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November 17, 2010 9:47:24 AM

Hi guys i wanted to get DDR3 1333MHZ
2x2GB ram for my Rig but i realy stuck on choosing between these brands !
1.KingMax
2.Corsair
3.A-Data
4.Patriot
5.geil
6.UMAX
7.KINGSTON

Tell Right & Correct Alignment for THESE Brands , Simply Tell me which one is better than the Other ( Best from Worst with a little Reasons )

Thanks a Lot for Helping me !
November 17, 2010 10:19:15 AM

Kingstone ,corsair and patriot are great brands

nothing better than others , just pick up the lower CL and the lower volt in case you wanted to overclock them later ..
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November 17, 2010 11:07:15 AM

Hi.

1- Corsair
2- Patriot
3- Kingston
4- The others.
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November 17, 2010 11:16:05 AM

1. Corsair
2. G.SKILL
3. Mushkin
4. Kingston

*. Crucial for good budget RAM

Patriot may have been okay way back when bur it has been horrible lately along with OCZ. Further, olny certain lines from the above RAM Co's are on my list.
November 17, 2010 12:28:08 PM

Which one of them are not GOOD ? & can u tell me which one is better than the other like this : X>X>X>
November 17, 2010 12:31:02 PM

Hey guys if each one of u has Different Opinion then i cant go with the BEST because i dont know which one is BEST in REAL .
November 17, 2010 12:51:43 PM

OK i Found Out that i can Only buy these :

1.KingMax D.CH 1333 DDR3 2x2Gb
2.Patriot D.CH 1333 DDR3 2x2Gb
3.geil D.CH 1333 DDR3 2x2Gb
4.KINGSTON D.CH 1333 DDR3 2x2Gb

Maybe i can get (( Corsair D.CH 2x2GB DDR3 1600 )) too ! but first tell me which one is better in this Options ! like this X>X>X>X
November 17, 2010 1:17:47 PM

go for kingston 1333 , as i said before get the one with lower CL
otherwise if you able to get da corsair its will be great since more Bus will help
and BTW : you haven't mention your CPU because you might not be able to run it at 1600 or you will have to overclock CPU to reach that point
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November 17, 2010 1:20:05 PM

This are not good:

1- KingMax
2-UMAX
3- GEIL

A-DATA has some good kits, but usually all aren't good.

I prefer Crucial (Aren't in your list), but Corsair is the 2nd best in line, so, go with it. Corsair is a good manufacturer.
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November 17, 2010 2:01:48 PM

Unless you are water cooling your RAM, then Corsair, and then of the Corsair I only 'like' the Dominator & Dominator GT. Also, 'each' MOBO has 'it's' preferences in the sense of Certified or Tested RAM.

Also, the 'real' question is 'how' to pick the best of the 'best' -> e.g. 1600 MHz: 1. best IC's used, 2. CAS 'tightness' 8-8-8-24 vs 7-8-7-24, 3. Cooling -> OC'ability, 4. voltage range ~±0.3V, 5. Bench tests to confirm.

Comparison Module #1: Mushkin Redline 996805 6-8-6-24 1600MHz
Comparison Module #2: G.Skill Pi Series 7-8-7-24 1600MHz
Comparison Module #3: Mushkin 998687 8-9-8-24 1866MHz
Comparison Module #4: Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 8-8-8-24 1600MHz
Comparison Module #5: Kingston HyperX T1 9-9-9-27 1600MHz
Comparison Module #6: Mushkin Blackline 998677B 7-7-7-20 1333MHz
Comparison Module #7: Patriot Viper II Sector 7 9-9-9-27 1800MHz

November 17, 2010 5:34:18 PM

kovaxo said:
go for kingston 1333 , as i said before get the one with lower CL
otherwise if you able to get da corsair its will be great since more Bus will help
and BTW : you haven't mention your CPU because you might not be able to run it at 1600 or you will have to overclock CPU to reach that point



I want that Ram for my New RIG & my New RIG will have i5 760 2.8GHZ CPU ! is that Enough to Run 1600 ? anyway will i get low Gaming Experience with 1333 MHZ ??
November 17, 2010 5:36:40 PM

saint19 said:
This are not good:

1- KingMax
2-UMAX
3- GEIL

A-DATA has some good kits, but usually all aren't good.

I prefer Crucial (Aren't in your list), but Corsair is the 2nd best in line, so, go with it. Corsair is a good manufacturer.


:o  I heard alot about Kingmax & specialy Geil , why do u say that they are bad ? can u give Little Reasons with Little Details ? is it ur own Opinion ?
November 17, 2010 5:42:55 PM

Viper98 said:
I want that Ram for my New RIG & my New RIG will have i5 760 2.8GHZ CPU ! is that Enough to Run 1600 ? anyway will i get low Gaming Experience with 1333 MHZ ??

Yes its enough , but you will have to overclock ur cpu a bit , more Bus speed means less time to access date ( Read , Write and Copy )
after all 1333 is not a bad choice either :) 
November 17, 2010 5:43:48 PM

I had an old system with GeIL RAM, and worked fine until i blew out a stick with to much voltage. But Out of that list I would choose Kingston. I just bought some Kingston DDR3-1066 and am satified with it.

Crucial is also good with RAM.
November 17, 2010 5:50:58 PM

I Dont Wanna OC my CPU so if i need to OC to run 1600 fine then i think I better go for 1333 MHz , i just wanna know if 1333MHZ is a GREAT Selection for Max Gaming & fast Access to all windows parts or Not ! & why I SHOULD OC my CPU a BIT for 1600 RAM ? ( 1600 makes faster so why it needs CPU to be OCed ? )
November 17, 2010 5:53:22 PM

Please answer Both Questions . thanks
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November 17, 2010 7:00:55 PM

Crucial, Corsair, Mushkin even Kingston are used for test platforms, so far I have not seen any test platform with those RAM kits.

And the most important, Crucial and Corsair work with Micron semiconductors that are the best microelectronics manufacturer,so, quality, warranty, price, performance.
November 17, 2010 7:28:18 PM

Ok but its not enough reason to Kick Out Geil & Kingmax . oh man come on , havent u seen Kingmax or Geil working well on some system ?
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November 17, 2010 7:46:09 PM

Well, for me is enough reason.

Ok, I have hear about GEIL, but nothing about Kingmax
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November 17, 2010 8:39:07 PM

Get it then + have fun! :)  What do I/we know...after ~10,000 posts.

It's ALL about Performance + Compatibility + Reliability + Problem Free + Quality + EXPERIENCE!

Good Luck!
November 18, 2010 5:37:13 AM

Which one has all of that ? then if u heard about Geil why do u say they are bad , any one else here has same Opinion ?
November 18, 2010 6:07:24 AM

Viper98 said:
I Dont Wanna OC my CPU so if i need to OC to run 1600 fine then i think I better go for 1333 MHz , i just wanna know if 1333MHZ is a GREAT Selection for Max Gaming & fast Access to all windows parts or Not ! & why I SHOULD OC my CPU a BIT for 1600 RAM ? ( 1600 makes faster so why it needs CPU to be OCed ? )


There are a few major things you need to know about DDR3 (stand for Double Data Rate ) when building a system:

The simplest way to understand how it works would be to think that at the low level it had two chips of half the stated memory speed working in tandem together to achieve the full speed stated
As far as matching FSB to DDR3 speed my recommendations are to skip DDR3 1600 (if you don't want to overclock CPU , (FSB)).
Generally you want to keep the system clock of your memory matching with the root clock of your memory (1:1) or one step above. So the system clock on a I5 760 is 133 x 4 = 533 ~ (quad pumped) so that matches DDR3 1066/2 effective at 533 MHz . ( 1333 ram would be da One Step above).
November 18, 2010 6:15:56 AM

as for overclocking to, to run a bus 1600 ram on you CPU
you will need to reach 200MHZ x 4 =800 MHz (200x21=4.2GHz) , 1600/2 = 800 MHz
then you CPU clock will match your ram clock at 800 MHz and you will gain the best performance 1:1
November 18, 2010 6:28:37 AM

oh well in your case if you want to reach the maximum performance get an ddr3 1333 with CL6 better than 1600 CL 9 ;) 
Less CL mean less time
about Gail its not bad brand , its like asrock beside gigabyte
so if you can get this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ur system will kick ass ;) 
November 18, 2010 7:42:17 AM

Can u tell me what is CL ? forexample tell me : all of DDR 3 1333Mhz are CL 6 , tell me tell me
November 18, 2010 7:53:14 AM

& thanks a lot for Info i surly get for 1333
November 18, 2010 8:21:52 AM

CL = CAS latency
In simple terms, it's the number of clock cycles it takes for the memory to respond when it's told to do something. A CAS Latency of 6 means that the memory responds to requests after 6 clock cycles..
and no not all DDR3 1333 are CL6... the less CL the more money u will have to pay :D 
its also offer's a percentage performance increase in the low single digits for most applications ;) 
Beside the more RAM bus Means the More CL = More Cycles
November 18, 2010 8:28:21 AM

Oh got it, thanks a lot ! But i still Confused choosing Between KingMax, Patriot, geil & KINGSTON , Just these 4 Ram Brands , They all are 1333Mhz . now , whcih one is better Finaly ?
November 18, 2010 8:29:59 AM

The one with Less Volt and Less CL , that what i would chose if i were you no matter what brand ;) 
November 18, 2010 8:32:10 AM

I need Correct Aligment ( From BEST to Worst ) !
November 18, 2010 8:34:38 AM

OK OK , but i dont know how to Find out CL from those rams , how do i know ? Info & specification tells ? Brand is important too I need to know which of those 4 are best
November 18, 2010 8:37:42 AM

1.Kingston
2.Patriot
3.Geil
as long there is a good warranty.. go with the lowest CL Brand
but from Best to worst is above as well
November 18, 2010 8:39:43 AM

Viper98 said:
OK OK , but i dont know how to Find out CL from those rams , how do i know ? Info & specification tells ? Brand is important too I need to know which of those 4 are best

Get the model number , and Go to the brand website its will tell you
November 18, 2010 8:43:58 AM

WWHY havent u Mentioned Kingmax ?
November 18, 2010 8:50:33 AM

Super low quality been made for the 3rd world
but its do the job lol
November 18, 2010 9:14:44 AM

Kingmax ? did u tell last post about KINGMAX ? oh i tought its Famous & great
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November 18, 2010 1:03:07 PM

kovaxo said:
1.Kingston
2.Patriot
3.Geil
as long there is a good warranty.. go with the lowest CL Brand
but from Best to worst is above as well


Patriot is currently about the worst mainstream memory you can find. It is a very frequent visitor here, and very rarely plays well with ANY other RAM, and is very touchy.
November 18, 2010 3:39:48 PM

Oh excuse me , do u have ANy IDEA how Hard My Decision will be if u guys Say different things ? some one say this is good another one Disagree with him & says its Worst ! non of u Give Fixed Answer ! Can some one Tell me right thing please ?
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November 18, 2010 4:07:57 PM

You already have (2) of the most knowledgeable people {saint19 & jaquith} confirming Corsair as the top pick. What more is there to 'comprehend' you don't achieve Silver/Bronze by error, and I'm about a week or two from the Gold. These levels are awarded by SOLVING complex MOBO + RAM problems.

As I stated also, between saint19 & jaquith accounts for ~ 10,000 posts vs your & kovaxo ~150 posts.

Logic = #Posts + Designations = EXPERIENCE!

You can get 10 people with 10 opinions with little experience <OR> trust 2 matching opinions of extremely knowledgeable people.

RE: Patriot RAM - saint19 and I often disagree on RAM, but memory is my De facto specialty. Patriot comes up quite a bit with: Dead Sticks, Incompatibly in 'Mixing', High Memtest Failure Rates. At one point, 'in the day' they were fine, but lately the problems have spiked especially considering disproportional numbers to their market share.
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November 18, 2010 4:15:50 PM

Just for clarify, I'm Gold badge as you can see if you see my profile. This is my 2nd Bronze badge, and waiting for 2nd Silver badge.

Regarding your question:

It's easy. Corsair is the best of your list, Kingston is the most used for manufacturers like DELL, Compaq, HP....so, go with Corsair, if you don't like it or don't have the enough budget go with Kingston.
November 18, 2010 4:18:25 PM

Oh u know how many Points i have Lost by geting baned for no reason more than 5 times ?? i reached Regular for 2 Times ! but ... Long Story forget it !

THEN i cant Get Corsair because i cant Find 1333MHZ ! i am thinking about these
Geil , Kingmax , Kingston , Patriot

Patriot is out , ok! some one Disagree with Kingmax , saint 19 didnt even Mentioned it ( i think its bad ) , Geil too , & they gave Kingstone 3rd or 4rth Place ( its not that GOOD ) i realy dont know ! can u Correct me a little , which one should come back to list ? should Geil & Kingmax go ?
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November 18, 2010 4:23:52 PM

Why you limit your choice to 1333MHz?
November 18, 2010 4:47:35 PM

Oh i think i will have less trouble by geting 1333 because they are CHeaper & i need no OC to run them & match with all other PARTS ! anyway , i dont think that 1333 is Low for Gaming , is it ? Saint19 please help me . i should say that know u , but u just cant remember who am i i will help u ( i asked u Please please & tehn u told me OK Bro , i am here to hellp u , dont worry ) ok just forget it , Mousemonkey banned me for about 6or 7 times that why U cant remember me !
November 18, 2010 4:48:30 PM

my First thread was named : SamikSamik , Can u remember it ? Hardly !
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November 18, 2010 4:51:11 PM

saint19 said:
Just for clarify, I'm Gold badge as you can see if you see my profile. This is my 2nd Bronze badge, and waiting for 2nd Silver badge.

Really?? I know. I clearly meant here in THIS section. The other sections don't interest me -- yet.

I cannot imagine 'banned' -> argumentative would be guess #1. If a post now gets on my nerves I just unflag. Everyday, I care less and less of 'opinions' or picking an 'argument' to a point. IF someone really makes you angry then PM.
November 18, 2010 4:56:56 PM

Oh ya Only One in this WORLD that Makes me so ANGRy is Mouse MONKEY , he shouldnt have become a Moderator ! he doesnt have MERIT of that ! Because he ban people like me for NO reason , its too long story & if u hear it then u will understand that i GET BANNED for NO REASOn , i swear ! let God & Jesus Kill me IF i am Lying !
November 18, 2010 4:58:39 PM

I Instulted him 2 times so 2 or 3 of 7 bans are Reasonable ( but if u understand me u sure let that 2 bans still Unreasonable Bans because Insult for person who doesnt UNDERSTAND is Right !
November 18, 2010 5:29:41 PM

Viper98 said:
I Instulted him 2 times so 2 or 3 of 7 bans are Reasonable ( but if u understand me u sure let that 2 bans still Unreasonable Bans because Insult for person who doesnt UNDERSTAND is Right !

Here's a little something from the rules you ought to take a look at before getting too carried away.

Quote:
Two more things: Forum accounts are non-transferable. Actions taken by a user on one account may affect all of that user's accounts.


Source.
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November 18, 2010 5:49:58 PM

I learn never to smoke a cigarette in a lake of gasoline or argue with someone with a WWII motto ;) 
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November 18, 2010 6:04:09 PM

@OP: If you was banned was with legal reason, we don't ban for anything.

@jaquith: I mean to this section too.
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