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Build Dilemma and help - I5 or I7 and other improvments

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March 14, 2010 10:08:28 PM

It's been years since i was ever involved in anything hardware related so I've spent 2 weeks researching things. So i figure ill ask the audience for help.

I'm building a gaming machine, now ill say money isn't a huge issue, but I'm a very value conscious person.

So here's what I've come up with. I'm not buying from newegg, but the prices i can get them for after rebates. Apologies, i am Canadian so its Canadian prices :D . :bounce: 


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the next month

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, internets

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Peripherals

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.ca

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel other then that go nuts.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

AAAND here we go.

Monitor: ASUS VW246H 24" or the 25.5" with budget
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

CPU: Intel i5-750 - $208.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215&cm_re=i5-750-_-19-115-215-_-Product

MB: Gigabyte P55-UD4P - $169.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128400&cm_re=P55-UD4P-_-13-128-400-_-Product

GPU: HIS Radeon 5770 - $167.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161317&cm_re=5770-_-14-161-317-_-Product

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) - $114.49
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260&Tpk=CMX4GX3M2A1600C

PSU: Corsair 650HX - $90
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012&Tpk=650hx

Puts me at: $751.46
I got a case, i might buy a new one, but that's all personal preference I fine.

Now here's my dilemma.

CPU: I7-930 - $307.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225&Tpk=i7-930

MB: Gigabyte X58A-UD3R - $229.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423&Tpk=GA-X58A-UD3R

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) - $177.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145222&Tpk=TR3X6G1600C9

Rest is the same

Total: $974
Is the extra $222 for the i7 worth it? Percentage wise its about a 30% jump in cost.

I plan to try and overclock the CPU. Also if i do go to the I7 dual GPU will be an option as well or later upgrades.

Budget is around $1000 less is better, monitor is semi incl in this, i can go over if everything is a good deal.

My biggest concern really is like most people upgrade-ability. Is it cheaper to buy a new CPU and MB every year or so, or buy a better MB now that will still support a decent upgrade down the road.

Thanks in advance for all the help,

TheAnyKey

Who stole me name!
March 14, 2010 10:26:58 PM

If you were to follow the How to Ask for New Build Advice sticky, the answers you get might be a little more accurate.

However, if you're just gaming, the i7 is almost certainly not worth it, especially if your budget is about $1000.

Places to improve the build: CAS 7 RAM, like this G.Skill Ripjaws 4 GB kit would be better than the CAS 9 RAM you have selected, for about $10 more.

Depending on the resolution of your monitor, buying a better graphics card would improve your gaming experience more than anything else. If you're willing to spend up to $200 more, instead of buying the i7, you would get a lot more gaming performance out of buying a better graphics card, like this ATI 5850.

Without knowing more about your budget, resolution of your monitor and intended purpose for the machine, that's about all I can tell you right now.
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March 15, 2010 3:01:15 AM

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March 15, 2010 1:20:44 PM

Recommendations stand, then. Assuming your budget is about $1000 and with the Intel requirement, I'd go i5-750 and get a 5850.

It's probably cheaper to buy a somewhat future-proof motherboard, rather than buying a new one along with a new CPU. With that said, you might consider an i7 a slightly more future-proof build, but I don't think it's worth the extra $200 just for that reason alone.

You could get even more bang for your buck by going with an AMD Phenom II processor and if you can find about $100 in savings between processor/mobo, you could get a ATI 5870, which will pretty much max your gaming performance. Furthermore, the AM3 motherboard is the most future-proof option out there right now.

Do you need a case or an OS, or is that already covered? Do you need a hard drive?

The power supply appears to be $130 on newegg right now, this Antec Earthwatts 650 is $90, or $80 with a promo code that expires on 3/16 (Tuesday).

The most recommended hard drive (at the 500 GB size) Seagate 7200.12 for $60. Alternatively, the Samsung Spinpoint F3 and the Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX (technically a 1 TB drive), but the Samsung doesn't appear to be available on newegg.ca right now.
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March 15, 2010 1:40:18 PM

Even when using a 5850 you won't have to worry about bandwidth issues when going XFire on a P55 platform (x8/x8 constraints). The difference is only noticeable in benchmarks, so you won't see any degradation in real world performance (like gaming) unless using higher end cards. Also, you might want to look into a motherboard with SATA III and USB 3.0 capabilities. The ASUS P7P55D-E PRO is a great board for $200, or the GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P at $200 as well. Also, if going with the i5 system, you definitely want to get an aftermarket HSF since the stock cooler for the i5-750 is garbage. The Cooler Master Hyper 212+ is a great cooler for around $30.
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March 15, 2010 3:02:59 PM

u can certainly try out my configuration
bought it one month back
and am seriously loving it !!!!

my configuration is:

asus p7p55d
intel core i5 750
xfx ati 5850
4 gb ddr3
corsair vx550
cooler master hyper 212 plus
20 inch lcd samsung


it runs gr88 and and seriously fast...........
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March 15, 2010 3:05:07 PM

o yes there isnt a single game which i cant run at the higest possible settings with fps more than 60+ ....man i am loving it !!!!!!!!!!
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March 18, 2010 2:19:40 AM

I have battled over the intel and amd thing for a while. I've owned both, and althought for gaming alone amd seems to be better, i do a lot alt tabbing in games and my last intel seemed to handle that better for running a game with a few browsers open and music playing. Though i dont know, is AMD rocking hard enough to not bother spening the cash on intel?
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