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March 14, 2010 6:56:24 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week BUDGET RANGE: $1,400-1,800

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Heavy business user. 3-4 screens, stock quotes, multiple simultaneous apps.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

PARTS PREFERENCES: Asus, Intel

OVERCLOCKING: Doubtful SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280x1024

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

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Case/PSU Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $69
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS $79

MOBO ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Intel Core i7-930 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 Quad-Core Desktop Processor - Retail $295
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-577X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail $155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI - Retail $179
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Hello all, I would greatly appreciate some tips and comments on this high end business build that will run Windows 7 64. I run lots of apps, stock quotes, charts, large spreadsheets etc at the same time.


1. Please advise on a SSD. I'm bewildered by these things. I probably need at least 120 GB to be safe. Not sure if I need to pay up for Intel or if there is another choice like OCZ, Corsair
2. I plan to run 3-4 monitors. Can I run 3 from this card or do I need two cards? I haven't used displayport before - it looks like I can run a third monitor from the display port with a DVI adapter but need confirmation.
3. For a non-gamer, do I need to spend $300+ for this mobo. I prefer Asus (previous experience) - Could I get away with the P6T SE or P6T?
4. RAM - will this work for me?


Thanks very much



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March 14, 2010 7:21:07 PM

1. Over kill on the board imo. Get a P6T SE and that should save you some $.

2. If you live near a Microcenter, you can grab it for $200-210.

3. You don't really need a SSD. However, if you must check out the benchmarks here: http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3751&p=...
Also, note depending on how big the software that needs the speed of a SSD, you may be better off with a software RAM disk (say, ~1.5GB). I use this: http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/softwar... . I use it on a 2P system to store HD vids, RAW photos etc while working. This system has a 6GB RAM disk with 24GB of DDR3 so running out of RAM isn't that much of a concern. (Running Server 2008 R2 x64). An SSD can't even come close to the RAM disk speeds. Here a quick bench run on the RAM disk my E2180 rig (see my sig):


4. Haven't really followed DisplayPort standard so can't comment on that. My recommendation would be get 2x ATI 4670s (or similar) and run two LCDs each.
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March 14, 2010 9:33:30 PM

Thanks Shadow, I'll check out the RAM disk.
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March 14, 2010 9:53:57 PM

I have a 256MB Crucial M225 SSD and I love it. It makes the system so much more responsive when lots of application / documents are opened. I like the RAM disk idea too but I am wondering how long it takes to rebuild and populate the RAM disk every time the computer boots up. Also bear in mind that RAM is much more expensive than SSD per GB.
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March 14, 2010 10:01:33 PM

^ Yes, it does take time to save the drive to HDD during shutdown. This isn't much of a problem during start up however. And yes, it is MUCH more expensive per GB than a SSD. However assuming the software isn't that big, you can easily load it up to the RAM drive (~1.5GB RAM drive with 6GB of RAM).

@OP: Mind giving more info on the software side?
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March 14, 2010 11:05:09 PM

Case / PSU - Save $20 w/ this combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Or if ya wanna shake the LED's for more a business looking rig....and add some sound deadening to boot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo - The P6X58D is probably overkill but before you dump this thing, it's a safe bet that USB peripherals will be commonplace, so I won't suggest otherwise since it's the only USB 3 1366 board out just yet. If that doesn't strike ya fancy, then the P6T is fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Though yyou could step up a bit with this combo and save $30 outta the extra $45 the MoBo costs
ASUS P6T LGA w/ i7-930. Only real difference I see though is an extra 2 SATA ports so, the SE looks like the better buy.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GFX Card - The 5770 is overkill for that resolution and you gonna want two cards..... I like shadow's twin 4670 recommendation

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A little more expensive and a step up would be the 9600 GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Two steps up would be the 9800 GT which can be had for the same price as the 4670 after MIR. You'll need to have two monitors on DVI and two on HDMI for this one....and ya gonna need a friend to take advantage of the extra MIR (home and office ?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alternate RAM choice:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heat Sink - If you are not going to overclock, no need for a aftermarket heatsink....stock cooler will be fine.

If you are, the one you selected is fine for moderate OC's.....

Another consideration is that you can fit almost info on two 1920 x 1200 monitors as you can on four 1280 x 1024's.

A 1920 x 1200 monitor in landscape mode surrounded by two 1280 x 1024's in portrait mode also works.
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March 15, 2010 1:15:30 AM

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Another consideration is that you can fit almost info on two 1920 x 1200 monitors as you can on four 1280 x 1024's.

A 1920 x 1200 monitor in landscape mode surrounded by two 1280 x 1024's in portrait mode also works.

Good points. However, having 4x LCDs @1680* 1050 for certain things really do make a difference. Again, this is completely up to OP.
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March 15, 2010 1:19:08 AM

Huge help. I'll study all of your alternative suggestions.
Do I need to check the RAM against the QVL from Asus?
Should I look for CAS latency of 7 or not that important?

Thanks
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March 15, 2010 9:20:36 PM

^ Not really. As long as the RAM is from a top notch producer (Corsair,OCZ,etc) you should be fine. As for latency, that's not a major difference either. The RAM latency doesn't really make a significant impact on real world use.
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March 25, 2010 11:52:56 AM

Best answer selected by dockramer.
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March 25, 2010 11:54:11 AM

Thanks to all. I built the system and the initial results are fantastic.
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March 26, 2010 6:31:24 PM

dockramer said:
Thanks to all. I built the system and the initial results are fantastic.



Hey, looks like I'm building virtually the same system. What RAM & SSD did you end up going with?
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March 27, 2010 7:56:27 PM

mariod505 said:
Hey, looks like I'm building virtually the same system. What RAM & SSD did you end up going with?


I used the G. Skill and the Intel 80 gb SSD


G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231335


Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Retail
Item #: N82E16820167023

Both are performing well. RAM gets a 7.5 on WEI and SSD gets 7.4
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March 27, 2010 8:24:08 PM

could you please get me a picture of the hyper next to the ram on the board
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