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March 14, 2010 6:30:28 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: by next weekend BUDGET RANGE: < 1,000 After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming (mainly COD2 @ the moment), watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard (USB), mouse (Kensington K64325), monitor (HP L2245W), speakers (Bose), OS (grub: WinXPX64/FC12), HDD

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: tigerdirect.com, newegg.com, amazon.com COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: AMD CPU Phenom II 945, case that can handle sound foam, low-power states on all parts for non-gaming times, liquid cooling for CPU if that's quieter, noise reducing spacers and such, quiet fans, mobo should be able to run with AMD Phenom II e-versions

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080&1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I would like a quiet PC (I couldn't find a recent post with quiet as a focus), the computer needs to be able to run in minimal-power mode when not gaming

The reason I am looking for a new setup is really because of limitations (unknown bottleneck) when playing COD2: I only get 22-30 FPS when others say they run @ 150-250 FPS (same ping) and it could be the monitor. Maybe there's something in the current setup that will boost my system's responsiveness - Xeon, GTX-260 GPU, PSU?

Current setup: Asus P5L-VM 1394, P4 2.93 GHz, NVidia GeForce 6600 GT, 4GB DDR2(?), WD1600JD-22HBB0, WD800JD-60LSA5, HIPRO HP-P3087F3 (300W), Gateway 420GR case

I am havingtrouble deciding what to go with: New/Upgrade/Monitor. The only thing that I have been looking at so far is either replacing CPU, GPU, Monitor, PSU, building new, or going with Alienware Aurora (not AMD & pricy)

Considerations:
GPU (new/upgrade)
If there are no ATI driver issues for linux: XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon $409.99 ( $7.56 shipping)
Otherwise, GTX 260 (don't have a good link)


CPU
Upgrade to current system:
Intel e6850 (not sure where I'll find one)
New system:
AMD CPU comparisons
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz (HDX945FBGIBOX)
but would rather have:
Phenom II X4 910E AM3 2.6G (HD910EOCK4DGM) - don't know anything about this retailer though

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March 14, 2010 6:54:01 PM

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You can turn down the fan speed so the PC will be almost silent, then when you want to game you can turn it back up. Takes about 1/2 second to do so.
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March 14, 2010 6:55:09 PM

Add a 5770 to the above build ... Enjoy Hybrid Graphics.

ASUS has passive heat-pipe chipset cooling on the above board.

This is primarily an HTPC board that will make a good gamer, with a decent GPU and 4GB system ram.

Go for a Dual Channel kit of G.Skill RipJaws (CAS7)DDR3 2x2GB

. . . I'm gonna see if egg has any passive sinks for that "hot" chip.

= Alvin =
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March 14, 2010 8:43:05 PM

whitefang said:
http://i44.tinypic.com/25zrslt.png

You can turn down the fan speed so the PC will be almost silent, then when you want to game you can turn it back up. Takes about 1/2 second to do so.


Thanks for the recommendations. I guess most posts are saying that 5850 OC is just as good as 5870.
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March 14, 2010 8:43:19 PM

Best answer selected by MinorDelay.
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March 14, 2010 8:45:55 PM

Alvin Smith said:
Add a 5770 to the above build ... Enjoy Hybrid Graphics.

ASUS has passive heat-pipe chipset cooling on the above board.

This is primarily an HTPC board that will make a good gamer, with a decent GPU and 4GB system ram.

Go for a Dual Channel kit of G.Skill RipJaws (CAS7)DDR3 2x2GB

. . . I'm gonna see if egg has any passive sinks for that "hot" chip.



I'm going to have to look up what you mean by hybrid graphics.

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March 14, 2010 8:53:47 PM

Any CPU nowadays can be cooled by a giant cooler. i use an passive orochi 1000 in a c2d at 3.8Ghz and it doesnt reach 50 degrees celcius... Maybe a new i5 dual core or quad like a 750 will do the job just fine. I had preference for passive GPU's and i've owned a few. Gigabyte has some. I now run a 5850 also form gigabyte with the ATI design and its quiet so i dont see the need for any quieter. Your PSU should be a quiet one like a corsair hx520. as for the rest i've been running samsung f1 and f3 drives and they are quiet. i use dampning in them so they dont click.
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March 14, 2010 9:38:52 PM

whitefang said:
http://i44.tinypic.com/25zrslt.png

You can turn down the fan speed so the PC will be almost silent, then when you want to game you can turn it back up. Takes about 1/2 second to do so.

Do I really need 750 W for this setup? or is that simply planning for an additional GPU @ some point?
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March 14, 2010 11:26:49 PM

After looking around a little more (now that I had such good reference points), I found that this will most likely fit me the best for a quiet solution.


PSU: Nexus NX-5000 ($99.99: newegg.com) silentpcreview.com
Actual Purchase: Nexus NX-6000 ($119.99: newegg.com) - 630W gives a little more room for CPU hogs
Case: Antec P183 Black Aluminum / Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($149.99: newegg.com)
Actual Purchase: (combo) Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower + XFX GS250XZDFU GeForce GTS 250 1GB ($214.98: newegg.com) silentpcreview.com
CPU: AMD Phenom II 910e ($190.86: provantage.com)
AMD Phenom II 9150e ($122.91: provantage.com) - the 910e actually has the early core(?) that might have issues and require a BIOS patch
HeatSink: Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler ($64.99: newegg.com) silentpcreview.com
Actual Purchase: Noctua NH-U12P ($64.95+free shipping: amazon.com) silentpcreview.com
GPU: POWERCOLOR AX5850 1GBD5-PPDHG Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 CrossFireX ($319.99: newegg.com) silentpcreview.com
went with the tower combo instead because I should be able to SLI that card with my current card
MOBO: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ($149.99: newegg.com)
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) ($109.99: newegg.com)

TOTAL: $1,085.80 $1,027.85
Shipping: $35.53

This is over the budget by more than $100.00, though. Any recommendations on a cheaper GPU?

Also, does anyone know what to look for in order to make sure that the motherboard will actually fit the case?
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March 15, 2010 12:21:45 AM

MinorDelay said:
I'm going to have to look up what you mean by hybrid graphics.


No you won't

Use the ASUS product link I posted (2nd link I posted) ... Scroll down

= Al =
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March 15, 2010 12:28:31 AM

Great Build !!

Very wise to stretch for the 5850 !
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March 15, 2010 1:03:54 AM

Minor why would you go for that setup when the setup I suggested is loads better?

The power supply is crap, Processor is slower and much more expensive. Case isn't all that great (But that's a preference)

If your over budget by $100 and you really need a passive HSF then take off the HSF I suggested and add the one you selected and your total will come to.

$1010.
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March 15, 2010 4:51:27 AM

whitefang said:
Minor why would you go for that setup when the setup I suggested is loads better?

The power supply is crap, Processor is slower and much more expensive. Case isn't all that great (But that's a preference)

If your over budget by $100 and you really need a passive HSF then take off the HSF I suggested and add the one you selected and your total will come to.

$1010.


My Reasoning

PSU: silentpcreview.com suggested this as a solid and extremely quiet PSU. I shouldn't need any more than 500W for the system I'm building (no super-GPU, no RAID, no multi-CPU). The only thing I'm concerned about is the number of connections for case fans not matching the case.
Case: silentpcreview.com suggested it as a good entry-level quiet case that has good internals
CPU: I stated in my first post that I would prefer the e-version from AMD. I don't really care that it's slower when it saves that much energy. Besides, I don't think it's the CPU that's going to be the bottle neck (@ least not till I get a second GPU)
HSF: slientpcreview.com suggested this as the quietest and best HSF
Mobo: the only real diff is that it's got 6gb/s ratings on all SATA connectors (not just 2). Well, it's also got the TURBO! :) 

Your quote, I noticed, also had a lot of things in it that I already have.

I'm actually planning on purchasing the case and PSU first to see if that does anything for my current system (could be that I just don't have enough juice to run the GPU 100%).
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March 16, 2010 4:02:43 PM

I ended up purchasing the Nexus NX-6000 (630W) instead. A little pricier, but it allows me to see if the extra wattage improves anything for my current setup prior to plunging into the more expensive items.

newegg.com $119.99 (+9.65 shipping)

I picked Nexus over other brands because they are WEEE and RoHS compliant - go responsible practices!
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