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January 18, 2013 5:56:16 AM

Considering getting a GTX 690 to replace my GTX 670 Direct CU II 2GB which i currently have had for last 3 months (will sell on ebay or somthing), reason being currently my card doesnt seem to handle ALL games at Ultra settings in some of the more intense instances (e.g. Arkham city or far cry 3 sometimes dip) and im becoming a bit of an overkill for pc's so im guna be building my own PC when i leave home but currently im running at 1080p i5-3570 CPU but i am thinking of upgrading monitor to 1440p (or 120Hz not sure! :o ) do you think it would be worth upgrading to this awesome Dual GPU as currently im not pleased with the FPS im getting and im going to be making the jump from 1080p-1440p (so going to need even MORE GPU horsepower)

i think i can sell my current card for about £300 on ebay or so and the new card will cost around £700-750

(i rather like the idea of a single card in my future machine which will quite possibly be based in a corsair 800D/900D

All thoughts welcome!

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January 18, 2013 6:05:03 AM

Get another 670.
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January 18, 2013 8:33:44 AM

kieranO said:
Considering getting a GTX 690 to replace my GTX 670 Direct CU II 2GB which i currently have had for last 3 months (will sell on ebay or somthing), reason being currently my card doesnt seem to handle ALL games at Ultra settings in some of the more intense instances (e.g. Arkham city or far cry 3 sometimes dip) and im becoming a bit of an overkill for pc's so im guna be building my own PC when i leave home but currently im running at 1080p i5-3570 CPU but i am thinking of upgrading monitor to 1440p (or 120Hz not sure! :o ) do you think it would be worth upgrading to this awesome Dual GPU as currently im not pleased with the FPS im getting and im going to be making the jump from 1080p-1440p (so going to need even MORE GPU horsepower)

i think i can sell my current card for about £300 on ebay or so and the new card will cost around £700-750

(i rather like the idea of a single card in my future machine which will quite possibly be based in a corsair 800D/900D

All thoughts welcome!


if your dead set on massive performance in a single card, then id recommend not getting the 690 as the next gerenation of cards are not too far off, wait untill the HD8990 or the GTX790, or once these cards are out, get a 690 for cheaper. (if thats what they are called), or, as amuffin said, pick up a second 670
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January 18, 2013 10:43:46 AM

yea thats my main hesitation but i read that nvidia not announcing new gen till Q2 or 3
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January 18, 2013 11:00:36 AM

I have an evga 670, and I am playing far cry 3 on all of the settings on ultra and occasional gets down to 30 fps but no lag. it's hard to recommend another generation of gpu's when we don't really know when it is coming out. I mean if you have money to blow then get the 690. the best route probably is to get another 670 like amuffin suggested.
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January 18, 2013 1:10:26 PM

For price/performance the GTX 690 isn't worth. Get another GTX 670, use the SLI and you will get much better performance that with a single dual-gpu for less price.

Now, when a next generation comes out the previous generations low their prices but and that point you will find that for a little more money or even, same price you can get a new GPU of the last generation with better components and price/performance ratio.
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January 18, 2013 1:46:35 PM

I am inclined to like your plan.

Yes, the GTX690 is very expensive, and probably a bit more than adding a second GTX670.
That is assuming that you already have a sli capable motherboard(GTX690 does not require that)
A 750+ w. PSU, and and better than average case cooling.

As to upcoming GTX7xx and amd 8xxx cards, you can always sell whatever you have in favor of the new card. Usually top end cards resell well.

One thing to consider is the possibility that your 3570 is holding you back. Some games like BF3 multiplayer can be very cpu intensive.
A 3570K with a mild overclock to 4.3 gives you 25% more compute power.

You might want to test how sensitive your game FPS is to cpu power. Reduce the max multiplier by 10% and see if it has any effect.
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January 18, 2013 2:19:44 PM

yea thats my main hesitation but i read that nvidia not announcing new gen till Q2 or 3
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January 18, 2013 2:35:00 PM

ty for all the responses people! geofelt, i cant adjust the multiplier as the CPU is not the K version, btw just some context but i will be moving out of home at end of the year and will be building my own pc with the graphics card (this comp atm is the families) so i will be getting all new components etc and also i was thinking that a 690 will retain is price value more when a new series comes out as its still pretty damn powerful and usually the last in the series to come out so it would still be the single strongest card going... but crap just realised i only have a 650Watt (CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX650 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE) PSU...guessing not big enough for 690 :( 
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January 18, 2013 2:39:04 PM

oh and btw my current mobo doesnt support SLI :/ 
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January 18, 2013 2:49:16 PM

kieranO said:
oh and btw my current mobo doesnt support SLI :/ 


What motherboard do you have?
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January 18, 2013 2:54:39 PM

asus p8z77-M
do you think my power supply would handle the 690 tho?
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January 18, 2013 4:20:01 PM

kieranO said:
asus p8z77-M
do you think my power supply would handle the 690 tho?


I think you are good on the psu.
Read this. http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

As an alternative to reducing the multiplier to test cpu sensitivity, reduce the resolution and eye candy.
If the cpu is strong enough, it will drive your game to higher fps.
If not, the cpu may be a limiter.
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January 18, 2013 4:23:53 PM

nVidia claims that a GTX 690 needs a 650W PSU or better for work, but I think that your TX650W can handle the rig without problems.
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January 18, 2013 5:34:08 PM

saint19 said:
nVidia claims that a GTX 690 needs a 650W PSU or better for work, but I think that your TX650W can handle the rig without problems.


The EVGA spec sheet requires a psu with 32A on the +12v rails and two 8 pin pci-e power connectors:
http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/04G-P4-2690.pdf

The TX650 has two 6+2 pin power connectors and can deliver 53 a.
They say 650W to take care of cheap psu's, not a quality unit like Corsair.
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January 18, 2013 5:35:15 PM

geofelt said:
I think you are good on the psu.
Read this. http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

As an alternative to reducing the multiplier to test cpu sensitivity, reduce the resolution and eye candy.
If the cpu is strong enough, it will drive your game to higher fps.
If not, the cpu may be a limiter.

thanks i had checked that site just b4 looking at this i juts wanted to double check on it however...looking at some reviews many people claim that 2x680s is cheaper and better performance than a 690(altho only marginally like 4 fps or so from what i seen and thats not visibly noticeable) however its way mroe power usage so wont have a big enough supply for that
but also for me in the uk VAT and crap stuff like that means i can find 690 for £750 but almost all 680s are £400 so ill end up paying more for marginal extra performance and i wont be able to get the extra performance till i start my new build later in the year...hmm think ill go for the 690 guys only issue now is air flow but i got alot of fans and stuff so shud be good i hope the heat will exhaust downwards and all thats down below is the PSU my hard drives are safely tucked far away
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January 18, 2013 5:43:30 PM

kieranO said:
thanks i had checked that site just b4 looking at this i juts wanted to double check on it however...looking at some reviews many people claim that 2x680s is cheaper and better performance than a 690(altho only marginally like 4 fps or so from what i seen and thats not visibly noticeable) however its way mroe power usage so wont have a big enough supply for that
but also for me in the uk VAT and crap stuff like that means i can find 690 for £750 but almost all 680s are £400 so ill end up paying more for marginal extra performance and i wont be able to get the extra performance till i start my new build later in the year...hmm think ill go for the 690 guys only issue now is air flow but i got alot of fans and stuff so shud be good i hope the heat will exhaust downwards and all thats down below is the PSU my hard drives are safely tucked far away


Also, for sli gtx680 you would need a sli capable motherboard, adding to the expense by changing out a motherboard.
And... while some M-ATX motherboards can accomodate two dual slot graphics cards, their close proximity will make the top card run hot.

I really doubt that airflow will be a problem if your current card is running
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January 18, 2013 7:14:37 PM

uhh sorry i just wana check that i conveyed my question properly, i wont have a M-ATX mobo in my new build when i have the 1440p monitor which i will be building at the end of the year when i move out of my family home, currently i just want a single card to run before i move away (australia) and do my own build, so the comp i will be building which will be top of the line will not have an M-ATX board but probably somthing along the liones of a ASUS rampage or somthing like that if you know what i mean but im getting sorta worried by people saying the 690 expelling heat into the case now :/  my current case is a corsair storm trooper may just hold onto the 670 till im ready to leave then see how the 700 series is looking as im sure it will be out (price of 600s down too i bet) JUST WORRYING THAT THE 690 EXHAUSTS HEAT INSIDE THE CASE
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January 18, 2013 7:25:57 PM

kieranO said:
uhh sorry i just wana check that i conveyed my question properly, i wont have a M-ATX mobo in my new build when i have the 1440p monitor which i will be building at the end of the year when i move out of my family home, currently i just want a single card to run before i move away (australia) and do my own build, so the comp i will be building which will be top of the line will not have an M-ATX board but probably somthing along the liones of a ASUS rampage or somthing like that if you know what i mean but im getting sorta worried by people saying the 690 expelling heat into the case now :/  my current case is a corsair storm trooper may just hold onto the 670 till im ready to leave then see how the 700 series is looking as im sure it will be out (price of 600s down too i bet) JUST WORRYING THAT THE 690 EXHAUSTS HEAT INSIDE THE CASE



Your case has great cooling. Two 120mm intake fans is all you need. But, That is just theoretical from me, and I do not own a GTX690.
I suggest you read the reviews from verified owners on newegg,
Here is the link to the evga version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And, for what it is worth, the size of the case has little to do with cooling. It is all about airflow.
I have a GTX680 in a silverstone TJ-08E M-ATX case I needed a short case.
It runs silent with only the 180mm intake fan on low and undervolted. I found no need for the optional 120mm exhaust fan.
I would not hesitate to install a GTX690 in it if I needed more graphics power.


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January 19, 2013 11:33:37 AM

thank you very much good sir (bows imaginery hat to you)
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January 21, 2013 4:51:32 PM

select best answer, please.
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January 21, 2013 5:01:24 PM

i dont have an option to select best answer :/ 
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January 21, 2013 6:11:11 PM

Discussion thread...
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February 6, 2013 2:39:04 PM

Changed to question, now you can select the best answer.
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February 6, 2013 3:12:30 PM

Best answer selected by kieranO.
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