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March 15, 2010 3:06:35 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Possibly 2 weeks out.
BUDGET RANGE: 1200-1300 before rebates (but we all know rebates are silly!)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, optical

PREFERRED WEBSITE FOR PARTS: newegg.com
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: ATI-Intel

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe (haven’t over clocked since the days of unlocking the Athlon using the pencil trick, sweat beads where had!)
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Would appreciate any fresh eyes and insights! Always open to suggestions!
Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard – Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU Cooler: possibly stock I feel this build is abit lacking still.
GPU: XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 X2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive: HITACHI Deskstar HD31000 IDK/7K (0S00163) 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Current Cart Price is : 1079.91 with shipping, I have some wiggle room with a little extra cash, I picked those video cards due to the fact that they were the only ones that came with xfire bridges, and the rear cooling exhaust. I am open to converting it to a newer Asus board, and possibly an aftermarket cooling system for the i5-750 since i read its overclocking abilities are pretty amazing, but I'm still weary of overclocking :)  I guess it ain't what it used to be! Thank you for your time!

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March 15, 2010 4:40:35 AM

HD 5850 there is one cheaper one but powercolor is a good ATI chipset manufacturer, then you can get another 5850 when the price goes down. EDIT: this one has a slightly better cooling system too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

try this RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
it has better timings.

also check out this case.
thermaltake v9 $65 after rebate and promotional code also free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


and this combo
i5-750 and P7P55D-E Pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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March 15, 2010 4:43:59 AM

^ You have picked good parts...

But as for that video card, the Closed cooler ones are not that good at cooling...that is the reason why they introduced the open cooler type, which reduces the temps by 4-5 degrees...

HDD - IMO you should get the Samsung F3 1TB...Faster, more efficient...they are back at stock at newegg...

CPU Cooling - NO doubt the CM Hyper 212+

Mobo - Yes change it to that newer PRO board that has onboard USB 3.0 and SATA 6GB/s...

And IMO a single HD 5770 might not be powerful enough for 1080p if you want all eye candies ON...You might want to squeeze one more into that build now itself or switch to the HD 5830...
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March 15, 2010 4:48:47 AM

With that budget one could hit the HD 5870 or at least a HD 5850 really for a gaming rig
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March 15, 2010 5:00:25 AM

+1 on the CM Hyper 212+

+1 on the faster Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB also, otherwise the next best would be the 500gb Seagate 7200.12 (great gaming performance) they are the same price but there is free shipping on the seagate.
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March 15, 2010 6:27:02 AM

Thank you all for your time, from the reviews I read the closed coolers seemed to have abit easier cooling with their exhaust not blowing hot air back into the case? or do i have that backwards with the egg shaped ones from XFX?

Requiemsallure I Will most definitely go with that cpu/mobo combo, and I'll check on some reviews on that case, I do however like the cooler master 690II due to the top hot swap sata loader, because i always end up fixing my friends/family issues :) 
As for the ram Should i consider that ram you linked, being 1333 instead of the 1600 G-skill model? just for the latency timings? or will I not see much of an improvement with 1600 compared to 1333?


gkay09 I will take a look at the HDD as well as the CPU cooler I will try to take a look at the reviews for the different model cards, and there are two 5770's In that build. not sure if you caught that with the statement you made about eye candy :)  tried to include x2 in the wall of text :) 

batuchka I will rebuild my list and take a look at those two cards and their prices, I went for the 5770 with the featured article on this site in fact saying that x2 5770's where the best bang for the buck currently. and with this comparison chart.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

do you think it would be viable to go for the more expensive single 5870 or 5850?

Thank you all so far for your help, I need some fresh eyes :) 
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March 15, 2010 7:24:58 AM

you will not see much of a jump, the other thing you can do since the ram you have selected is cheaper, is you can set the timings on it down to around the same, CL8 would be better. for the 1600 but you should be able to get it down to CL7 through the BIOS if you can do this the RAM would be much better than the 1333, I wasn't sure if you knew how to do that or not.
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March 15, 2010 7:58:31 AM

requiemsallure said:
you will not see much of a jump, the other thing you can do since the ram you have selected is cheaper, is you can set the timings on it down to around the same, CL8 would be better. for the 1600 but you should be able to get it down to CL7 through the BIOS if you can do this the RAM would be much better than the 1333, I wasn't sure if you knew how to do that or not.


I'm unsure how at the time, but I'm sure I could figure it out if the performance was that big of an increase as apposed if changing the clock speeds on the ram would increase the heat-flow etc would i be looking at getting a cooler for the memory as well? as for the case you linked. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


you won't be able to install the cooler-master hyper 212+ without removing the large side panel fan, as well as the lack of cable management holes. although it does look like a good deal but the deal also ends today. Monday the 15th :)  probably won't make my buy till next week or hopefully the end of this week.

This is the fan you were referring to correct? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

thanks again for the feedback!

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March 15, 2010 10:46:23 AM

+1 on the Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Best 7200 rpm drive out right now.

Better memory for just a few bucks more (CL7) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My guess is the HD5870 or 5850 would be your best bet for 1920x1080 resolution. The 5770 doesn't do as well at that resolution.
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March 15, 2010 6:28:27 PM

Misleading title. I wouldn't call $1300 US a budget build! Maybe 10 years ago that might have been...
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March 15, 2010 6:50:37 PM

I had problems with the 5770. I had to RMA it, but thought I would give it one more chance (I plan to crossfire two as well). If it fails again, I will definitely be going with the 5850. You could always get one 5850 now and crossfire another later (I'm sure you thought of that, but threw it out there anyway)!
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March 15, 2010 6:57:26 PM

shaw24 said:
+1 on the Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Best 7200 rpm drive out right now.

Better memory for just a few bucks more (CL7) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My guess is the HD5870 or 5850 would be your best bet for 1920x1080 resolution. The 5770 doesn't do as well at that resolution.


much appreciated on the ram suggestion! didn't even see that selection listed till you linked it, I will take a look at the 5850's and probably sli them at a later date, any suggestions about the manufacturer?
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March 15, 2010 8:07:43 PM

Any recommendations for a power supply? currently have:

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 700 RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also I believe I might change up my video card selection for the 5870 model, But I'm still looking into it.
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March 15, 2010 9:37:24 PM

Best answer selected by aonladar.
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March 15, 2010 11:35:33 PM

yes that was the cooler :)  you are going to need some good thermal paste as well.

if you have any questions just ask.

also if you are looking to get a better graphics card and decide you do not want to spend that much for the 5870 then i still recommend the 5850. it is a great card easy to overclock too, i have mine at 875 core clock and 1250 memory clock, and plan to possibly get another one after the gtx4xx comes out on the 26th or later they may drop in price around that time.

for around $20 more you can get the Cooler Master HAF 922 probably one of the best cases out there right now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this case would normally be about 40 more but it has a promotional code going on for free shipping.
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March 16, 2010 1:24:32 AM

requiemsallure said:
yes that was the cooler :)  you are going to need some good thermal paste as well.

if you have any questions just ask.

also if you are looking to get a better graphics card and decide you do not want to spend that much for the 5870 then i still recommend the 5850. it is a great card easy to overclock too, i have mine at 875 core clock and 1250 memory clock, and plan to possibly get another one after the gtx4xx comes out on the 26th or later they may drop in price around that time.

for around $20 more you can get the Cooler Master HAF 922 probably one of the best cases out there right now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this case would normally be about 40 more but it has a promotional code going on for free shipping.



I'm looking at that case now, and I do like it, the lack of dust filters is rather lame but It might do! I'm looking at the 5850 from XFX and will grab another one in the near future here, this card comes from XFX overclocked abit already.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... how much easier is it to get a different model and overclock it yourself without heating issues?
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March 16, 2010 4:20:17 AM

requiemsallure said:
As far as overclocking goes, its easy and you can do it from the Catalyst Control Center, or the BIOS (haven't messed with it in the bios yet). my card is running stable right now just from the CCC overclock and heat isnt too bad (about 60-65C at load)
http://picasaweb.google.com/101534577321686007105/Uploa...

Diamond is a good brand, and is cheaper with free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Here is everything I have so far not too bad of a build with everyone's help! last couple looks over everything and I should be ready to order here soon.

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March 16, 2010 4:34:56 AM

the only other thing i can add to that is an operating system :p 

do you already have it?

great build :) 
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