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Is 8800 GT to 5770 a big upgrade?

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March 4, 2010 3:35:30 AM

I just got Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and unfortunately the game doesn't look as good as I'd like it to. I have an Acer 22" 1680x1050 native monitor, but the game is running at 1440x900 at medium settings which are the recommended settings. I'd like to be able to get "really good" graphics (doesn't have to be ultra top-of-the-line, just really good). Here are my current specs:

Gigabyte GA-P35 DS4
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.2 Ghz
MSI 8800 GT (Factory OC'd)
4 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 (actually 2 GB atm since one dimm is being replaced)

I think the next obvious upgrade would be my video card. I don't want to spend the money, however, unless it will be a significant jump - and don't want to spend more than $200.

So, I'm thinking an ATI 5770 would be the best thing under $200. Any thoughts?

Also is the fact that I've only got 2 GB of ram at the moment going to affect my game play significantly?

Thanks

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a b U Graphics card
March 4, 2010 4:06:47 AM

From what i have heard you can turn all the settings up in BFBC2 with a 5770 at the 16xx resolution or lower. But i have no first hand experience, so i cant say for 100% certain that is true. at the 14xx resolution i imagine the 5770 should be able to max everything.
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March 4, 2010 4:52:31 AM

The 5770 was made to compete with the GTX 260, and the 260 was a "better" version of the 98xx, which was the 88xx.. So, as anort3 is saying, it is better and worse, depending on the game.

I have the 5770 Vapor-X, and there is ridiculous overclocking headroom on that thing, so it would be a good idea to invest in a quality cooler.

2GB of ram, eh? Well, if I were you, I'd buy more RAM before I get the GPU. The GPU can add a significant improvement to your games, and the RAM can add a significant improvement to just about everything. So 2GB of RAM (and perhaps a 64-bit OS to follow), then the GPU.

Cheers.
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March 4, 2010 5:17:11 AM

My understanding is the HD5770 should perform about the same as an HD4850 or 4870 considering the GDDR5 memory.
If you have plans to use the machine for watching movies, there are features that would be an improvement. I wouldn't expect a vast performance increase though. More incremental. I was a bit disappointed in the small performance increase when going from an 8800GT to the HD 4850. But it has served me well, and I am happy I made the purchase. :) 

I am assuming the card you have is 512MB, and you're going to 1GB. This would be helpful at higher resolutions and settings.

I agree with the ram comment, I wouldn't build a gaming system with less than 4 gigs, esp with vista or Win7. I am uncertain how much that would affect gaming performance with frame rates (Probably not much), but as mentioned it would speed up the sytem which could only help.
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March 4, 2010 5:45:12 AM

Zinosys said:
The 5770 was made to compete with the GTX 260, and the 260 was a "better" version of the 98xx, which was the 88xx.. So, as anort3 is saying, it is better and worse, depending on the game.

I have the 5770 Vapor-X, and there is ridiculous overclocking headroom on that thing, so it would be a good idea to invest in a quality cooler.

2GB of ram, eh? Well, if I were you, I'd buy more RAM before I get the GPU. The GPU can add a significant improvement to your games, and the RAM can add a significant improvement to just about everything. So 2GB of RAM (and perhaps a 64-bit OS to follow), then the GPU.

Cheers.


The GTX260 was not a better version of the 98xx.

The GTX260 is GT200 architecture. The 98xx was G92 architecture. They are totally different generations.


To the OP:
4870 ~ 5770 ~ GTX260
8800GT/9800GT ~ 4830 < 8800GTS 512 ~ 4770 < 9800GTX/GTS250 ~ 4850 < 4870 ~ 5770 ~ GTX260

The 5770 will be roughly 40-50% better than an 8800GT.
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a b U Graphics card
March 4, 2010 6:06:56 AM

It's not like going from oral to anal, but it's still an upgrade.

Worth $175, though? I don't know. The 5770 ought to be good but not great at that level, and in fact, I probably would recommend the 5850 in your situation except that price gets in the way. Maybe get one of those in a few months when the price drops? Or just wait until you build a new machine, because you're decent now but not great.
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March 4, 2010 6:33:40 AM

capt_taco said:
It's not like going from oral to anal, but it's still an upgrade.


Huh... :o 


How is that even remotely similar... And how is that analogy even logical? O_o



:non: 

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March 4, 2010 7:54:55 AM

Here is my thoughts

5770 > 8800gt , it will play Bad company on 1680x1050 (my 4870 512mb and c2d e7200 plays it maxed out)

It can be overclocked very nicely for extra 10% performance.

Question though is it worth it?

The rest of your rig, whilst still working in everything (q6600 @3.2 will play anything you throw at it) is getting old and will at some point need upgrading.

If you buy 5770 I think you will probably reach the end of its life when you change the rest of the rig.

Go with 5850 (Which is like 2 x performance of 5770) and that card will carry on into your new rig and be replaced further down the line. (I call it the tick tock upgrade pattern lol, alternate 18 month CPU MOBO 18 month \GPU 18 month CPU MOBO ect)
This means buying parts that will last the three years nicely. Now to be fair that is easier with the CPU than GPU but something to aim for unless money is no issue

Overall the choice is yours, but not sure if I would upgrade 8800gt for the returns of a 5770. I personally would save a little and go 5850 or run rig until complete replace.
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March 4, 2010 8:07:26 AM

Truhls said:
From what i have heard you can turn all the settings up in BFBC2 with a 5770 at the 16xx resolution or lower. But i have no first hand experience, so i cant say for 100% certain that is true. at the 14xx resolution i imagine the 5770 should be able to max everything.

I just got a 5770 today, and can confirm that at 1920x1080 BFBC2 plays smooth with all settings on max including AA
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March 4, 2010 9:06:51 AM

The 5770 was made to compete with the GTX 260, [b said:
and the 260 was a "better" version of the 98xx, which was the 88xx.. So, as anort3 is saying, it is better and worse, depending on the game.]The 5770 was made to compete with the GTX 260, and the 260 was a "better" version of the 98xx, which was the 88xx.. So, as anort3 is saying, it is better and worse, depending on the game.
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genius.
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a b U Graphics card
March 4, 2010 9:18:23 AM


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It's not like going from oral to anal, but it's still an upgrade.


Bluescreendeath said:
Huh... :o 


How is that even remotely similar... And how is that analogy even logical? O_o



:non: 



He made me laugh :D 


Is the kinda difference my GF noticed :o  :love: 
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a b U Graphics card
March 4, 2010 9:43:42 AM

An upgrade from 8800GT to 5770 is a good upgrade because the 5770 is 3 tiers up in the graphic hierarchy chart. This is the minimum recommended upgrade. But it is also a safe upgrade because the 5770's power requirements do not exceed the 8800GT's and they both have one 6-pin power connector.
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March 4, 2010 10:48:08 AM

^ and a lot quieter too. especially if his previous 8800gt is housing the annoying single-slot-ear-murdering cooler.
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March 4, 2010 5:08:51 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, I think I will just wait until summer and build a totally new system.

:) 
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March 20, 2010 8:21:06 PM

Alright, let me redeem myself from my earlier comment. yes, a 5770 will be a substantial upgrade.

It went like this: 8800xx > 9800xx > GTS 250. The GTX 260 > GTS 250, and 5770 ~= 260.

Now I'm confusing myself, but hope that helps.
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December 30, 2010 12:47:54 AM

> symbol is the greater than symbol
X > Y means X is greater than Y
8800 < 9800

460 has higher average and max fps than 5770 but lower minimum fps
260 has lower min, max and average fps, no dx11 or multiple monitor support but it has a gymix er i mean physix ppu

5770 will max out games like bad company 2, the call of duty series, grid, darksiders, fifa, oblivion, prince of persia, bioshock, starcraft 2 and assassins creed in 1080p full AA & AF

5770 will play games like dirt 2, street fighter 4, crysis, gta 4 in high settings (gta4 needs 2gb gddr for max settings) / medium AA AF / 1080p but you can max these games out with a lower resolution or by crossfire configuration with a 5750 or 5770 and and get 5850 or 5870 performance respectively which will max out any game on the market right now
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December 30, 2010 4:30:17 PM

This is why we pick a best answer so Mods can close 10 month old threads and people stop making useless comments that no longer even apply anymore........Check the date before you chime in egg.
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December 30, 2010 4:40:33 PM

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