Hello All!

This is my first time posting on the Toms hardwares forums :) So ill introduce myself My name is Jeremy i am 25. I am not really looking to overclock much but to have a good system for a good price.

MSI 870A-G54

Not sure about the lack of the Northbridge Multiplier If this has much to do with me sense i will not be overclocking. But I thought i read someplace if i want to unlock extra cores I need this, what are the benefits of this. I am mainly a gamer, programmer. I read that games don't need but the 2 cores so is this necessary ?
Which one would be the best for me in you all's opinion

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Callisto 3.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor
(doesnt come with heatsink/fan ) :( " any more suggestions for CPUS ? "

I know one has more L3 Cache and one 95w vs 80w But on other hand one has larger l2 capabilities. can someone in brief detail tell me which i want bigger for performance in gaming?

If I have no need to unlock my extra cores will this mobo do? If not can i have some suggestions for a mobo in the same price range ( 100$ usd ) Also I am interested in doing some overclocking so if you could point me in the direction also for one thats in the same price range.

Thanks guys in advance! I dont need a onboard video chip set i have a GTX460 so if i choose a mobo with one would this hurt me ?

Thanks again!

I hope this is understandable.
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  1. Instead of the AMD Phenom II X2 550 I'd like to suggest the 555BE.... prices shouldn't be that much different and then there's 80% chance that you could open the 2Cores on that chip... making it a Quad core fully functional one.... and for gaming that'll be a real boost.
    Yes, these boards are known to be capable of unlocking cores.
    No, a board with an IGP won't hurt you since you are into experimenting, I think it'd be a good thing to have the IGP just in case something goes wrong during an OC session or core unlocking session...

    PST: I think the links you've pasted are all bad... redo them if possible....
  2. Thanks and sorry!
  3. Yeah i have the CPU in mind. what about the 125w deal. Wont it get hot with not an aftermarket cooler. Thats more money :o
    Overall That seems to be a good MOBO.

    What are you guys opinion on it ? Just asking around no harm in that :)

    I am looking at the cas latency Its lower on the G.Skills does this make this ram better ? I am also concerned about the Kingston fitting behind my hd's, id have to get the ones without the extra teeth Please give me some input on these :)

    You guys are great!
  5. AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 125w
    Asus M4A87TD/USB3 Socket AM3 870 Motherboard
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

    I believe this will be my new setup. I have a question though Has anyone had any problems dealing with Micro center ? They have a package deal im thinking of using I have been faithful to NewEgg dew to the customer care. I have been given 100$ worth of gift cards dew to one issue so i know they will resolve anything I need done!

    Please Give me some pointers here guys!!

    Another thing if im not going to be overclocking. Do i need a aftermarket CPU Heatsink/Fan ? After i get some more Money i will get one so i can overclock.
  6. No, if you're not going to overclock the processor you're not going to need an aftermarket cooler, the one included in the package does a good job, though it's loud without the quiet & cool on , so it's always good to have the cooling profile to silent and have the quiet & cool on.
    With the 965 if you were to overclock to 3.6.or 3.8 you'd still not be in a need for an aftermarket cooler if the ambient temps of the room are in the 20 - 25 range.
    But if the ambient temps are high, and you plan to go higher than 3.6 than using an aftermarket cooler would be a better way to go.
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