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November 16, 2010 5:08:32 PM

OK, I've decided on an Intel i5 as CPU. Now comes the hard part, choosing a MOBO.

Here's what I do with my computer. Trade stocks and currency online, surf the net, keep photos and that's about it. I'm not a gamer, but I may overclock this time. Sounds like it's getting easier. I have and use 4 monitors.

I'm going to keep my PNY Quadro NVS 440 graphics card which will run 4 monitors from one slot. It's a boring financial card but it works well for 4 monitors with the mostly 2D graphics of financial trading.

I thought I had it narrowed down to either a Gigabyte P55 UD3 or an ASUS P7P55D PRO, P7P55D Deluxe, P7P55D-E Pro or maybe the P7P55D-E.

I like speed and reliability and ease of use. I'm going to move up to Windows 7 64 bit and may get an SSD too.

Now it sounds like USB 3 and SATA 6 might be a good idea. What do you think? Do I need it or want it? Will I be glad I got it now and a couple of years from now?

The different costs of the various boards is not significant if you amortize the cost over about 3 years. It comes out to pennies a day.

So, all you hot shot young whippersnappers, please help this old guy out with your expert opinions and advice. I'd appreciate it.

Gar


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November 16, 2010 5:23:07 PM

I would strongly consider ASUS over Gigabyte, giving the recent increase in defect or dead on arrival Gigabyte motherboards. If money isn't too much of a concern for you, then I would suggest you get the P7..Pro for its OC tool. However, even without the OC tools, you can still OC, so if you're looking to buy a mobo that has all you need, with nothing your don't, you may want to consider the P7...Evo.

As far as wanting or needing USB 3 and SATA 6, I would go with it. USB 2 vs 3: up to 320 MB/s (USB 2) vs up to 4.8 GB/s (USB 3). SATA 6 = up to 6 GB/s; whereas SATA 3 = 3 GB/s. Again, if money isn't the driving factor, using the latest and fastest tech available is nice. How this translates into need vs want? If you NEED speed, then you'll WANT USB 3 & SATA 6.

Here is a link that compares all of the P7P55 ASUS boards:

http://www.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=P7P55D
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November 16, 2010 5:27:45 PM
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November 16, 2010 5:28:09 PM

I like to compare Gigabyte and Asus to Mercedes and BMW. Both are top quality but some models may have a bit of an edge over other models. I am a Gigabyte fan myself and use their boards in about 80% of my builds with the other 20% going to Asus. Both are top notch overclockers.

With P55 the Asus boards have an advantage running multiple graphics cards. That being said it should not be an issue for you as you are not a gamer.

You want USB 3 and SATA 6 for futureproofing. USB 3 is MUCH faster than the old standard and the SATA 6 interface will be a huge advantage with the next generation of SSDs.

So if I was buying for your needs I would go with a Gigabyte P55 UD3/UD5 myself.

Hopefully some of that helped.
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November 16, 2010 7:26:38 PM

Thanks T T,

I do feel "the need for speed" and will go with a USB 3 and SATA 6 type of board.

T_T said:
I would strongly consider ASUS over Gigabyte, giving the recent increase in defect or dead on arrival Gigabyte motherboards. If money isn't too much of a concern for you, then I would suggest you get the P7..Pro for its OC tool. However, even without the OC tools, you can still OC, so if you're looking to buy a mobo that has all you need, with nothing your don't, you may want to consider the P7...Evo.

As far as wanting or needing USB 3 and SATA 6, I would go with it. USB 2 vs 3: up to 320 MB/s (USB 2) vs up to 4.8 GB/s (USB 3). SATA 6 = up to 6 GB/s; whereas SATA 3 = 3 GB/s. Again, if money isn't the driving factor, using the latest and fastest tech available is nice. How this translates into need vs want? If you NEED speed, then you'll WANT USB 3 & SATA 6.

Here is a link that compares all of the P7P55 ASUS boards:

http://www.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=P7P55D

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November 16, 2010 8:00:33 PM

Thanks mosox for the interesting recommendations. I appreciate the time and thought.

I was actually thinking about an AMD system before I decided that the Intel i5 might be the way to go. My current computer has an AMD dual core in it and it's been working without problem for 4 years now.

The AMD vs Intel is always throught provoking.

Thanks again.

Gar


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November 16, 2010 8:02:16 PM

PS TT,

I like your Latin quote.

T_T said:
I would strongly consider ASUS over Gigabyte, giving the recent increase in defect or dead on arrival Gigabyte motherboards. If money isn't too much of a concern for you, then I would suggest you get the P7..Pro for its OC tool. However, even without the OC tools, you can still OC, so if you're looking to buy a mobo that has all you need, with nothing your don't, you may want to consider the P7...Evo.

As far as wanting or needing USB 3 and SATA 6, I would go with it. USB 2 vs 3: up to 320 MB/s (USB 2) vs up to 4.8 GB/s (USB 3). SATA 6 = up to 6 GB/s; whereas SATA 3 = 3 GB/s. Again, if money isn't the driving factor, using the latest and fastest tech available is nice. How this translates into need vs want? If you NEED speed, then you'll WANT USB 3 & SATA 6.

Here is a link that compares all of the P7P55 ASUS boards:

http://www.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=P7P55D

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November 16, 2010 8:07:16 PM

Here's 'affordable speed' and well balanced.

I would recommend the following IF you want to go the SATA3 route:
MOBO: ASUS P7P55D-E PRO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CMP4GX3M2A1600C8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD: Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 128GB SATA3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: GTX 470 - EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's a side-by-side list http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|13-131-482^13-131-482-Z01,13-131-620^13-131-620-TS,13-131-601^13-131-601-TS,13-188-056^13-188-056-TS,13-131-621^13-131-621-TS

footnote: I would look into RAID 1 the Seagate Barracuda HDD which requires (2) matching HDDs. I did read "PNY Quadro NVS 440" - just listing 'balanced' and if it works for you then use it.
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a c 108 V Motherboard
November 16, 2010 8:08:36 PM

Thank you :) 
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a c 195 V Motherboard
November 16, 2010 8:09:23 PM

jaquith said:
Here's 'affordable speed' and well balanced.

I would recommend the following IF you want to go the SATA3 route:
MOBO: ASUS P7P55D-E PRO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CMP4GX3M2A1600C8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD: Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 128GB SATA3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: GTX 470 - EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's a side-by-side list http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|13-131-482^13-131-482-Z01,13-131-620^13-131-620-TS,13-131-601^13-131-601-TS,13-188-056^13-188-056-TS,13-131-621^13-131-621-TS

footnote: I would look into RAID 1 the Seagate Barracuda HDD which requires (2) matching HDDs.



He needs to run 4 monitors and does not game..........why does he need a GTX470?
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a c 716 V Motherboard
November 16, 2010 8:12:05 PM

If he runs Photoshop only the nVidia is accelerated. ^if you read the edit while you were also posting ->I stated, "I did read "PNY Quadro NVS 440" - just listing 'balanced' and if it works for you then use it."
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November 16, 2010 8:17:50 PM
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November 16, 2010 8:18:33 PM

jaquith said:
If he runs Photoshop only the nVidia is accelerated. ^if you read the edit while you were also posting ->I stated, "I did read "PNY Quadro NVS 440" - just listing 'balanced' and if it works for you then use it."



Missed the edit.
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a c 241 V Motherboard
November 16, 2010 8:20:58 PM

If your need is not urgent, you might want to wait for the next generation of Intel processors AKA sandy "bridge which" should launch Jan 9. You can read some about it here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-pre...

Otherwise a P55 based motherboard system should be fine. I have used both Gigabyte and Asus. They are both quality brands. You might also consider an Intel P55 motherboard. Enthusiasts do not like them because they will not do record overclocks, but they are stable and well supported by a US company.

Unless you have a known need for many cores, a strong duo might be better. Something like the i5-650 3.2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It uses 32nm manufacturing process and runs cooler and quieter.

If you think you might try overclocking, the i5-655K has an unlocked multiplier.

Most definitely plan on a SSD. Everything will feel so much snappier. The price per gigabyte is high, but if one SSD will have sufficient capacity to hold everything, it is well worth it. If needed, use a larger hard drive for overflow and backup.

Sata 6.0 is becoming common, and I would look for a motherboard with one or two such ports. It is possible that in the next few years, we will see a SSD that can saturate it. Today, though, sata 3 is sufficient.

USB3.0 is a good idea if you will be doing usb based backups. 3.0 is much faster. Do not exclude an option that does not have it though, because you can get an add-in card later to provide the function.
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November 16, 2010 8:34:47 PM

Thanks anort,

The Gigabyte P55 UD3 is one of the boards that I'm considering. Good specs, good price and value.

Gar

anort3 said:
I like to compare Gigabyte and Asus to Mercedes and BMW. Both are top quality but some models may have a bit of an edge over other models. I am a Gigabyte fan myself and use their boards in about 80% of my builds with the other 20% going to Asus. Both are top notch overclockers.

With P55 the Asus boards have an advantage running multiple graphics cards. That being said it should not be an issue for you as you are not a gamer.

You want USB 3 and SATA 6 for futureproofing. USB 3 is MUCH faster than the old standard and the SATA 6 interface will be a huge advantage with the next generation of SSDs.

So if I was buying for your needs I would go with a Gigabyte P55 UD3/UD5 myself.

Hopefully some of that helped.

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November 16, 2010 8:43:41 PM

A SATA2 SSD + SATA3 MOBO...why bother getting a SATA3 MOBO. CM Hyper 212 unbeatable for the $, I love Corsair PSUs if the plan includes OC then TX650W, I hope the Ripjaws are Certified/Tested for the GA MOBO, but never a GA MOBO.
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