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November 15, 2010 7:31:48 PM

Hello- I am seeking some advice and recommendations on an ASUS mobo for an upgrade to a Windows XP Pro 32bit app. I am pretty well set on the AMD Phenom II X4 965 cpu and the mobo has to be as follows:
1) microATX form
2) clockable w/unlocker
3) 890FX chipset
4) 16GB RAM capable (for future upgrade to W7 64bit)
5) Dual channel
6) HDMI ready onboard video (hopefully!?)
7) Support my 2 IDE Lite On opti-drives
I'll install 2x2gb RAM for the XP 32bit for now, and probably only see 3gb or a tad less.
Please advise, without initiating a debate about my intentions. It's just my XP machine and I am in the process of building a system around the Windows 7 Ultimate Full OS.
What I do on my 'puter's is of no concern to this posting. I just need help finding the mobo. I am trying not to get into a situation where I have to buy expensive video cards and what have you, although I do want to be able to get the most from my WSHD monitor.
Hey, you guys, thanks a bunch! Peace!
TimW

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November 15, 2010 8:00:16 PM

ASUS does not make a MicroATX motherboard using the 890FX chipset, I don't think anyone does. Also, 890FX lacks a GPU on the chipset, so you can't have HDMI output onboard anyway, with 890FX, you HAVE to buy a GPU (though not necessarily an expensive one).

If you want ASUS, You will be limited to the 880G chipset for microATX. They make two 880G models:

The M4A88TD-M http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=dCFJVtaiZVk1PJCL&templete=2 and the
M4A88TD-M/USB3 http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=Ta95CVPnAzVDwMyG&templete=2

Both come with HDMI, Turbo O.C. for unlocking/overclocking, 4 slots for up to 16GB dual-channel DDR3 memory, and a legacy IDE port for 2 IDE devices (master/slave).

If you want microATX 890GX (not FX, GX), you can go with other manufactures, like these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=890gx+microatx&x=0&y=0.

However, all the 890GX buys you is the capability for Crossfire Support, buy if you don't want to buy discrete GPU cards (much less two of them), you don't need the 890GX. Still, you don't want me prying into what you plan to do with it, so if you need 2xPCIex16 slots, you can get this MSI board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130269&cm_re=890gx_microatx-_-13-130-269-_-Product. It also comes with 1 IDE port (for 2 devices), 4 slots for up to 16GB of dual-channel memory, HDMI output, and Unlocking/overclocking utilities in the microATX form factor.

Good luck.
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November 15, 2010 8:31:13 PM

ANS = None; the 890FX doesn't support on-board video.

Otherwise ^ I agree with above.
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November 15, 2010 10:25:54 PM

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November 15, 2010 10:42:20 PM

Thanks, Hellwig- I agree with and understand what you mean. I have a decent VC now, but it's a PCI (GS8400). Most of the ASUS mobo's will support 2 IDE's via 1 header. I have always sorta liked ASUS boards. So, out of the boards you've mentioned which do you recommend?...I do not need 2xPCIex16 slots. Is the MSI a quality piece? I just want the usage of my HDWS monitor. The pkg. I was looking at is from PortaTech. It includes the BE CPU and comes with the ASUS M4N68T-M mobo. I was going to do the $49 upgrade, though. (Please see link below) It has the unlocker feature. I can install VC to support my monitor. Let me know if I'm on the right track, please. Thanks for your input!

Link: http://www.portatech.com/catalog/viewitem.asp?ID=25354&...
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November 15, 2010 11:33:14 PM

If I was going with one of the ASUS boards I listed, I'd probably go with the M4A88TD-M/USB3 (which has USB 3.0 for the future). MSI is also a good brand, that 890GXM-G65 I listed wouldn't be a bad-buy either (also USB 3.0).

For the $40 upgrade listed on that website, you get a 785G chipset with a SB710 southbridge. The SB710 doesn't support RAID-5 (the 800-series all come with a SB750 which does). However, that only matters if you want RAID-5. The Asus M4A785-M (the $40 upgrade) also uses DDR2 instead of DDR3. You won't notice much of a performance difference, but upgradeability will get harder and more expensive as the world moves to DDR3. Still, if the price is right it wouldn't be a bad computer.

I would personally go a little more future proof (I also don't mind handling assembly on my own). I would get the Phenom II 965 and the M4A88TD-M/USB3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660&cm_re=ASUS_880g-_-13-131-660-_-Product). It has USB3.0, SATA 6Gbps, DDR3, and is advertised with its unlocking and overclocking possibilities. It probably wouldn't be much more expensive either.
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November 16, 2010 12:39:57 AM

Thanks, Hellwig!...the M4A88TD-M/USB3 it is. That will be the last I put into this XP machine. I have a brand new WD Velociraptor that's going in, too. In fact, I have a few of them I picked up REAL cheap!....With the new build I'm trying to lay out, I was going to run 2 of them in a RAID format- still looking at SSD's, though.
By the way, for the record, the only reason I didn't post what the intentions for the XP machine were was because the 'ya shoulda-coulda-oughta' bs tends to present itself in these online forums. I know where I'm going and that's all that matters. It wasn't to snub anyone. Thanks for all your help!
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November 16, 2010 12:49:47 AM

Wooops! I don't believe that board's form factor is mATX!...matter of fact I can't even find it at newegg.com
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November 16, 2010 6:26:11 PM

The M4A88TD-M/USB3? Its Newegg Item N82E16813131660. Here's the link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660&cm_re=ASUS_880g-_-13-131-660-_-Product. It is a microATX board, but they have a full ATX variant with a similar name.

edit: Ah,I see the issue, its listed as M4A88T-M/USB3 on Newegg (no D). The model on Newegg uses a SB710 instead of an SB750 (must be an older model). Still, it only lacks RAID5 (and you need at least 3 drives for RAID 5 anyway). Since with 2 drives your only options are RAID 0, 1, or JBOD (which the SB710 DOES support), I don't really forsee any issues. It's got all the other features of the 'D' model.

Here is the 'D' model: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131654&cm_re=M4A88T-_-13-131-654-_-Product. HOWEVER, Newegg says it can only be purchased as part of a combo, not sure what's going on there. Since you probably don't want the other parts in the Combo, I'd just go with the non-D variant I linked to first.
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