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Ati HD 4650 for Acer M5100 ?

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March 3, 2010 12:45:53 PM

Hi,

I'm helping my sister upgrade her Acer M5100 onboard video. I will open her comp and take a peak first to confirm that the PSU is in fact only 250W, if we don't replace the PSU then a VC that does not require extra power from the PSU is needed.

Is this card going to work in a 1 PCI Express® x16 slot ?

SAPPHIRE 100253HDMI Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 dual-core processor
3Gbs Memory
ATI Radeon X1250 [Display adapter]
ACR Acer P191W [Monitor]

1 PCI Express® x16 slot
1 PCI Express® x1 slot
2 PCI v2.3 (5 V) slots

Industry Standard 250 Watt

Note: HD has a partion...WHY ???
c: (NTFS on drive 0) 244.96 GB 177.25 GB free
d: (NTFS on drive 0) 244.67 GB 244.57 GB free

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Thank you for any help on this :) 

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a c 235 U Graphics card
March 3, 2010 5:34:48 PM

the card will work with the slot but not that PSU

you would need to drop down to a 4550
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a b U Graphics card
March 3, 2010 6:33:43 PM

^+1 The PSU is pretty weak. It might work, but it wouldnt really be safe.

I would suggest you try the 4550 or the 5450 (newer model).
(Its possible you could get away with a much better 5570--but I dont think you want to spend $80 on an old system like this.)

Relative comparison:


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March 3, 2010 7:24:10 PM

Hi,

The new Radeon HD 5450 has only 64bit w/power draw of 38, compared to the HD4650 128bit w/power draw of 63...this might explain the Power difference?

PSU's are so cheap these days avg. $40.00 I will recommend a PSU + VC. WoW that is under $100 for a major upgrade :) 

Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V V2.2 Intel Core i7 Compliant Dual 80mm Fans Full Cable Sleevings Power Supply - Retail...$36.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory 3Gbs, since this is a 2 core system & dual memory does that mean that the 3rd 1Gb of memory is wasted?
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a b U Graphics card
March 3, 2010 7:38:01 PM

Hey Jim,

There are better power supplies you can get for near that price. (although that one is ok) Generally, the most reliable power supply manufacturers are Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, and OCZ.

this one is very efficient and cool:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you are looking for a video card in the $70 range to go with the power supply a 4670 would be a more powerful selection. (although you still haven't told us what she will be using it for?)

The 3 gb will be used, but memory is always better in matching pairs (1x1x1x1) or (2x2)
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March 3, 2010 9:37:10 PM

Hi,

She is a Gamer, plays Knight online a free MMORPG:

http://knightonlineworld.gamersfirst.com/requirements.p...

I like the OCZ I have the 700W: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Retail
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a b U Graphics card
March 4, 2010 12:39:17 AM

Well, the 4670 is probably the best thing you can afford while staying near the $100 range you indicated.
Online MMORPGs arent typically too graphics intensive--so I would think it would still perform well.

The new PSU is way better than you need for a 4670 (needs like 350w), but I didnt find anything much cheaper that was a good brand... If you want to purchase an intermediate brand for cheaper it would be safe--the power supply wont be strained at all.

You might scan your local craigslist to see if there are any used parts--lots of intense gamers are sell old graphic cards that are still quite good for average gaming. (Edit: just make certain you see it working first)
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a c 235 U Graphics card
March 4, 2010 1:30:54 AM

the system requirements for that game are minimal at best, I think you are trying to kill a fly with a sledge hammer

http://knightonlineworld.gamersfirst.com/requirements.p...

Recommended
Windows 98/2000/XP/ME
Pentium II 400 or above
Memory 256 MB or above
Hard Disk Space 600MB or above
Video Card 32MB or above 3D Display Cards with DirectX support
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March 15, 2010 11:02:22 PM

Hi :hello: 

The comp has a 300w PSU and only ONE 120mm Fan in the rear for exhaust.

I will need to add a fan on the Side door facing the VC & Mobo, and a low profile VC
with a Fan & no power plug, I do not want to replace the PSU, this Acer comp is not worth it.

Can someone recommend a Fan Bracket that can be attached to the Side door grill,
without having to cut the grill ?

This VC that can run on 300w:

GIGABYTE GV-R435OC-512I Radeon HD 4350 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card - Retail [Overclocked at 650MHz + Low Profile Bracket included]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks for the Help :) 
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 1:24:37 AM

Hey Jim,

Just to be clear--that 4350 is a less powerful card than the ones I recommended earlier for your 250w psu. It would run just fine on the 250w PSU, and the several models above it would as well.

This ATI 5450 card would be a better choice, and wouldnt require you to mess around with the power supply or anything.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(in case you consider other models--note that I have chosen a model with the faster ddr3 ram)

The above option would probably be enough for her game, but if you want to go all out the 4670 and new power supply would be the best performance you can get for around $90. The 4670 is powerful enough to play new first-person shooters, etc with relatively high settings.
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March 17, 2010 3:19:53 AM

deadlockedworld said:
Hey Jim,

Just to be clear--that 4350 is a less powerful card than the ones I recommended earlier for your 250w psu. It would run just fine on the 250w PSU, and the several models above it would as well.

This ATI 5450 card would be a better choice, and wouldnt require you to mess around with the power supply or anything.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(in case you consider other models--note that I have chosen a model with the faster ddr3 ram)

The above option would probably be enough for her game, but if you want to go all out the 4670 and new power supply would be the best performance you can get for around $90. The 4670 is powerful enough to play new first-person shooters, etc with relatively high settings.

Hi,

That sounds like a plan, the Ati 5450 looks great thanks.
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March 17, 2010 3:20:14 AM

Best answer selected by Jim937.
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March 23, 2010 10:19:10 PM

Hi :hello: 

I thank you deadlockedworld & my TH friends who replied, this is what I just ordered :) 

SAPPHIRE 100292DDR3L Radeon HD 5450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card - Retail: $66.99 + $5.99 Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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