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March 5, 2010 5:02:03 AM

I know it seems impossible since it didn't come that long ago and must be doing well given the options, but I notice on Newegg that many of the models of the 5870 are all on back order.

Of course this could mean they just sold out of a bunch, but in Googling, some posts on forums seem to say they are already stopping production. Obviously no verification so I can call Sapphire for fun tomorrow to check, but anyone know?

I returned mine that I bought from Fry's as had 1 day left and with Fermi close now, thought I'd wait. The card worked fine so would suck if I can't rebuy it again if Fermi sucks.

The graphics card market is weird ;) 

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March 5, 2010 5:32:53 AM

No, they aren't discontinuing their current top end single-GPU card. It would be a ludicrous decision to make just before the launch of Fermi.
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March 5, 2010 6:17:12 AM

Ok, then they either must be selling extremely well or just not producing many.

Given the economy and $430+ avg price, I'm guessing it's not the extremely selling part.
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March 5, 2010 9:03:06 AM

MSI will have stopped producing 5850 and 5870 reference cards by the end of March.

Maybe is the same for others too...

Check out this link ~_^
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March 5, 2010 9:06:50 AM

Yeah and I read elsewhere that allegedly Sapphire has stopped production.

Who knows. But seems they are working on a refresh?
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March 5, 2010 9:11:15 AM

The link to the new MSI Lightning with its new TwinFrozr cooling should come as standard at 1,000MHz I hear :D 
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March 5, 2010 1:44:01 PM

That's because AIBs can finally use their own designs so alot of them are stopping the production of reference card. Alot of people, like me, are waiting for non reference designs. As for the 5870 specifically, you will soon see a few overclocked models to compete with Femi.
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March 5, 2010 3:26:35 PM

Ok, that explains it maybe. All the original reference designs might now be stopping production and maybe as you say, each will have their own flavor.
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March 5, 2010 4:17:40 PM

Hmm, this card came out like 3 months ago, and they're going to 'refresh'? I hope to GOD that the next cards can be xfired with the origional ones. I was planning on xfiring another 5850 to get good eyefinity resolutions wheen the prices come down a bit (and driver support goes up a bit)...but if this isn't going to be possible, i'm swearing off CrossFire forever.
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March 5, 2010 8:49:57 PM

Well, let's see.

The best seller on every site including Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Called, they said they are not expecting any more in but they leave the product page up anyway because of reviews, etc. The ETA is based on when it normally would restock.

Ooops. Out as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hey, they have these! Psyche! Out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Snap. Out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer out!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wait, these are in? NOPE! Ouuuuuuuuut.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


In short, hold off getting discontinued models and wait to see how Fermi does.

C'mon, I want me FERMI! Out with ya!

The only ones left are ones people are not that hot on buying so they still have stock ;) 
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March 5, 2010 9:01:09 PM

arrpeegeer said:
In short, hold off getting discontinued models and wait to see how Fermi does.

C'mon, I want me FERMI! Out with ya!

Yes, you like Nvidia, good for you. Telling people the HD5870 is discontinued in some misguided attempt to sway people's opinions is just lieing.
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March 5, 2010 9:01:54 PM

The top 7 are in-stock.
That's plenty.
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March 5, 2010 9:04:16 PM

arrpeegeer said:
Well, let's see.

The best seller on every site including Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Called, they said they are not expecting any more in but they leave the product page up anyway because of reviews, etc. The ETA is based on when it normally would restock.

Ooops. Out as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hey, they have these! Psyche! Out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Snap. Out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer out!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wait, these are in? NOPE! Ouuuuuuuuut.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


In short, hold off getting discontinued models and wait to see how Fermi does.

C'mon, I want me FERMI! Out with ya!

The only ones left are ones people are not that hot on buying so they still have stock ;) 


Maybe instead of choosing the 7 OUT of stock ones you could choose the 7 IN stock ones?

OMG!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

In-stock!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Overclocked!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Watercooled!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Custom Air!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Vapor-X!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wow! 7!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 5, 2010 10:20:17 PM

to be fair:

@ overclockers 5850

9 of 12 are outa stock --- one of the 3 in have 1 left...

9 of 14 are outa stock --- one of the 5 have 2 left...

normally the stock levels are closer to 50% stock of the different types
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March 5, 2010 10:20:58 PM

2nd set 9 of 14 are the 5870's
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can't edit - sry
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March 5, 2010 11:05:58 PM

How is that "fair" exactly? Neither the HD5850 nor the HD5870 have been discontinued. By the logic presented here both of those cards were discontinued directly after launch because they couldn't be found in stock anywhere. This is just pure nonsense.
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March 5, 2010 11:09:30 PM

Try reading the rest of the post and maybe the links...

MSI stated their Last Reference 58XX will ship out in March

The AIB's are clearing old stock B4 releasing their new models.
This is why so many suppliers are low on stock right now.

After this most brands will be shipping their Refresh models ;) 
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March 5, 2010 11:12:11 PM

Just because non-reference cards will be coming out does not mean the cards have been discontinued. That means certain versions of the cards from certain suppliers have been discontinued. This is not news, it happens with every card that gets released. This thread is pointless.
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March 5, 2010 11:23:25 PM

Try finding a 5970 in stock. Thats 2 of them there 5870's :)  Hey , I thought ATI had all the chips they needed ?
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March 5, 2010 11:23:44 PM

I stated in my 1st post that MSI said their last Reference card was shipping in March. (that means discontinued Reference models - the "certain cards" - and a while new range for MSI)

I know Asus, Gigabyte, MSI and Powercolor for certain all have a new range coming - and probably all the others too.

and is why the OP was finding low stock levels on the 58XX series...

seems relevant to me ;) 
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March 6, 2010 12:04:51 AM

Newegg isn't the only site on the net. There in stock on other site's, Carigslist, Ebay, etc.
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March 6, 2010 12:15:02 AM

yup

I expect most will have plenty for folks to buy

just maybe a little less choice of brands than might have been expected as supply was just increasing some - at least till the new models arrive :) 
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March 6, 2010 12:26:18 AM

Whoa, the 5970 is going for 700$+, used on Ebay. And like 800$ for a new one.
And i thought Ebay was cheap, i got my 4870 1gb for 93$.
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March 6, 2010 1:26:00 AM

Well, first I don't hate ATI, I just have had great luck with Nvidia. The 5870 was great while I had it. Couple issues with the drivers but the hardware seemed fine.

But since I could return it, I thought I might as well wait and check out Fermi.

If it isn't worth it, I was going to just order the Sapphire 5870 since I had the Diamond one but seems people overall happier with Sapphire.

But as I said, Newegg lady said they are not expecting them back in. And a month ago Newegg had every single one in stock before I picked mine up from Fry's.

Oh and Fry's doesn't have a single model of the 5870 and said they show no orders for new ones.

So I'm not saying the chipset is discontinued but yes, probably some of the companies will continue the current line, seems many are either refreshing it or...?

Also, Newegg makes their living off very tight management of keep just in time stock. They are rarely out of items unless they are not getting more.

Once in a while very new items (like Fermi might be) or extremely hot items that will happen to.

$450 graphics cards are not moving at such a rate, especially with Fermi out in a few weeks where there is a wait and see attitude, that they can't keep stock on over 8 models (ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, Sapphire, etc.)

I'm not saying I know exactly what is happening but _something_ is definitely going on.

Also, even with NVidia, I bought my 9800 GTX not long after it came out from EVGA (still using it as it's been nails) and it wasn't that long before it was already discontinued.

Maybe cards that don't have the greatest yield or who knows just don't have the same lifecycle as the budget cards.
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March 6, 2010 2:00:06 AM

I don't know that Fermi is going to be that great - but I want it to come out so I can decide already and we can see some benchmarks. But either way, I might just be waiting now if it isn't great to see what happens with these refreshes.

Also, Nvidia has been making $$$ in areas other than just gaming cards so who knows anymore.

Luckily, until SC2 (which isn't graphics heavy) or the new Crisis comes out, not sure I'll need to give up my old Nvidia card.

Already finished ME2 and Bioshock 2 so nothing on the horizon I can think of...
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March 6, 2010 12:02:56 PM

Nobody knows any real Crysis bencmarks of Fermi yet. So we all need to shut up and stop talking about how it's cancer/reincarnation of juesus, depending on our various fanboism.
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March 6, 2010 12:20:09 PM

I think you'll find you meant Jebus there bro ;) 
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March 6, 2010 12:25:16 PM

Yhe, Personally i think the Fermi chip is gonna be trash. But I don't know that, and niether does anyone else, so we all need to stop talking about it.

On a side note, I think the Fermi chip may have a future in CAD, as a Quadro seris Workstation card. They'll proably make a 1,000$-5,000$ Fermi Card with like 4gb of GDDR5, a OC, a new heatsink, and some software changes, and sell it as a worksation card.
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March 8, 2010 3:25:08 AM

Even Intel failed (again) with Larabee so who knows anymore.

Allegedly they are keeping it for 'internal' use, whatever that means.
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March 8, 2010 6:07:22 PM

Does anyone else think that Fermi will find it's use in Worksation graphics, as in the Quadro class?
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March 8, 2010 6:09:54 PM

^^thats pretty much what they were designed for.... :p 

gaming is like sooo distant second on their priorites right now...
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March 8, 2010 7:44:25 PM

arrpeegeer said:
I don't know that Fermi is going to be that great - but I want it to come out so I can decide already and we can see some benchmarks. But either way, I might just be waiting now if it isn't great to see what happens with these refreshes.

Also, Nvidia has been making $$$ in areas other than just gaming cards so who knows anymore.

Luckily, until SC2 (which isn't graphics heavy) or the new Crisis comes out, not sure I'll need to give up my old Nvidia card.

Already finished ME2 and Bioshock 2 so nothing on the horizon I can think of...


You can wait until you die for prices that are to die for.
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