OP's price range. This would however:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

It has nothing more than the other monitors he listed and the monitor you listed has no real advantages either. The panel used in these monitors is bottom-of-the-line, so they are all very similar.

 

[AMW1011]

Found it:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-7641

Similar specs to the others, but has a higher resolution with the same screen size which = higher pixel density which = clarity and detail. It is also cheaper.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

It has nothing more than the other monitors he listed and the monitor you listed has no real advantages either.

Well if you are just looking at specs, you're ignoring the additional outputs and increased resolution. All other things being equal, I'll take 1920 x 1200 over 1080 every time but let picture quality "into the picture" so to speak and it's a whole new ball game. The price is a bit more, but money well spent IMO.

 

[dougie_boy]

spend a bit more on the monitor. you have spend $$$ on the i7 and a brand new 5870 only to use a middle of the line monitor to view the results of your labour.

have a look at a 24" HP which is a cracking screen.

 

[marney_5]

The LG is cheaper and has HDMI. I guarantee that they both use the same panel and will look almost identical, most of these new budget 1080p monitors are all using the same cheap panels. It is also VERY disappointing that the Samsung lacks HDMI, that is a definite no-no for 1080P+ monitors in 2010.

I will post the best product for you once I find the best price.

Yep that is very true most do have the same panels!!!

i love the samsung monitors and TV's but i didnt realise that Samsung monitors lack HDMI.

 

[AMW1011]

Well if you are just looking at specs, you're ignoring the additional outputs and increased resolution. All other things being equal, I'll take 1920 x 1200 over 1080 every time but let picture quality "into the picture" so to speak and it's a whole new ball game. The price is a bit more, but money well spent IMO.

Right, but it doesn't really offer anything major. It is a bit bigger, but has a smaller pixel density. What I meant was that it uses a very similar or near identical panel as the other monitors.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Yep that is very true most do have the same panels!!!

Many do......but not in this case. A 1920 x 1200 vs. 1920 x 1080 for one is a dead giveaway.

 

[christop]

I have the same monitor JackNaylorPE was suggesting the asus 25.6 inch I picked mine up thru Logic buy for 239.00 Love it no dead or stuck pixels..

 

[magneezo]

Go for the big boy!
With all of this talk of Eyefinity I'm starting to wonder beyond PC monitors into HDTV's and what a super widescreen could do in place of 3 monitors. Think about it.
This may not be it here but if my Father in Laws TV is any indication it's a super widescreen that cost him close to $2000 just a couple years ago.
Prices are definitley getting more reasonable now
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+BRAVIA+32%22+Class+/+1080p+/+60Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9761129.p?id=1218168619794&skuId=9761129

 

[Equilibrium]

I will have to start looking at Asus again. That Dell SP2309W is pretty sexy as well. My limit has a hard ceiling of $300 (because I decided to splurge on a 5870) so I was just looking at some decent TN panels.

I thought the P2350 was a pretty good deal even though it lacked an hdmi port. Pardon my ignorance, but aren't dvi and hdmi roughly similiar in terms of video quality?

PS - Sorry for posting this in the graphics forum ... I didn't know there was a computer peripherals - monitor section but I am glad I posted here because of the awesome replies!

 

[magneezo]

I will have to start looking at Asus again. That Dell SP2309W is pretty sexy as well. My limit has a hard ceiling of $300 (because I decided to splurge on a 5870) so I was just looking at some decent TN panels.

I thought the P2350 was a pretty good deal even though it lacked an hdmi port. Pardon my ignorance, but aren't dvi and hdmi roughly similiar in terms of video quality?

PS - Sorry for posting this in the graphics forum ... I didn't know there was a computer peripherals - monitor section but I am glad I posted here because of the awesome replies!

Damn man I paid $149 for my KDS (emachines) 20" HD Monitor last year and have yet to buy the cable. Duh!

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Right, but it doesn't really offer anything major. It is a bit bigger, but has a smaller pixel density. What I meant was that it uses a very similar or near identical panel as the other monitors.

It us certainly true that there are very few actual panel manufacturers and many panel vendors produce models using panels shared by a number of vendors. But if it's bigger, has different density, different resolution, it's clearly not the same panel.....it's a bit of a stretch to say every 1920 panel in production is "nearly the same" especially when made by different factories.

The Samsung model uses the 23"WS TN Film (Panel No. LTM230HT01) from Samsung

The Asus Model uses the 26"WS TN Film (Panel No. M260J3-L01) from CMO

 

[AMW1011]

It us certainly true that there are very few actual panel manufacturers and many panel vendors produce models using panels shared by a number of vendors. But if it's bigger, has different density, different resolution, it's clearly not the same panel.....it's a bit of a stretch to say every 1920 panel in production is "nearly the same" especially when made by different factories.

The Samsung model uses the 23"WS TN Film (Panel No. LTM230HT01) from Samsung

The Asus Model uses the 26"WS TN Film (Panel No. M260J3-L01) from CMO

You misunderstand what I mean by the "same". They are slightly different, yes, but they are all based on the same newer mainstream TN-panel. The resolution is easily changed, but the other specifications such as viewing angles are not. The only point I was making was that there will be no picture quality difference between any of the mentioned monitors in this thread besides the pixel density.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Well all I can say is that, in my experience, I have not found that to be the case. Walking into a BestBuy store and seeing 30 monitors side by side, they all do not look a like. Everyone uses the same basic "cola" recipe but to my buds, they don't all taste the same.

There's also the issue of circuitry, power regulation and control which is why Eizo monitors, made with the same panels as monitors costing half as much, can command the prices that they do.