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February 28, 2010 8:19:27 AM

Hello,Please tell which graphic should i buy for best results,presently i am running crises warhead on nvudia geforce 9800 ,but cant run on higher settings .My system confg is .M/B Asus p7p55 D -deluxe
Memory OCz DDR31600 3gb
p/S ocz 700 wt modular
Monitort Aoc 2434 Pw 24 HD 1080
CPU i7 860 LGA1156 2.8 ghz
Plesae advise
Thans
Qaslam

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February 28, 2010 8:25:27 AM

ati 5850
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February 28, 2010 8:32:19 AM

Thats easy with no price limit 5970, or if you want single GPU 5870... This could quit possibly change with the release of nvidia's new cards next month though so it might be a good idea to wait for the benches before you choose.
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February 28, 2010 8:42:53 AM

5850 or if you need more fps go with 5870.Depends on your budget
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February 28, 2010 9:29:43 AM

I am looking at a 5850 to replace my GTX 260 or just wait for the GT300's to come out.
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February 28, 2010 9:36:50 AM

z06psi said:
I am looking at a 5850 to replace my GTX 260 or just wait for the GT300's to come out.

The GT300's are already out and have been for some time but as they are OEM cards you will have to buy a prebuilt PC to get one.
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February 28, 2010 11:55:40 AM

z06psi said:
I am looking at a 5850 to replace my GTX 260 or just wait for the GT300's to come out.


THG's GFX Roundups usually end with the statement:

"I don’t recommend upgrading your graphics card unless the replacement card is at least three tiers higher. Otherwise, the upgrade is somewhat parallel and you may not notice a worthwhile difference in performance."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-graphic...

To get the recommended 3 tiers, you'd have to get to a 5970. The 5850 is just one tier up. I'd suggest a bit more of an upgrade, moving up to the 5870 (or the nVidia 400 series equivalent), at least would get you two tiers
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February 28, 2010 12:31:08 PM

Ignore what Jack said. The 3 tier recommendation he mentioned is entirely inappropriate to apply to the upper tiers of the chart. The HD5850 should be over 50% better than your GTX 260 at stock and it OCs like crazy if you bump up the voltage. Certainly a worthy upgrade without even considering the advantages of DX11 and lower power consumption.
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February 28, 2010 10:12:33 PM

Well the reason for the upgrade is I just ordered a 30" dell monitor and not sure if the GTX 260 can handle the 2560x1600 at full settings in CODMW2. If cannot then I will need to upgrade and something under 400.00. And I don't mind overclocking stuff either...LOL
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March 1, 2010 12:03:47 AM

Yeah, you'll definitely want at least the HD5850 for that resolution. Should be pretty nice for that resolution if you manage to get it up to 1ghz+.
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March 1, 2010 1:15:03 AM

I'll give the same weight to the non applicability of 3 tier comment as I do to the alleged impact of power consumption:

nVidia 260 Core 16 = 129 watts
ATI 5850 - 123 watts

(129 - 123) watts x 20 hours a week x 52 weeks per year x $0.10 per kw / (1,000 watts per kw x 0.85) = $0.73 per year

Maybe you can take out a loan :) 

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Well the reason for the upgrade is I just ordered a 30" dell monitor and not sure if the GTX 260 can handle the 2560x1600 at full settings in CODMW2. If cannot then I will need to upgrade and something under 400.00. And I don't mind overclocking stuff either...LOL


As for the 2560 res, the 5850 will be wholly inadequate for 2560 in DX11 .... yes you can read this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-graphic...

Radeon HD 5850 - Exceptional 1920x1200 performance, 2560x1600 in most titles

but the same article also says the same about the 5770

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Radeon HD 5770 - Great 1920x1200 performance in most game


What is left out is the qualifier in both those statements which is "in DX9/10 games"

Once DX11 enters the picture, the 5770 can't maintain 30 fps at 1920 x 1200. I'd grab a 5870 to hold you thru CODMW2 and other DX9/10 titles and then add a 2nd one down the road to handle DX11 when it starts to matter. The one below fits ya $400 limit

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 1, 2010 1:35:44 AM

Did you know that Dirt 2 isn't the only DX11 game? And even if it was acting like it says pretty much anything about theoretical future DX11 performance is inappropriate. Seriously, it's ONE game, with a tacked on poorly optimized implementation of the API. Using to say an HD5770 or HD5870 can't use DX11 at certain resolutions is incredibly short sighted even ignoring the other DX11 games that show the exact opposite.
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March 5, 2010 3:08:50 AM

Can you point me to some links listing other DX11 games used in the reviews....we are kinda like in the 1970s when there was just one or two studies saying "smoking can kill you" .... critics said, it's only 1 or 2 studies.....we know how that turned out.

This is all the info that we have to go on right now and I have to base my opinion on information at hand....not wishful thinking. When there's other games in reviews, I might change my mind, but Dirt2 is all we have to go w/ right now and until then, to be safe, I gotta go w/ 58xx for 1920 x 1200.
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March 5, 2010 3:19:18 AM

I've given you one a few times. You always ignore it. I've seem jyjjy give you a couple before, you also ignore them.

What's the point when you will just continue to ignore them?
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March 5, 2010 3:36:42 AM

Here, let's see if you keep ignoring that DX11 can be faster than DX10 and DX9. Actually, I think it's pretty much universally igknowledge it is, BUT DX11 offers some new advanced visual features which cost FPS.

If they use these features, you will see some DX11 stuff cost you FPS and give you more visual effects.

Some of the new games appear to give you the option of weither you use tessellation, new advanced shadowing features and so on.

Here are two benchmarks that show DX11 improves performance in some games:

Stalker: call of pipyat: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,700136/Stalker-Call-...

Battleforge: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articles.php?articleid=14...

Both games are showing 10-20% increases in FPS in Direct 11 compared to DirectX 10.
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March 5, 2010 9:55:33 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
This is all the info that we have to go on right now and I have to base my opinion on information at hand....not wishful thinking. When there's other games in reviews, I might change my mind, but Dirt2 is all we have to go w/ right now and until then, to be safe, I gotta go w/ 58xx for 1920 x 1200.

Are you kidding? Maybe you've heard of google and if not you should look into it. Suggesting people who have bothered to find out things you don't know are using "wishful" thinking is as arrogant as it is ignorant.
If you are too lazy to look for relevant benchmarks then at least have the decency to explain how limited the data you are using to base your "recommendation" on is rather than stating it like it is a fact. Better yet don't bother people with your uninformed opinion to begin with.
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March 6, 2010 6:46:24 PM

bystander said:
I've given you one a few times. You always ignore it. I've seem jyjjy give you a couple before, you also ignore them.

What's the point when you will just continue to ignore them?


Ya mean like these:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=902&...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=937&...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articles.php?articleid=14...

On DX11 titles.....@ 1920 x 1200 resolution

AvP (Min / Avg / Max fps) 2AA

5770 (21/30/43)
5830 (30/43/63)
5850 (36/49/70)

Dirt2 (Min / Avg / Max fps) 4AA

5770 (15/24/54)
5850 (31/42/70)
5870 (42/52/85)

Battleforge (Min / Avg / Max fps) 4AA

5870 (30/43/62)

Well if the 5870, does 30 as a minimum, then the 5770 certainly can't.....using the ratios from Dirt2, it woulld calculate out to

5770 (11/20/39)
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March 6, 2010 6:57:35 PM

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Are you kidding? Maybe you've heard of google and if not you should look into it. Suggesting people who have bothered to find out things you don't know are using "wishful" thinking is as arrogant as it is ignorant. If you are too lazy to look for relevant benchmarks then at least have the decency to explain how limited the data you are using to base your "recommendation" on is rather than stating it like it is a fact. Better yet don't bother people with your uninformed opinion to begin with.


Lotta words and name calling....no facts, no references.

Limited data ? I have posted benchies on 60% of the DX11 games on the wiki Dx11 list showing "no can do"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX...

Aliens vs. Predator (21 min fps w/ 2AA)
BattleForge (30 min fps w/ 4AA on a 5870 .... rules out 5770 having a shot)
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Dirt 2 (21 min fps w/ 4AA. 29.5 w/ no AA)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat

Links in above message

So if you actually have a reference where it shows the 5770 maintaining a minimum of 30 fps in a DX11 game at full settings....please share.
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March 6, 2010 7:00:53 PM

bystander said:


Battleforge: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articles.php?articleid=14...

Both games are showing 10-20% increases in FPS in Direct 11 compared to DirectX 10.


I have never addressed the issue of DX10 vs DX 11 in and of itself. I am only concerned that the 5770 has yet, as far as I have found, to maintain 30 fps in a DX11 game w/o reducing game settings....closest I have seen is 29.5 w/ AA off in Dirt 2.

Thanks for the links ...thanks being two fold

1. The Stalker one showed improved detail but what I am really looking for is a wlktrhu like this one where you can see how the player interacts w/ surroundings

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/batman_arkham_asylu...

2. Thanks for the link, I now have 3 DX11 games where the 5770 can't maintain 30 fps.
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March 6, 2010 7:51:23 PM

All right, Did he ever say his budget?

Here are the best GPUs at prices, from 100$.

95$:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

150$:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

190$: 2 of the 95$ cards.

300$:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

380$:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

700$:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1400$:

2 of the 700$ vards.

1600$:

4 of the 400$ cards, not that you're mobo can support it.
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March 6, 2010 9:54:11 PM

Here is the thing JackNaylorPE. If you look at benchmarks comparing Dx10 vs Dx11, when the image quality is left the same, DX11 improves performance.

Some new DX11 features, such as tessellation, will put a dent on performance.

So what does that mean? It means that DX11 improves performance. It also means that dev's can add new features to a DX11 title which can hurt your fps (I shouldn't say performance, since image quality is also a performance gain in another sense.)
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March 14, 2010 11:48:17 AM

Best answer selected by qaslam.
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March 14, 2010 12:09:11 PM

If you wish to run NWN don't buy ATI. I give my 4850 ATI a 5/5 as a card and a 1/5 as a legacy game card. I won't be buying an ATI card in the near future again.
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