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Bios Freezing(MSI 970A-G46)

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January 11, 2013 10:22:02 AM

I just upgraded my motherboard today and was messing around trying to overclock my AMD Phenom II X4 945 and managed to get it to a stable 3.77 Ghz with the memory running at 1337 mhz (cpu was running at 58C with prime95 at 60% fan speed). Took a couple of tries but I got it running perfectly(need to turn the voltage down a hair though) then all of a sudden I keep freezing in the Bios. If I click anything it freezes, and it freezes after 10-20 seconds if I don't do anything at all.

I've cleared the CMOS twice, tested the RAM, and even switched my mouse and keyboard to the USB 3.0 ports. Is it something wrong with the mobo? When I cleared the cmos, I went into the bios, everything was back to the default settings, but then when I ran windows it was back to the overclocked settings.

Any help would be appreciated.


When I cleared the CMOS I moved the jumper over then took out the battery for 10 seconds, put the battery back in, then moved the jumper back over.


Windows runs perfectly fine, prime95 runs great, no overheating(other than AUX reading 87C which I think is the VRM). CPUID HM is showing the 12V thing running at 14.96V, will that hurt anything? and what's the max heat the VRM should be running at?
January 12, 2013 1:41:45 AM

can anyone please help me? I can't even clear the CMOS for some reason... I removed the battery for 10 mins, turned on the computer, went to bios and it was cleared, I try to click on a setting button and it freezes. Turn the computer back off(holding the power button or cutting the power is the only way) then back on and go back to the bios and the settings are right back to the way they were.

If anyone is familiar with the MSI bios(uefi? click bios II? not sure what the official name is tbh), It only freezes when I click one of the buttons on the left or mouse over the boot order. Basically as long as it doesn't change the middle of the GUI I can click it, pop up windows don't affect it(pressing F6, clicking the x, etc). I've tried everything and I "contacted" the MSI support but their fixes din't help.

I've tried several different RAM variants, I've unplugged pretty much everything I could that I don't have to have.
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February 19, 2013 5:40:42 AM

I'm having same issue, I knew I was going to regret going cheap with a msi board. I think only solution here is rma if you can and stay clear of msi in future
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March 1, 2013 1:15:04 PM

Looks like the bios somehow becomes corrupted when pushing board past limits, only way to fix it is by flashing bios in dos with bootable usb. This has happened to me couple times now, if using the clear cmos jumper on every over-oc setting wasn't annoying enough, now ya gotta reflash the damn thing. I didn't realize how spoiled I was with my Crosshair III and its I/O panel clear cmos button to I got this pos board. I wish I had known they took such a nosedive in quality, they used to make quality boards.
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March 2, 2013 6:11:44 PM

Dynthor_96 said:
Looks like the bios somehow becomes corrupted when pushing board past limits, only way to fix it is by flashing bios in dos with bootable usb. This has happened to me couple times now, if using the clear cmos jumper on every over-oc setting wasn't annoying enough, now ya gotta reflash the damn thing. I didn't realize how spoiled I was with my Crosshair III and its I/O panel clear cmos button to I got this pos board. I wish I had known they took such a nosedive in quality, they used to make quality boards.



I was finally able to reflash my bios shortly after my last post and never had that problem again, and I've never had to reset the CMOS like everyone claims to have to do. If my settings are too high it just makes me go back into the bios to fix them or gives me the option to just boot with the previous settings. I've had this happen from OC'ing the CPU too much, the RAM, the North Birdge, and even the FSB(Trying to get > 3.6 GHz out of the Phenon II X4 and run my RAM as close to 1600 as possible.

The only problem I have with this board is the VRM is REALLY hot if you don't have any case fans blowing on it. It was running at 110 C at times before I got some fans. I thought it was gonna go up in flames... Now with a top case fan blowing on it and a back exhaust fan, it's always under 65 C
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March 4, 2013 8:26:01 PM

MSI-970A-G46

I have been checking forums on several different sites including Toms Hardware, Overclockers.net, random sites blah blah and what I have noticed is, everyone is trying to push a cheap board to the limit.. My solution to all of you is simple, the time you spend messing around with the board, you could be making extra money and put that toward a High Performance board which can handle it. Now that we have that out of the way, it's time to start overclocking.
Do not be discouraged while trying to overclock this board, you just have to make sure that you don't push it over the edge. I would avoid overclocking the chipset alltogether and souly concentrate on the CPU. For the price of this Mobo, its overclocking capabilities are really not that bad. I had the HT rasied from 2400-2800, the NB raised from 2000-2600 and I started to notice some issues. The voltages I applied were well under the safe air temperature and I will not reveal the safe voltages because as mentioned, I would avoid most overclocking on this board.

For a budget PC, this board is excellent and allows for a really nice CPU overclock. The safe V-Core(Voltage going directly to your cpu) is 1.5V, and I would not go over that on Air cooling. Our CPU of choice for this clock is an AMD FX 6100 95w at 3.3GHz(stock). Unfortunately this particular motherboard is also iffy about changing the FSB which at stock is 200. I was able to hit 250FSB max before I started to notice issues. The computer was rrunning great for three weeks and then it started to fail.
This board hates being overclocked, but it will still allow you to raise the multiplier and the V-core voltage. I pulled off a clock of 4.35GHz at 1.48Volts. My temps were ridiculous using the Corsair H60 cooler, hitting temps of 65 degrees celcius using prime 95. I decided to lower my clock down to 4.2GHz and see what I could lower my voltage too without having to raise Any other voltage. I was able to hit 4.2GHz on 1.33Volts, with temps of 40 degrees celcius using prime95 completely stable with no issues at all.

Conclusion: This is NOT an overclocking board, you can raise the multiplier and CPU V-Core voltage but that is it. For the price of the board, it is excellent all around for gaming, regular use, whatever. Anyone should be satisfied with a CPU clock of 4.0GHz or higher, you will barely notice an increase in performance past that point on most CPUs. The difference between 100-150MHz is an insane boost in Voltage and heat which isn't worth it. Your CPU will perform its best at cooler temperatues so whether you run 4.0GHZ at 38 degrees or 4.4GHz on 50 degrees, the performance level will be minimal or non existent in most applications.

If you are looking for a computer to game, this motherboard is good option for a budget PC. Most of the resource demands fall on your GPU(video card anyway). Buy cheaper parts but make sure you spend good money on your video card if you want excellent visuals. Do NOT waste your time overclocking this board, you will only destroy it.
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March 13, 2013 9:00:21 PM

phrosted911 said:
MSI-970A-G46

I have been checking forums on several different sites including Toms Hardware, Overclockers.net, random sites blah blah and what I have noticed is, everyone is trying to push a cheap board to the limit.. My solution to all of you is simple, the time you spend messing around with the board, you could be making extra money and put that toward a High Performance board which can handle it. Now that we have that out of the way, it's time to start overclocking.
Do not be discouraged while trying to overclock this board, you just have to make sure that you don't push it over the edge. I would avoid overclocking the chipset alltogether and souly concentrate on the CPU. For the price of this Mobo, its overclocking capabilities are really not that bad. I had the HT rasied from 2400-2800, the NB raised from 2000-2600 and I started to notice some issues. The voltages I applied were well under the safe air temperature and I will not reveal the safe voltages because as mentioned, I would avoid most overclocking on this board.

For a budget PC, this board is excellent and allows for a really nice CPU overclock. The safe V-Core(Voltage going directly to your cpu) is 1.5V, and I would not go over that on Air cooling. Our CPU of choice for this clock is an AMD FX 6100 95w at 3.3GHz(stock). Unfortunately this particular motherboard is also iffy about changing the FSB which at stock is 200. I was able to hit 250FSB max before I started to notice issues. The computer was rrunning great for three weeks and then it started to fail.
This board hates being overclocked, but it will still allow you to raise the multiplier and the V-core voltage. I pulled off a clock of 4.35GHz at 1.48Volts. My temps were ridiculous using the Corsair H60 cooler, hitting temps of 65 degrees celcius using prime 95. I decided to lower my clock down to 4.2GHz and see what I could lower my voltage too without having to raise Any other voltage. I was able to hit 4.2GHz on 1.33Volts, with temps of 40 degrees celcius using prime95 completely stable with no issues at all.

Conclusion: This is NOT an overclocking board, you can raise the multiplier and CPU V-Core voltage but that is it. For the price of the board, it is excellent all around for gaming, regular use, whatever. Anyone should be satisfied with a CPU clock of 4.0GHz or higher, you will barely notice an increase in performance past that point on most CPUs. The difference between 100-150MHz is an insane boost in Voltage and heat which isn't worth it. Your CPU will perform its best at cooler temperatues so whether you run 4.0GHZ at 38 degrees or 4.4GHz on 50 degrees, the performance level will be minimal or non existent in most applications.

If you are looking for a computer to game, this motherboard is good option for a budget PC. Most of the resource demands fall on your GPU(video card anyway). Buy cheaper parts but make sure you spend good money on your video card if you want excellent visuals. Do NOT waste your time overclocking this board, you will only destroy it.



Almost everything you said is a complete lie... This board is really good for overclocking and I have the FSB at 267. I have a phenom II x4 945(locked multiplier) overclocked to 3.9 GHz with no problems. V Core is at 1.45 although I've tested it all the way to 1.6V and had no problems and even temps below 60C on air. I don't really care about overclocking the NB or HT link but they're slightly overclocked as well... couldn't be bothered trying to find the optimal settings.

The only problem I had was when I some how messed up while updating the bios and later fixed it. Ever since then I've seen no benefits from this and a 990 board other than the obvious stuff listed in the specs. This board is more than capable of handling the most extreme overclocks and I doubt you'd be able to push a 990 board much farther than this one. People have been overclocking for years... You really think a mid range board isn't going to be able to do the crap people were doing 15 years ago?

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