PanicMaster85

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OK so here is my current build(loop) that will cool my overclocked 3570k

Radiator
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067LW8RY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A28CFGAEH1L7HN

tubing
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A0Q8SJE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A15YNZR7YB053N

barb fittings
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006QMGINY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AELLOY6K8XB8X

fan splitters
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067LWQ1C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A18K25N425Y52T

Pump Reservoir Combo
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A42X2KY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1S9W9A986D3KF

CPU Block
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T01B54/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JR0YCXC6EG04

and push/pull configuration fans
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q6RUVO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2F13KK758WMXQ

the total with shipping will cost over $300 which I mean i'm fine with spending if it will really be worth my while...

here is my predicament, I have a gtx 670 right now and plan on getting another, If i were to put the 300 i would spend to get the water cooling for my cpu then i would be around 60 more or less away from getting another 670. I have a "tight budget" becuase im only 15 and am unable to get a real job so instead i work around the house and get money very slowly so 300 dollars can take me about 2 months(or more) to accumulate(which is in all cencerity is very good for just cleaning my house etc etc) basically is the water cooling worth it? or should i just hold off and get another 670 instead? I am CRAZY about fps i mean anything below 60 even when im at 60 in bf3 and my gpu usage is at 99% i get worried(anxiety and paranoia) so really increased frames are good but i'm not sure just wanted someone elses input on this.

any input is great help :D
 

PanicMaster85

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Oh ok, thank i will look at that... also yeah i read your post in my other thread(sorry for making so many I am getting used to this part of toms) and i have read the sticky many times so yeah just was posting those questions periodically
 

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Well we all have different wants and needs, so it will likely be best to go with whichever option will provide you with the most satisfaction.

On another note I'm not sure if I've seen your build(s) over in the member system gallery. Do you have pics up there yet? If not I'd like to see them, it's one of my favorite threads.
 

PanicMaster85

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ok if you can please tell me how to do this I have pictures though my build is anything but exciting I still have WAYS to go before I get a cool looking machine... this includes sli 670, water cooling, more lighting, new case, and better cable managment(new case)... but after this you still want to see my terrible build then just tell me where and how and i will post
 

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Here is where you will want to post pics:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tomshardwareus.inc&cat=31&post=310222&page=1&p=1&sondage=0&owntopic=1&trash=0&trash_post=0&print=0&numreponse=0&quote_only=0&new=0&nojs=0

Just use photobucket or some similar photo uploading site such as imageshack

Don't worry about having a "cool" looking machine, a good looking machine should be a priority first. My best advice here is, make what you have look the very best you can! You'd be surprised the amount of work you can put into hiding cables.

Be prepared to catch some gripe if your cable management isn't up to par...Take a look at my update log if you want to know how my building started off:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tomshardwareus.inc&cat=29&post=282438&page=1&p=1&sondage=0&owntopic=1&trash=0&trash_post=0&print=0&numreponse=0&quote_only=0&new=0&nojs=0
 

rubix_1011

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I built a rig a month ago with a 3770k and a single 670...runs everything in BF3 on ultra and looks wonderful. No need for SLI unless you want to spend 2x 670 for it...and if you did that, why not just a single 680 or 690?
 

PanicMaster85

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well a single 680 i have the same performance as it(with my overclock) but the thing is that I am paranoid about FPS and I also play it ultra with it smooth... but the thing is that that meter really makes me nervous so really if i can hit 60 flat fps with like 50% usage(because one 670 can hit that) then i would rather do that, though if it wont get me that then i would rather have a cooler looking build/temps

also the 690 is 1,000 too much for me
 

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SLI isn't a linear performance increase so if one 670 is maxed at 60fps, two isn't necessarily gonna get you 60 frames at 50% usage.

If the meter gets to you just shut it off, it's more likely that staring at that meter is having more of a negative effect on your gaming experience than any fps drop that you might experience.
 

rubix_1011

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A single 670 vs. a single 680 is really a close call between the two. I still think those are better options than dropping $700+ on SLI 670's when a single would do the trick. Heck, my SLI 560Ti's run everything on Ultra with motion blur turned off.

You say you currently have a 670...what frame rates ARE you seeing at what resolution? You said Ultra settings...what CPU are you running? How much RAM? All I know is the rig I built runs BF3 smooth as butter. I really could care less what frame rates are as long as it looks really good and is smooth. Anything over 40fps is going to be harder and harder to tell.

Why are you stuck on this '60 fps' barrier? I know that some games come software limited to a ceiling of 50-60 fps, but can sometimes be removed with a setting. I don't necessarily know BF3 is one of them, but someone else might know for sure.
 
What is your display setup like? Because if its just a single 1080p 60hz monitor, then it is not worth getting another card in SLI.
Quite simply that 670 will be getting at least 50FPS in modern games everything maxed out, adding in another card will only net you a 10FPS increase because of V-Sync.

Need a decent display setup (so Eyefinity/Surround, a 120hz or 2560x1440) before Crossfire/SLI is worth it at the high end.
 

PanicMaster85

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well i was just saying, what do you think it would be? maybe a 80% increase?
 

PanicMaster85

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I am seeing around 40-60 some times lower when im in a tank and fighting another tank up close or a heli is attacking me really when ever there is A LOT of chaos

well I have a 60hz monitor so anything above 60 makes my rip tear which is what i hate!
 

PanicMaster85

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yeah i see what you mean but i will need this system for a while(like two more years) and I would like to continue playing games maxed also i may get eyefinity