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March 2, 2010 3:04:33 AM

Ok so here was ATI with nothing to offer at the $200 - $230 level, with the 5770 performing less than a 4870 and way lower than a 4890 its price of $160 - $170, made some people think about it before getting one, I know I did, and with the 5850 costing $300+ it was just not an option to some in a budget.

so ATI decide to come up with a 5830 to fill this gap, and what I hope it was gonna be a great card turns out to dissapoint me, as the review i read http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-5830-review/
now this card that i hope to be close to a 5850 is actually closer to a 5770 but consumes more power than neither, and its bigger than both, now ATI did something wrong here because now any of us is recommending it, so is this card as bad? I havent been able to find a crossfire review how does it scale? does the $200 mark still have a gap? does still more sense on saving money and getting a 5770?

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March 2, 2010 3:44:46 AM

For the 4-11 fps gain.. no. I say 4-11 because I was checking over the games that they had benchmarked on and calculated the max and minimum fps gains. You would rather just get a 5770 and overclock it to get almost identical performance and with the benefit of less power consumption (BY THREE MILES).
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March 2, 2010 3:48:22 AM

arcticking said:
For the 4-11 fps gain.. no. I say 4-11 because I was checking over the games that they had benchmarked on and calculated the max and minimum fps gains. You would rather just get a 5770 and overclock it to get almost identical performance and with the benefit of less power consumption (BY THREE MILES).


yeah, that's what i was thinking, but I still believe ATI can compensate with a driver support, lets not forget that the benchmark there were using was done with the stock clocks of the 5830,I dont know how good does it overclock though as the card runs so hot, I just dont see how is this card performing so bad?
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March 2, 2010 3:59:58 AM

Ive read that many agree that the lack of ROPs is holding the 5830 back. Anyway for the price ($240+ newegg) it is just to expensive for the performance boost, $210-220 would seem a bit more reasonable for the performance. I do agree that maybe the next few driver releases will improve its performance a little.

Just did some quick math, newegg has many (sold out) 5850s for $310 (at least I would not pay more than that for one.) while 5770s are at mostly $170, so (310+170)/2= $240 even. Right smack dab in the middle according to those prices. Edit: said it equaled 140 :) 
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March 2, 2010 4:12:16 AM

I believe ATI is missing a important level, the $200 - $230 mark its really important, when i bough my HIS 4890 on sell for $199.00 free shipping it was like heaven, because this was a card that meet the price performance sweat spot, now the 4890 have dissapear of the shelves and we are left with a tremendous gap, i think the smarter choice is the 5850 that will offer you better performance than any pass cards and then probably crossfiring later down the road, just my 2 cents, I honestly dont see why upgrade using a 5770 if its slower than a 4870, and paying more because it offers DX11 that its not even worth because a 5770 perform even worst at dx11 tittles, the only thing that ATI got right with the 5770 is that it scales beutifull in crossfirex
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March 2, 2010 4:53:43 AM

I recall that when the 4890 debuted at a pretty high price point ($250/270'ish), reviewers felt that the 4870 was the better purchase. It's not like the 4890 was always a $199 card.

It was only after a price cut or two that the 4890 became the popular card to buy for price/performance. So while the 5830 isn't looked upon too kindly, I do think that when ATI cuts the 5830's price, it'll become a really popular card for enthusiasts much like the 4890,
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March 2, 2010 5:08:32 AM

Lest just wait for Nvidia to release a good line of products for some competition, prices of ATI cards will not stay like that for very long, i just saw a 512mb version of the 5770 from PowerColor for 134.99$ after MIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... looks crappy but its super cheap. Prices will go down eventually.
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