yeah thanks for the link, i seen that already. i was hopeing there was something short and sweet. Mobo/bios come with a program et6. so i can click on it and it goes from 4.0 to 4.2. i was just hopeing there was some simple math to clock it useing air rather than adding a liquid cooling system. I was kinda wanting to get it to a solid 4.6-4.8. guessing im biteing off more than i can chew. thanks again.