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May 20, 2010 6:54:50 AM

Building a rig, but confused by the enormous amount of power supplies in the mid price range, I have a Best Buy that is matching prices with a Microcenter in my area...which is beating the heck out of Newegg at the moment...(Oh the Blasphemy!)..please no stones only beanbags.

I was looking at Corsair and Thermal Take, wanted to hear thoughts on PC Power and Enermax and anything else that I am missing. Major Components are i7-930 which I believe runs at a minimum of 130 watts, ATI 5770 with expansion options to crossfire at a later time (mobo supports it) I want to run about 4-6 sticks of RAM eventually, Caviar Black 1TB w/ options to add a few more later. Not too much glitter and glam maybe a front side audio control with remote control, not sure if I am going to pick up the ASUS BD/Combo Drive or split em between 2 different drives. I am looking to spend between $80 and $140, I don't think I am chintzing out on my components with that range.

One other matter, I need to pick up some RAM any suggestions? Looking to get about 6GB to start off, MOBO handles up to 24 at minimum of 1333. but I am content with 4 GB if the price is right. I know DDR3 is at the high end of cost curve at the moment.

A few things about my computing habits- I am not looking to build a breakneck gaming rig, just all the above mentioned components happened to be really cheap. I like to game, but I am building it to handle graphic and other design needs. I know RAM is important for multitasking operations especially when you break out the CS5 and the AutoCAD.

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May 20, 2010 7:19:23 AM

Seasonic M12 II 620W - $90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
Corsair HX 650W - $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

one of the best regarded PSUs ever. Corsair and Seasonic make one of the highest quality PSUs, Thermal Take (Rough-Power) blows, literally, I would never consider them. also heard good things about PC Power and Enermax however, your best bet are either Corsair/Seasonic.

if you want to spend the most out of your budget then:
Corsair TX850 - $140 ($130 /w MIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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May 20, 2010 12:50:39 PM
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May 20, 2010 1:04:20 PM

In concern to the memory, if you are thinking about doing tri-channel, you need to buy a 3 memory modules pack, so the amount of memory would be 3Gb (3x1gb) or 6Gb (3x2Gb). Gskill is a good brand and the prices are not as higher as the Corsair ones. Here you have some good options:

G.Skill 3x2GB DDR3-2000 F3-16000CL9T-6GBRH Black Ripjaws 9-9-9-27@1.65V
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=237

G.Skill 3x2GB DDR3-1600 F3-12800CL6T-6GBPI Π Black 6-8-6-20@1.6V
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=260

G.Skill 3x2GB DDR3-1600 F3-12800CL8T-6GBRM Blue Ripjaws 8-8-8-21@1.65V
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=235





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May 20, 2010 7:58:14 PM

ksampanna said:
Also you can get any decent 6 GB kit for ~$160-180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Appreciate the quick response- I actually was lured into an Ultra 750W supply at Tigerdirect, I had the Corsair 750ATX ready to go in my cart, threw some G.Skill RAM in there, and at the last minute caught the deal at Tiger. The reviews validated its performance as decent for my needs although the Corsair had 1,000+ compared to 400 but at that number its all minute statistics.
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May 20, 2010 7:58:53 PM

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May 20, 2010 8:04:07 PM

illskematiks said:
Building a rig, but confused by the enormous amount of power supplies in the mid price range, I have a Best Buy that is matching prices with a Microcenter in my area...which is beating the heck out of Newegg at the moment...(Oh the Blasphemy!)..please no stones only beanbags.

I was looking at Corsair and Thermal Take, wanted to hear thoughts on PC Power and Enermax and anything else that I am missing. Major Components are i7-930 which I believe runs at a minimum of 130 watts, ATI 5770 with expansion options to crossfire at a later time (mobo supports it) I want to run about 4-6 sticks of RAM eventually, Caviar Black 1TB w/ options to add a few more later. Not too much glitter and glam maybe a front side audio control with remote control, not sure if I am going to pick up the ASUS BD/Combo Drive or split em between 2 different drives. I am looking to spend between $80 and $140, I don't think I am chintzing out on my components with that range.

One other matter, I need to pick up some RAM any suggestions? Looking to get about 6GB to start off, MOBO handles up to 24 at minimum of 1333. but I am content with 4 GB if the price is right. I know DDR3 is at the high end of cost curve at the moment.

A few things about my computing habits- I am not looking to build a breakneck gaming rig, just all the above mentioned components happened to be really cheap. I like to game, but I am building it to handle graphic and other design needs. I know RAM is important for multitasking operations especially when you break out the CS5 and the AutoCAD.



Thanks for the thorough responses, this website is always my first stop before tough purchases. Unfortunately I forgot to check on my responses this morning, and had the Corsair 750 lined up at Newegg, figured for future upgrades, the power supply would be adequate. Tiger was featuring a deal on a 750 at $60 off with 400+ positive reviews. I chose that based on feedback and some of my own research. Then I checked my Yahoo and saw all the responses. You guys did great, I got some great feedback, and some better websites to research hardware. Much love, thanks again

Eric.
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May 22, 2010 6:18:39 AM

illskematiks said:
That was eye opening, back to the drawing board, chalk that one up to FNG mistake. Thanks for the response.


I going to have to differ here. Referencing a 2+ year old review of the wrong model PSU doesn't prove much. Especially given they didn't even test it.

Ultra PSU have held up respectably to both Hardware Secrets and Johnny guru. Two sites that REALLY test PSU's. They are not the worlds greatest, but they are OK. And they get a lifetime warranty.

Here is a similar ultra model tested by Hardware secrets:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/867/1

Read it carefully. Its MUCH more detailed.
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May 22, 2010 10:15:35 AM

^Uh, hello? Read the rest of review. They tested it thoroughly, and it failed miserably. The Ultra X2 Extreme is infamous for being complete crap. If you didn't know that already it means you haven't been paying attention to PSUs for very long and thinking Hardwaresecrets does better PSU reviews than HardOCP would seem to prove that. Even if you stupidly refuse to believe that HardOCp's reviews are on the level, here's Oklahoma Wolf's(jonnyguru's reviewer) comment on this product:
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1032026729&postcoun...
It's garbage. The End.

And since you seem to have completely missed the point I was making by posting that review, I guess I'll have to draw you a map.
Pictures of the known POS Ultra X2 Extreme 750w:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTIwMTY1...
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTIwMTY1...
Lets see, 2 red wires going past a yellow/gold heatsink, a blue fuse, a yellow x capacitor, a blue y capacitor and a sideways facing coil.

Picture of the Ultra LSP750 that the OP just bought:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...
Look familiar?

The only difference evident is the lack of a voltage selector switch. APFC only costs the OEM about 50 cents per unit to add and that alone wouldn't make it any less awful. The Ultra in the review you posted isn't even remotely similar.

Anyway, since he already ordered it, he can compare for himself when it comes in by looking through the ventilation slots on it. If it's not vastly different from what's pictured he should return it immediately and pick up a known high-quality product like those Henry recommended.

BTW, here's the latest Ultra PSU to be reviewed at jonnyguru:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
5 out of 10 for performace
5 out of 10 for value
Awesome. :sarcastic: 

Yippee-Ki-Yay, Mr.Falcon.
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May 24, 2010 10:08:47 AM

logan the huge said:
^Uh, hello? Read the rest of review. They tested it thoroughly, and it failed miserably. The Ultra X2 Extreme is infamous for being complete crap. If you didn't know that already it means you haven't been paying attention to PSUs for very long and thinking Hardwaresecrets does better PSU reviews than HardOCP would seem to prove that. Even if you stupidly refuse to believe that HardOCp's reviews are on the level, here's Oklahoma Wolf's(jonnyguru's reviewer) comment on this product:
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1032026729&postcoun...
It's garbage. The End.


I misread your review link the first time. My bad. Looks like your review link is about the same quality as Hardware Secrets. Problem is, its not the OP's PSU.

Yes the X2 is famous for being crap. And if this was an X2 that would mean something. ITS NOT.

Oklahoma wolfs review also does not refer to the model in question. He has given positive marks to many Ultra's. In fact, he gives his approval to Andyson build Ultras in your link.

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And since you seem to have completely missed the point I was making by posting that review, I guess I'll have to draw you a map.
Pictures of the known POS Ultra X2 Extreme 750w:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/imag [...] 8xX2wuanBn
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/imag [...] 9sLmpwZw==
Lets see, 2 red wires going past a yellow/gold heatsink, a blue fuse, a yellow x capacitor, a blue y capacitor and a sideways facing coil.

Picture of the Ultra LSP750 that the OP just bought:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] etailspecs
Look familiar?

The only difference evident is the lack of a voltage selector switch. APFC only costs the OEM about 50 cents per unit to add and that alone wouldn't make it any less awful. The Ultra in the review you posted isn't even remotely similar.


Yes I get it. Your saying it looks like a wintec in the picture. Problem is I have multiple sources who say the UL on it traces to Andyson. And Andyson ULtras are good units. That would explain why the user reviews are so strong also.

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BTW, here's the latest Ultra PSU to be reviewed at jonnyguru:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.p [...] 5&reid=174
5 out of 10 for performace
5 out of 10 for value
Awesome. :sarcastic: 

Yippee-Ki-Yay, Mr.Falcon.


Once again, NOT the unit in question. And Oklahoma wolf in that same review states "this unit's performance is in no way indicative of the rest of the product line" Like I said, he has given his nod of approval to many Ultras.



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May 26, 2010 8:28:59 AM

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I misread your review link the first time. My bad. Looks like your review link is about the same quality as Hardware Secrets. Problem is, its not the OP's PSU.

Yes the X2 is famous for being crap. And if this was an X2 that would mean something. ITS NOT.

You're right, it's not the OP's PSU(and I never claimed it was), it just appears to be virtually identical to it. That's a problem.

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Oklahoma wolfs review also does not refer to the model in question.

See final comment.

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He has given positive marks to many Ultra's. In fact, he gives his approval to Andyson build Ultras in your link.

Yes, he has, everyone liked the X3s but after reviews for the X4 1200 at JG and the X4 850/1050 at HardOCP, they seem to have taken a big step backwards.

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Yes I get it. Your saying it looks like a wintec in the picture. Problem is I have multiple sources who say the UL on it traces to Andyson. And Andyson ULtras are good units.

So you trust a label more than your own eyes? The only way the LSP750 isn't a Wintech, is if the picture is not representative of the actual product. If that's the case, then fine, but if you're insisting that what is pictured is based on a genuine Andyson platform, then I'd like you to find me one that looks like that(I wonder if I can grow a beard as long as Billy Gibbons while I wait for this), because thus far you have provided no evidence to support such a claim.

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That would explain why the user reviews are so strong also.

User reviews? On Tigerdirect? :lol:  You do realize that A: Ultra is owned by TD and B: Anyone can post a review(or 20) on TD regardless of whether or not they actually purchased the product.

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Once again, NOT the unit in question. And Oklahoma wolf in that same review states "this unit's performance is in no way indicative of the rest of the product line" Like I said, he has given his nod of approval to many Ultras.

I only posted that review since you implied that Ultras are always getting good reviews from jonnyguru.com. It's about as relevant to the LSP750 as the review you posted, which is to say: not at all. BTW, it seems that Oklahoma Wolf is now being blackballed by Ultra for that review:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showpost.php?p=61701&po...
How nice.
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May 26, 2010 11:02:54 AM

logan the huge said:

You're right, it's not the OP's PSU(and I never claimed it was), it just appears to be virtually identical to it.


You might be right and you might not. I will go with the UL for now. That means Andyson and a good model.

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Irrelevant, but that was before the X4 1200.


Yes it is relevant as the UL traces to Andyson. And if you actually read the X4 1200 review, he is very kind to the Ultra line in general. He just doesn't like that particular model.
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So you trust a label more than your own eyes? The only way the LSP750 isn't a Wintech, is if the picture is not representative of the actual product. If that's the case, then fine, but if you're insisting that what is pictured is based on a genuine Andyson platform, then I'd like you to find me one that looks like that(I wonder if I can grow a beard as long as Billy Gibbons while I wait for this), because thus far you have provided no evidence to support such a claim.


Fair qustion. I trust my eyes...... if I could see it. Looking through the back of a closed PSU in a 2 inch low res picture that may or may not be the unit in question doesn't cut it.

Pending better images, I go with the UL.

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User reviews? On Tigerdirect? :lol:  You do realize that A: Ultra is owned by TD and B: Anyone can post a review(or 20) on TD regardless of whether or not they actually purchased the product.


I sure do. Doesn't mean they are totally worthless. But they do deserve a skeptical eye.
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I only posted that review since you implied that Ultras are always getting good reviews from jonnyguru.com. It's about as relevant to the LSP750 as the review you posted, which is to say: not at all. BTW, it seems that Oklahoma Wolf is now being blackballed by Ultra for that review:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showpost.php?p=61701&po...
How nice.


Look, all I'm saying is that some Ultras are good. I don't use them myself. I don't recommend them. But there are worse units out there.

I do have to admit though, that was a darn good eye. I didn't catch the visual similarity till you mentioned it.
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May 26, 2010 12:43:20 PM

Low res picture or not I can spot a Wintech from a mile away. What's the UL number you have for this thing?
I'll try to figure out exactly whats going on here since things are clearly not adding up if these really have Andyson's UL number on them.
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May 27, 2010 7:30:54 AM

logan the huge said:
Low res picture or not I can spot a Wintech from a mile away. What's the UL number you have for this thing?
I'll try to figure out exactly whats going on here since things are clearly not adding up if these really have Andyson's UL number on them.


I don't have it myself. I ran into a few forum posts while looking for reviews on the OP's unit. At least 2 and maybe 3 people on different boards and at least one was a moderator who seemed to know what he was doing.

That said, it certainly looks like a wintec in the pics.
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May 27, 2010 8:02:43 AM

I sorted it out.

The UL does list Andyson, but acording to johnny guru, the OEM is Yuelin and its a rebadged 550w unit overrated to 750.

That one was trickier than most to track down.
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