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March 10, 2010 12:24:40 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Today or tomorrow

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, composing with Sibelius and GPO, movies, etc

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:
case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131614

gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161302

psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225

ram:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231247

moniter: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052

optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

cpu fan(don't know if I really need this): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Yes I will get the mobo cpu combo ;) 

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: intel

OVERCLOCKING: perhaps SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: high as i can get probably

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: looking to stay around the $1800 dollar mark, I'm just looking to see if anyone has some last minute suggestions. And I guess a need a hard drive, 1TB please

And also, is this a big enough psu? And I checked the mobo/ram compatability and it says they are compatible but I would just like to make sure.

Thanks!

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March 10, 2010 1:29:19 AM

Looks impeccable (non-peckable) !!

YES get the Hyper 212 cooler, even if you do not OC !


Nit-picking ...

Check out the 28" monitors at Tiger Direct !!!

You might want to bump up to a 5870 (buy I'm sure you have comiserates ad-nauseum, on that choice).


I do not se anything in the way of a storage subsystem !! You REALLY want a Kingston 64GB or 128GB boot/apps drive, if in budget .... really hard to do this later !!! Best to do the boot SSD at 1st-build.

Here is a check-list ... Forget anything ?





*** OPERATING SYSTEM

*** MAIN APPS

*** SYSTEM-COMPUTE CORE

MOTHERBOARD
CPU
COOLER(S) & PASTE (Extreme OC see GAMING SUPPORT)
RAM

*** GRAPHICS SUBSYSTEM

WORKSTATION GPU CARDS
GAMERS GPU CARDS
MULTIMONITOR PROFESSIONAL APPS CARD
BASIC HOME OFFICE CARD
GPU CARD FOR TODDLER'S GAMES AND EDU-WARE
SLI BRIDGES AND CONNECTORS
SPECIAL COOLING
CABLES AND ADAPTERS

*** DISPLAY SUSBSYSTEM

MONITORS
HDTVs
PROJECTORS
SCREENS
MOUNTS
CABLES AND ADAPTERS
CLEANING AND ACCESSORIES

*** GAMING SUPPORT

ALL NOT LISTED ELSEWHERE

*** TELECONFERENCING

WEB-CAMS
MICROPHONES
HEADSETS
SOFTWARE
OTHER

*** STORAGE SUBSYSTEM

CARD READER
DVD BURNER
BLURAY BURNER
BOOT DRIVE
APPS DRIVE
CONTENT DRIVE
BACKUP DRIVE
MEDIA
ENCOSURES
CABLES & ADAPTERS
EXTERNAL RAID
SLOT BASED SSD
PLATES
TRAYS
MOBILE RACKS
FANS

*** SOUND SUBSYSTEM & STUDIO INTERFACE

SOUND CARD
CONTROL SURFACE
BREAKOUT BOX
HEADPHONES
MICROPHONES
HEADSETS
SPEAKERS

*** SYSTEM IFRASTRUCTURE

CASE
FANS
PLATES AND BRACKETS
CASE HARDWARE & ACCESSORIES
PSU
CABLES AND ADAPTERS

*** HUMAN iNTERFACE AND ERGONOMICS

KEYBOARD
POINTING DEVICE(S)
MOUSE
PADS CUSIONS AND RESTS
TRACK-BALL
AIR-MOUSE
TOUCH PAD
TOUCH SCREEN

*** PRINTING AND LABELLING

PRINTERS
LABELERS
LARGE FORMAT
PHOTO
PRINTABLE DISK

*** NETWORKING
*** PRESENTATION
*** SALES
*** POINT OF SALE

Don't forget a syringe of Arctic Silver Thermal Compound (read up if you have not done before).

March 10, 2010 1:50:31 AM

Agreed get hyper 212. I asked one guy who had the same proc and mobo as mine and he was seeing 34-35 C on idle. I saw 29-30 c with my hyper 212 hsf and the artic mx-2 lube. Needless to say a good hsf is worth it's weight in gold.

Also consider a xfx 5850. It's a lifetime warranty. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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March 10, 2010 1:51:47 AM

I do not want an SSD, its not int he budget, just a regular hard drive, but I would like a recomendation for a 1 terabyte one please, and one that is not sold out :(  I do really want that 5870 but I don't know if I can stretch to get it, will I be able to crossfire two 5850s? or a 5870 and 5850 if I get one later?

Will all the neccesary little things come with these items, as in cables and stuff, or will I need extra cables.

I assume my RAM was okay then?

March 10, 2010 1:53:18 AM

Sorry didn't see your post, yes I looked at that gpu but it seemed to a surprisingly lower customer review rating....
March 10, 2010 1:58:12 AM

If you stretch for the 5870, you will not need a second card, later (really) but *IF* you do, it will be a 5870 (*NOT* a 5850!)

The good new is, that 14 months from now, the 5870 will cost way less than the 5850 does now ??? Hmmmm ?

Here is your hard drive ... it'll do ya.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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March 10, 2010 2:03:36 AM

felhound275 said:
Sorry for triple post, is this a decent hard drive? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284



Yes ... Yours or mine ... about the same in every way ... "BLACK" just sounds so cool tho ! Worth $10 xtra ???

If there is (IDK) any difference in cache size, you will not be able to tell the diff ... Over 16MB cache has little (if *ANY*) effect on performance and absolutely NO difference in user perception.

= Al =
March 10, 2010 2:04:40 AM

Right now for the price/performance you can't beat a Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD. Although, the Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB drives are also nice.

Seriously, as much as promote the F3's, you'd think Samsung would throw some money or hardware or stickers or something my way.
March 10, 2010 2:16:55 AM

== Pretty much agree on everything ... 'cept one is as good as another (all 3) ...
... Just go with the brand that makes you "feel" best ...

... ME? ... I would also go for the spin-point, then the BLACK ... but if both were out of stock, I wouldn't wait around ... I have a SEAGATE 300GB SATA-II and SEAGATE was the FIRST to have NATIVE SATA and WD used a cludgy adapter for over a year ... Seagate also INVENTED NCQ and a few other SATA patents.

Just to be fair ... . . . S E A . . . G A T E . . . ... What kind of name IS that, anyway !?

They're ALL just fine ... if you get a lemon, egg will swap it out quick.

= ALVIN =
March 10, 2010 2:42:18 AM

moJoe knows what he's talkin about ... Don't insult him by asking if the RAM is compatible.

If the RAM is better it is because of CAS timings and/or heat-sinks (CAS).
Just take what he gives you and be very grateful ... if you ever get a clue about OC, you will be way ahead.

= Al =

Now if ShortStuff or MadAdmiral correct Mo, then (only then) can you doubt.

March 10, 2010 2:48:10 AM

specs from your mobo

Memory
Number of Memory Slots 6×240pin
Memory Standard DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066
Maximum Memory Supported 24GB
Channel Supported Triple Channel



specs from tecmo's ram kit ...

Tech Spec
Capacity 6GB (3 x 2GB)
Speed DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Cas Latency 7
Timing 7-8-7-24-2N
Voltage 1.5V
ECC No
Buffered/Registered Unbuffered
Multi-channel Kit Triple Channel Kit
Heat Spreader Yes

Yeah ... They are CAS 7 ram ... It does not get any better unless you want cooling fans and blinky things ! (which get you nothing , BTW)

= AL =
March 10, 2010 2:54:55 AM

Ok, no offense meant, thanks a lot guys! One last question, do I need to buy a "case speaker"? I can't find if mine comes with one or not... Thanks again for all your help this is my first build that I am doing myself so I'll let yall know how it goes.
a c 78 à CPUs
March 10, 2010 3:16:51 AM

No offense taken on my part... :) 

Your case comes with a "case speaker" based on the images provided on Newegg.com, so don't worry about picking one up.

@Alvin Smith... Thanks for your comments... :) 
March 10, 2010 3:35:06 AM

You might want to stick one of those 7-in-1 card readers in a front bay.

March 10, 2010 3:40:43 AM

Ok thanks a lot, I don't think I will need a card reader, but thanks for the suggestion. I guess another question idk if it can be answered though. Apparently this ram(i choose your offer btw) has large heat sinks and they can interfere with cpu coolers. Is this cpu cooler large enough that it will be a problem? I suppose if it is I can always send it back or something and stick with the stock one.

Just as a wrap up, I assume all of these things come with manuals, at least I hope so, because I am confident(I have replaced individual components before) but I have never had to set my own BIOS.

Well thanks again!
March 10, 2010 4:03:57 AM

Man, the marketers have really figgered out how to get you "a little something more, for just $10 extra"

I would only do that if I was getting 2 of them, right now, and RAIDING them ...

That's a $20 step up from the commodity pool drives. (all 3 drives discussed earlier in this thread)

= we are really splitting whiskers, here =

March 10, 2010 4:15:09 AM

READ BOTH of these threads, the day before you start your build and read the 2nd thread AGAIN ... JUST BEFORE you start your build ... Also READ the Thermal Paste links (x2) posted in Shoet-Stuff's TS guide ...
... I see the BOOT PROBS guide as the more helpful of the two ... ESPECAIALLY IF YOU READ IT B E F O R E You build ... It *IS* the "Sacred Oracle" (from on high) and really is one of the most comprehensive and most concise TS guides I have ever seen (In my 25+ yrs of Tech Support) ... Just about everything I've learned is in there.


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...

= CHEERS ! =
March 10, 2010 10:22:52 AM

I have in fact read those threads, thanks for all your time and help everyone!
March 10, 2010 11:07:23 AM

You'll want the most recent drivers for: Chipset, LAN, Audio, USB, and SATA

You may need to install the LAN drivers off of the CD though, I'm unsure about 7 (So far it's autodetected the LAN driver each time) but I recall XP almost never knowing the.

The SATA is probably optional, since you don't really need it unless you are doing a RAID array.
March 10, 2010 11:13:34 AM

go to ASUSTEK.com (I think) and find out ... read everything you can find on how it is done because some mobos are finnicky about the procedure ...

... The newegg page for your board has a manufacturers main/product-page/support links, half way down the left margin of the newegg product page.

= Al =

it is usually the main pwr connector not properly seated ... RAM not fully in ... gpu takes much downward force to "snap it home" and most folks are surprised, the first time around.

The thing about that doc is that many folks think "no way I have an extra standoff under the mobo, shorting it to ground. ... or ... [I already tested that (but not before you reseated the power connector) ... so that is why I really kind of "insist" that you use the doc... so nothing is overlooked or poo-poo'd .

Feel free to ask about anything that is going on with that process, though ... just do not "jump the tracks" and vector "off document" or "out of sequence" .... Divide, Conquer, pin it down ... no "fuzzy maybies" and no "doing 2 steps at once ... you are spliting parts of the sys off and finding ways to verify their individual status.

= Alvin =
March 10, 2010 11:27:50 AM

Don't worry I'm not building it yet, just had a quick question thats all :) 
a c 78 à CPUs
March 10, 2010 3:43:53 PM

cscott_it said:
You'll want the most recent drivers for: Chipset, LAN, Audio, USB, and SATA

You may need to install the LAN drivers off of the CD though, I'm unsure about 7 (So far it's autodetected the LAN driver each time) but I recall XP almost never knowing the.

The SATA is probably optional, since you don't really need it unless you are doing a RAID array.

^+1

I would recommend downloading the drivers just prior to the installation (from another PC if available) and install them on a flash drive. Once the build is up and running, load the flash drive and install the drivers off of the drive. I might look to clarify that statement in my sticky to help with the confussion.
March 10, 2010 3:49:13 PM

Yep I'll have my current pc right next to me to follow along with the various guides, and I have a flash drive so I'm good to go as long as usb slots dont need drivers.
March 10, 2010 4:13:14 PM

Just skimming back over the thread ...

... DO NOT worry about those heat-sinks (espesially if you go with the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 cooler, which is prolly the most "physically compatible" cooler available...

. . . those are the "medium length heat spreaders" and are no worry, whatsoever, if on the same mobo as the Hper212 cooler.

Good-to-go

= Alvin =
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