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March 14, 2010 5:53:17 PM

I have been to this site a lot and forgot about it when I decided to build my own pc so I need some verification on compatibility and suggestions on things I should change. Thanks to anyone who reads this because it's a novel, lol.

I am building my own computer, after going through this guide: http://www.build-gaming-computers.com/custom-gaming-com... I have chosen the components below for my pc. I need some confirmation that this will all be compatible, because I don't know much about computer parts. So please go through the links and point out anything that wont be compatible, or if you have a suggestion that wouldn't require me to change everything and wont cost me much more.

CPU/Processor:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Motherboard:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Computer Memory:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

For this I am getting 3 because, if I am not mistaken I chose a 64-bit cpu and the motherboard holds 8GB on a 64-bit system, and there are 4 slots with a max of 2GB each.

Best Hard Drive:
I had one in mind but all the reviews on it said not to use it as a primary hard drive so... any suggestions? I was hoping for 500GB but I will go up to 640GB.

Gaming Video Card:
The site says this is major important but that there were a lot so I got this off the list they had. I am pretty sure its compatible, but If you guys know better for same price pls suggest!
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Gaming Computer Case: not sure yet, figured I should do this last

Computer Power Supply:
I did this power calculator thing and there were a bunch of drop down boxes i wasn't sure on so when I got a watt score of 569 I thought maybe I'll need more so here is 700watts if you know how much I'll need pls tell me cause I dont wanna waste money over-killing the power supply... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Best DVD Burner:
Wasn't sure what to do, got kinda confused. I chose this one: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

not sure if I need a cd(rom) or dvd(rom) but I just want something that can burn cd's and play/install games off of a disk.

Also got a cooling system for the cpu. I'm not sure If I will need to but i want to be able to overclock (so I can make this pc last that much longer) so I got this cooling system: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
the guy said copper fan was the best, and the quietest so thats it!

This will be able to play any game out by far if I did it right correct? I plan on getting Sims 3, Dragon Age Origins, Civ V, Mass Effect, and I have spore. Don't worry about space if i dont have enough, I will probably not have them all on at the same time, or get an external hard drive.

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March 14, 2010 6:05:48 PM

It appears you on a low budget.

The graphics card is poor, and getting a 775 intel socket would mean you will have to replace the motherboard next time you want to Upgrade.

The ddr2 ram, again, will need replacing as its become obsolete. ddr3 ram is much more future proof.

And no you will not be able to play any game. Probably most at low resolutions (1280x1024) and low detail levels.

Better off to switch to ddr3 ram, and get a i5 or i7. (although these are quite expensive)

thats a cpu water cooler? if so u dont want that. Your better off with a Arctic pro freezer 7 cpu fan

The power supply most people would not recommend and would recommend a corsair, ocz, antec psu.
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March 14, 2010 6:15:36 PM

Whats your budget for this build? What screen resolution do you plan to play games at? Your build leaves quite a bit to be desired, the 9600GT isnt really a gaming card, its at the bottom of the list of what can be used for decent gaming performance.

I would suggest you look into AMD, you can get a better performing build with more longevity for less
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Right now you dont really need more than 4GB of ram if you are primarily gaming, you only need more for heavy video or photo editing. That list comes out $65 cheaper than your before MIR and $55 after MIR

I would suggest getting a 1TB hard drive, it will keep you from having to upgrade it again soon. The F3 is the fastest 1TB drive and isnt as expensive as many others.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Swap the cooler for a basic air cooler like the Hyper 212+, the H50 does not perform much better than a basic air cooler but is significantly more expensive, the hyper actually does extremely well for its price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the case and video card though we definitely need to know your total budget.

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March 14, 2010 6:17:42 PM

Yeah figured that would happen. I'll probably need to find all new components now? Well i guess I could read the guides here on the forum but I calculated the cost without shipping and handling/ tax and it seems I'll end up spending more on all of this than I would on this pc: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/cto.do# which customized is $1,074.97 tax and shipping included. Plus I get tech support. Seems even though I spent all day trying to get a cheap gaming pc I still can't do better than the one professionally made.

thanks for the quick-reply and with my budget i'm right that I can't do much better than I did arent I?

edit: my budget is $1000
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March 14, 2010 6:26:21 PM

That's wrong. I wouldn't build LGA775, but if you can afford a Q9400, then you can afford a Phenom II 965, which is an AM3 processor and will keep you futureproof.

You don't need 1500 dollars to build a gaming rig. It's just not necessary. If you use the build request form, I, as well as a lot of others would be more than happy to set you up a parts list.
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March 14, 2010 6:29:10 PM

I can't edit for some reason, but what obsidian said :) 

A nice futureproof AMD setup seems to be in your reach.
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March 14, 2010 6:31:00 PM

Hmm, thats interesting, well thanx. I guess that guide was outdated/ not a very good source. I will post in the build request forum.
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March 14, 2010 6:31:39 PM

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March 14, 2010 6:49:51 PM

List of components is old stuff.....I would suggest that you:

1. At the top of this page is a SEARCH box.....type in your budget (say $1000) and hit OK button.....you will get a list of links to similar builds in your price range.

2. Read them over, get educated on what goes together.....ie 1366 needs triple channel memory (3 sticks), 1156 needs double channel memory (2 sticks).

3. Post your base build based upon what you have learned.

4. Put in the names of the components, not just links, many peeps won't want to do the clicky think 7-8 times to review your build.

5. Won't be able to recommend components w/o knowing what you wanna build ....gaming rig ?....CAD ? ....Photoshop ?

6. Use the format described here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

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March 14, 2010 7:31:44 PM

I am gonna take a shot at a $1,000 system

Antec 902 / EA-650 PSU Combo $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Combo $375
w/ Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
w/ Free ASUS USB-BT21 USB 2.0 Mini Bluetooth Dongle
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 Model OCZ3P1333LV4GK $85 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX Card - The 9600 GT you listed will do fine at 1650 x 1050 and even 1920 x 1200 in most games w/ lowered detail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Where you go with this is strictly budget dependent. At $100 I'd get this2 slotter:
EVGA 512-P3-1140-TR GeForce GTS 250 512MB $100 after $20 MIR
comes with Nvidia Gift - "Pick Your Poison" Free Game Coupon worth $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The 4850 and 5750 are other choices in this performance category but the 5750 is almost $145 and the 4850 (2 slot) is $130....wth the $50 free game, the net cost of $50 for the GTS 250 is hard to argue with.

Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HSF - Since the buget allows and you gonna OC, for performance and ease of installation, I gonna recommend the Prolimatech Megahalems as ir best fits both criteria. ($65 HS, $7 TIM, $11 for each of the two PWM fans and a $7 Y cable splitter). $100

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Proli...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/thr-41/Innovatio...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10026/fan-639/Scythe_...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8418/cab-150/FrozenCP...

If ya don't wanna spend as much look at the Xigmatek S1283

As the original device you linked to was not a burner, I have listed one which reads DVD's and Blue Ray

Optical Reader w/ Blue Ray - ASUS Black 4X BD-ROM 8X DVD-ROM 32X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model BR-04B2T $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Add $40 if you want to read play Blue Ray movies and write DVD's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Save a few ($43) bucks if Blue Ray don't matter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$985 total w/ Blue Ray Reader and includes a free $50 game.
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