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October 21, 2011 9:30:14 PM

Hey everyone!

a few quick questions/statements.

I have two new builds in my house and i need to install doze 7 on each of them. I can get windows 7 64 and 32 bit. I just wanted to know if it mattered which OS i installed on either build.

Build 1 specs:
1. AMD A8-3850
2. Gigabyte GA-A75-UD4H FM1 AMD A75
3. OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W
4. G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
5. Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
6. Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB

Build 2 specs:
1.Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
2.ASRock P67 EXTREME4
3.OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W
4. G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (X2) - 8g ram total
5.Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit
6.Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB

Which one should i install the 64bit on?

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a b $ Windows 7
October 21, 2011 9:43:03 PM

go for build 2-- you need it to be able to use all the 8gb of ram--32bit will only let you use about 3.75gb of ram
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October 21, 2011 9:53:28 PM

Go with build 2. Going with Llano only makes sense if you're going to run off the IGP even if it's just initially. Also, just use 64-bit. There is no point in getting the 32-bit now adays except to use on older machines with less than 4GB.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 21, 2011 9:55:58 PM

GO with 64 bit on both --- unless you have some old hardware or software that will not work in a 64 bit setting --- 32 bit is limited to a total of 4GB of system memory (total) so you will only be able to actually use about 3.25GB of RAMonce the reserved system memory and video page files are loaded (because 2^32 == 4GB of addresses for the memory table to be stored in) so even system 1 will be wasting about 1\3 of its installed memory and the 8GB. system is wasting over half of it's installed memory if you go 32 bit.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 21, 2011 10:05:19 PM

I would install win 64bit on both because if you ever want to upgrade the ram on the number one computer you would also have to upgrade the OS then as well.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 21, 2011 10:41:11 PM

32 bit will let you see about 3.5gb max, 64 bit lets you see all of it.
Also, 64 bit is less susceptible to malware and viruses.

Iinstall 64 bit on both.
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October 21, 2011 11:04:42 PM

Thanks for the input guys! i really appreciate it.
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October 21, 2011 11:14:08 PM

i have one more question!:

Since these are both new builds, how should i install the OS? I can get the OS through a program in my school for free. it's called microsoft academic alliance and it's totally legitimate so i'm not pirating or anything lol

See:http://e5.onthehub.com/WebStore/ProductsByMajorVersionL...

anyways. is my best bet to download as an ISO and use poweriso or something of that nature to mount it to a DVD? or can i put it on a flash drive?

What's the best way for me to do this?
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a b $ Windows 7
October 21, 2011 11:24:37 PM

you can extract the iso to either a dvd or a flash drive--i prefer flash drive as its quicker to load and you

dont need to worry about scratching the disk and whether it will read ok on each dvd drive

you do need to make the flash drive bootable though

something like this will do it

http://wintoflash.com/home/en/
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a b $ Windows 7
October 21, 2011 11:43:59 PM

you can extract the iso to either a dvd or a flash drive--i prefer flash drive as its quicker to load and you

dont need to worry about scratching the disk and whether it will read ok on each dvd drive

you do need to make the flash drive bootable though

something like this will do it

http://wintoflash.com/home/en

The best way to do it ^+1


Or http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/install-w...
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October 22, 2011 12:02:42 AM

Thanks guys! i appreciate it!
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October 22, 2011 1:25:17 AM

I watched some of the videos provided by wintoflash and read some text tutorials; however, all tutorials seem to be from dvd to usb. Is it any trickier if i'm downloading it from the internet and will, supposedly, have it as an ISO? are there any different steps or instructions/tips? or will it be self explanatory?
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 1:28:09 AM

When its on the HDD it is the same, just locate the file with program.

Try it and u'll see, its easy.
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October 22, 2011 2:46:51 AM

well i downloaded it and got it on the USB. went to boot from USB and the computer started up, and i started running the install, but ran into a wall quickly.

I'm installing this on a brand new build, i haven't even gone into the BIOS yet (i dont really know how, the asrock p67 is confusing!)
i'm getting a "Where do you want to install windows" screen and i get this error message : "No drives were found. Click Load Driver to provide mass storage driver for instalation"

I know the hdd is spinning inside the case. Any suggestions or solutions?
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October 22, 2011 2:53:36 AM

*Sigh*

I rebooted and hit f11 to enter the boot menu and the ASrock UEFI setup shows these boot devices:
SATA: TSSTcorp DVD
PATA:
USB: Corsair voyager (my flash drive)

So it looks like the hard drive isn't showing up.

Should i just unplug/plug back in the sata data/power cables and try again?
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:06:38 AM

OK, select USB to boot first
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:07:44 AM

Is the SATA drive empty?
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October 22, 2011 3:11:18 AM

i selected usb as boot device and i get the windows is loading files screen>starting windows>install windows>next>install now>setup is starting>agree to terms> upgrade/custom install (custom)> where do you want to install windows? (there's an empty box that says no drives were found..
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October 22, 2011 3:13:15 AM

the PATA slot is empty, but idk what that is.. the SATA slot only shows the DVD drive..
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:16:43 AM

What HDD or SSD drive is used?
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October 22, 2011 3:17:31 AM

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB HDD.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:20:20 AM

And that drive is not showing up?
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October 22, 2011 3:21:08 AM

not at all. just the DVD/cd drive and the usb

but i hear the hdd spinning when the computer turns on
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:22:40 AM

Plug it in to another SATA 2 port
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October 22, 2011 3:33:54 AM

i put the dvd sata connector in a different sata port and i put the sata from the hdd in the port that the dvd drive was previously in. now i don't have the option to go where i want when the computer boots up, it takes me right to the ASROCK UEFI setup utility and doesn't show anything under the boot options section.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:35:57 AM

Are u installing in the AHCI mode?
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:36:52 AM

When u see BIOS post, do u see the HDD listed?
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October 22, 2011 3:38:19 AM

no.. i dont think so. the black boot screen doesn't come up like normal.. it's a screen specific to my motherboard and it gives me the options to go into the configuration, which basically is the BIOS i guess, but it doesn't look like one so im confused..
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:41:02 AM

When it shows "HDD detected" u see nothing?
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October 22, 2011 3:43:23 AM

there's no area where it says "hdd detected" like there usually is. i changed up the sata ports again and i still only see the DVD drive and not the HDD. It's so weird because i can hear the HDD spinning when the computer posts.
looks like this when i hit f11 on startup:

PATA:
SATA: TSSTcorp DVDwBD

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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:47:32 AM

OK, do u have another HDD we can try to plug in and see if it works?
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:56:52 AM

Unplug power cord, clear cmos, unplug the harddisk data cable, wait 5 mins, hook everything back up, load bios in the default setting.
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October 22, 2011 3:58:28 AM

This is what i get before startup:

detected ATA/ATAPI Devices
PRI-Slave0: TSST corp DVD
3rd-Master0:
press f11 for boot menu
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 3:59:34 AM

jpsenior said:
This is what i get before startup:

detected ATA/ATAPI Devices
PRI-Slave0: TSST corp DVD
3rd-Master0:
press f11 for boot menu

OK, do this

"Unplug power cord, clear cmos, unplug the harddisk data cable, wait 5 mins, hook everything back up, load bios in the default setting."
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October 22, 2011 3:59:54 AM

i clear the CMOS through the setup utility right? just resets it to factory defaults?
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 4:00:46 AM

Clear the CMOS Using the Motherboard Jumper
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 4:01:42 AM

And clear the CMOS by removing the CMOS Battery for 5 min.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 4:04:01 AM

Do u have another HDD available?
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October 22, 2011 4:07:04 AM

i only have this hard drive right now.. i have an external with a bunch of random stuff on it though..

My motherboard has a clear CMOS switch, is that alright? i've never dealt with this before. i really appreciate all your help
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 4:10:00 AM

OK clear it and wait a few minutes and than hook it up>start> and see

Make sure, u check the both ends of the sata cables for tight fit.
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October 22, 2011 4:22:53 AM

no difference.. :( 
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October 22, 2011 4:24:19 AM

except for now one of my fans is going slow and clicking. -.- lol
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 4:25:57 AM

Try different SATA cable.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 4:31:42 AM

Do you have AHCI enabled in the BIOS?
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October 22, 2011 4:35:22 AM

new sata, nice and snug, still nothing.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 4:40:23 AM

jpsenior, do you have AHCI enabled in the BIOS?
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October 22, 2011 4:40:29 AM

no, it's IDE.

Marvell SATA3 Operation- NO
Marvell Sata3 Bootable- NO
SATA Mode- IDE mode
SATA Controller 0 - Compatible
SATA controller 1- enabled
HARD Disk S.M.A.R.T - Disabled

Sata_0: not detected
SATA_1: Not Detected
Sata_2: TSSTCorp DVDWBD
Sata_3_ Not Detected
Sata_4_:
SATA_5: Not detected

Thats all the HDD/ SATA info i have
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a b $ Windows 7
October 22, 2011 4:41:30 AM

OK, can u set it to AHCI, that would be one of the last things to do.
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