5830 or 4890

[prototypex]

Ok i just purchased this xfx 4890 card last week.I see now that the 5830 has released.Should i trade it in for a 5830? or will my performance with the 4890 still be better

 

[shadow187]

If you're keeping the HD4890 for < 1.5years, HD4890.
If you're keeping the HD4890 for > 1.5years, HD5830.

 

[L1qu1d]

They seem perform about the same, only diff is that the 5830 still has room to grow, it runs cooler, and has DX 11 at its disposal.

I would say if its around a 50$ difference, I would go for the 5830, anything more, I don't think its worth it.

If prices are like here where I live, the 5770 is the same as the 4890, and the 5830 seems like it will be more expensive.

Time will tell.

 

[prototypex]

The way everyone talks about dx 11 being the *** nonstop.is every player in the world going to upgrade is it that worth it?.THats what frustrates me a bit

 

[prototypex]

Ask yourself this question.Would you upgrade to a 5830 if you had a 4890.would you yourself in my shoes would you just keep the 4890 dx 10.1 or not lol.i payed 188 for my 4890.

 

[darkguset]

HD5830

 

[victomofreality]

I'd go with the 5830 myself and hope for performance boosts from the maturing drivers.

 

[L1qu1d]

The way everyone talks about dx 11 being the *** nonstop.is every player in the world going to upgrade is it that worth it?.THats what frustrates me a bit

I said the features, I'm not pushing dx 11. Remember drivers are still not mature for the 5830. Thats the point. DX 11 is a great feature. When its implemented into games, it looks like it has some great features.

Like i said if the card is more than 50$ difference I wouldn't, if its less I would because drivers will add atleast 8% more performance like we've seen happen in the past.

 

[Truhls]

Id suggest only getting the 5830 if your willing to OC it, the real ability of this GPU is when you OC it, otherwise its just a bad deal and its quite similar to a 5770 in performance, and nowhere the extra price premium if you dont.

 

[eklipz330]

keep it. theres like 4 games with dx11, not worth the trip to the store to exchange the cards.

by the time dx11 really kicks in, we'll be in another generation. keep it.

 

[jyjjy]

DX11 is nice but the HD5830 is just too expensive for it's performance imo. If you are going to pay that much the HD5850 is really a much better card for not too much more money.

 

[JDFan]

The way everyone talks about dx 11 being the *** nonstop.is every player in the world going to upgrade is it that worth it?.THats what frustrates me a bit

Within a couple years there probably will not be a choice but to upgrade since DX11 adds several new things that DX 10 can not do and as the base of installed DX11 cards grows (which is inevitable as once Fermi is released noone will be making DX10 cards anymore) game makers will eventually be using it as a standard. SO if you plan to upgrade again within that timeframe then buying a non DX11 card makes sense but for those that plan to keep the system and only do minor updates for the next 3-4 years then it only makes sense to buy DX11 now instead of waiting.

 

[deadlockedworld]

Shadow is right with the first post.

If you want to keep it and crossfire in the future the 5830 is a better option. If you want the most performance per-buck right now the 4890 is better.

 

[andy5174]

4890 all the way!

 

[-Fran-]

I have a 4890 and the launch of the 5830 doesn't turn me up at all.

So keep your 4890 for the time being IMO. It will last a lot since DX11 adoption is slower than DX10 and engines are not mature enough to make it a worthy upgrade.

Cheers!

 

[mohsentux]

4 voters say 4890 and 3 voters say 5830 and some say for more than 1.5 year and upgrading 5830 is better.
It's your call pal but don't forget to OC .LOL

 

[KidHorn]

I think ATIs plan is to keep the 5830 overpriced until they can get rid of their remaining 4850/4870/4890 lines. Once they're gone, the 5830 will drop to $180 or so.

I would keep the 4890. It performs better than the 5830 for DX 9 and 10 and based on the performance of the 5830 running DX 11, it's really not a good card for running DX 11. If you plan to run DX 11, go with the 5850 or higher.

 

[andy5174]

@prototypex:

Check All Gaming Graphics Cards Charts 2009 (High Quality, Update 3)

 

[shadow187]

Guys, this isn't ALWAYS about performance, kay? The beenfit of HD5K is new technology, whether it be DX11, power, heat, or what-have-you. If he plans on keeping this build for over a year (rougly 9 months or so), then he should buy the HD5830. If he gets the 4890, he'll have to sell it when his favorite game comes out for DX11 (theoretical, but you get the idea).

 

[andy5174]

HD4890 lacks the DX11 and useless eyefinity(to the majority) but it is significantly better and at a much lower cost.

Besides, you can still run DX10 on DX11 games and it will be the time to upgrade when DX10 is completely obsolete.

In addition, no one would get LGA1366 i7 if power consumption is really a great deal to most peoples which it isn't.

5830 will be extremely outdated by the time that you have recovered the premium from the power bill and everyone else will be already running much more efficient card for ages then.

 

[andy5174]

IMO, AMD is playing as bad in the GFX industry now as it was in the CPU industry in 2005/2006 when Intel was away.

We really need nVidia to be back in competition.

 

[L1qu1d]

yes but no1 expected this card to beat out the 4890 because the 5850 is the next card up, and we coudn't have it in that performance range because it would make the 5850 obsolete.

Its not about Dx 11 or performance. Its about getting the best bang for the buck, what I want to kno is your question.

DID you buy the 4890 and you can exchange it for a 5850 (meaning get your full money back) or do you have a 4890 and you want to know if you get rid of it and upgrade to the 5830.

Its a big difference. If you have a 4890 and can't get ur money back, this post is answered with a big fat no dont upgrade.

People are forgetting the 5830s extra OC headroom, Driver updates and potential when DX 11 is implemented. Granted it isnt yet, but it brings to the table more than dx 10 and 10.1, alot more. Surprisingly, AVP implemented it pretty well if you have a good eye.

In all honesty if AMD wants to sell this card along side the 4890, its because they want to phase out the 4890 and make as much money as they can before the 400s come out from Nvidia.

If your buying a card, 5830 is great, if you already have a 4890 (non refundable) dont do it, it woul dbe a much better to grab another 4890 and Cf those.

I had them in CF Temporarily till my 5870 came (they were my friends) and I can tell you that if the drivers are good Ati runs better than Nvidia in multi card, and is more flexible.

The only problem is, ATI's drivers suck overall, and aren't like I remember them from the 9800 and 1800/1900 days. If any1 remembers "Catalyst the most reliable drivers" Even then I used Omega Drivers which aloud overclocking and fine tuning

Anyways good luck!!!

P.S

If your in no rush, wait till march 26, we will see a price shift

 

[andy5174]

People are forgetting the 5830s extra OC headroom, Driver updates and potential when DX 11 is implemented. Granted it isnt yet, but it brings to the table more than dx 10 and 10.1, alot more. Surprisingly, AVP implemented it pretty well if you have a good eye.

You are just ASSUMING that the performance will get better and better just as others assume that a HD5770 will a few months ago. However, it has been a few months now and I still haven't seen any improvement from HD5770 yet.

BTW, I haven't got a new GFX yet but HD4890 will definitely be my choice out of the two if it is still available which it's not.

I should have just bought HD4890 instead of waiting for HD5830. Now I am saving up for the HD5850.

 

[Mousemonkey]

The only problem is, ATI's drivers suck overall

Why is when I say that I get berated and labelled as biased?

 

[sunny9874704905]

keep the HD 4890. it has much better performance..........