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March 20, 2010 5:02:13 PM

Hey, I am building almost completely new system. I'm only going to save from my current build HDD, DVD drive and PSU (700w or 750w, can't recall which one it was).

I'm making up two new builds, one super system and one more affordable. Depends on certain factors which one I'll buy.

I'm not buying either of these yet, I'm waiting for a few weeks to see how the Fermi release will affect the graphics card prices. Likely the grapics card setup I've had in my mind won't change, but the price drop will feel good anyway.

Both of these builds will be used for heavy gaming and HD video playback and the occasional testing of whatever HD encoding, 3d modeling etc.

Here is what I've had in my mind for the Affordable build (~1000e, or ~$1000 as the prices are higher in euros):

Case:
What I'm looking for is a case that is quiet, has good air flow, doesn't collect much dust, is easy to clean of dust, is spacious and has easy installation for new HDDs. Here are some I've been looking at, but I can't decide which one to choose.

The prices are Euros by the way. I just copy pasted these from a text file so you don't have to care about them that much.

* Fractal Define R2 Black Pearl ATX-kotelo - 89e
* Midgard Gamer ATX-kotelo - 66e
* CM Storm Scout Gaming ATX-kotelo - 99e
* CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced ATX-kotelo - 95e
* Antec 200 - 59e
* Antex 300 - 50e

The Antecs are cheap, but I don't like the way you have to install HDDs.

Motherboard: I tried to look at some benchmarks and what's recommended and based on what's available I chose this:

* Gigabyte P55A-UD3(R), P55 1156, USB 3.0, SATA 6 Gb, ATX, CrossfireX - 135e

CPU: I was looking at AMD Phenom II X4 965BE at first, but the benchmarks show i5 750 beats it hands down so I went with that.

* Core i5 750, 2.66GHz, LGA1156, 8MB, Boxed - 189e

CPU Cooler:

* Noctua NH-U12P SE2, LGA775/1156/1366/AM2+/AM3 - 60e
* Noctua NH-C12P SE14, LGA 775/1156/1366, AMD AM2, AM2+, AM3 - 60e
* CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus - 35e

Anything else worth buying?

Graphics card: I currently have Nvidia's GeForce 8800GTS512, but I decided to go with ATI for this build.

* Ati Radeon HD 5850 1GB, GDDR5, 256-bit, PCI-E, Dual DVI/HDMI/DP - 274e

I'll wait for the price drop and see what happens, maybe go for Radeon HD 5870. Or should I go for CrossFire? Something like 2x5770 if it's worth it.

Graphics card cooler: Do I even need one? Seems like they're pretty effective though so it could be good. Haven't really looked at anything yet.

Memory: I honestly don't know what I should get, here's some cheap ones that I just listed.

* A-Data 3x1GB, DDR3 1333MHz, CL8/CL7 - 80/82e
* A-Data 3x1GB, DDR3 1600MHz, CL9/CL8 - 82/85e
* Kingston 3x1GB, DDR3 1333MHz, CL9 - 82e
* Kingston HyperX 3x1GB, DDR3 1600MHz, CL9 - 90e
* A-Data 2x2GB, DDR3 1333MHz, CL9 - 94e
* Team Group 2 x 2GB Xtreem LV Dual-Channel Kit, DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) CL7 - 96e

I don't really want to spend more than that for memory. And I hear 1333MHz is fast enough, what should I get from the above ones?

HDD: These are just for storing video and games and whatnot.

* 2x Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200.12, 3.5", SATA II, 32MB, 7200RPM - 79e (158e)
* 2x Samsung 1TB SpinPoint F3 3.5", SATAII, 32MB, 7200RPM - 78e (156e)

Mouse: I had MX510 for 3 years before it broke, loved it

* Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse, Retail, 1800dpi - 35e

700-750w PSU would be enough for this build, right? I'd like to think so.

So there's something I've been looking for, my lack of knowledge and experience makes me unsure and doubt many of the parts as I don't know what to get really. Let me know what you recommend or would improve!


Then the Super build: Absolutely nuts, but this build would last for a long time and give an amazing gaming experience. I still have a budget here, just unsure of how big budget. So I'm looking for the cheapest parts to get a working build. Here are some changes I've been thinking about for the above build:

Graphics card in Crossfire mode:

* Ati Radeon HD 5850 1GB, GDDR5, 256-bit, PCI-E, Dual DVI/HDMI/DP - 274e (2x = 550e)

According to the benchmarks this is absolutely what I want. Two of these in Crossfire mode will guarantee insane gaming experience. But hold on, if the prices drop enough I will go for two Radeon HD 5870.

CPU:

* Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz LGA1366 BOXED - 279e

How would Core i5 750 work with the above cards?

Motherboard: I honestly don't know. One benchmark from here recommended ASRock x58 Extreme, but they don't sell that in Finland.

Anyway, I'm buying these parts from here, I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look, here are all the available LGA1366 motherboards: http://www.jimmspc.fi/listaa/416 OR from here: Long link to hintaseuranta.fi (price comparison site). I know the second link looks scary, but it's safe.

Memory: If there's anything cheap... Just give me something here that will work well with the motherboard you're hopefully recommending.

I hope the 700-750w PSU will work with this setup!

And anything else that's needed?


If there's anything I forgot I'll add. Any questions just ask.

Thanks in advance!
March 20, 2010 5:16:49 PM

TheMagicianFIN said:
Hey, I am building almost completely new system. I'm only going to save from my current build HDD, DVD drive and PSU (700w or 750w, can't recall which one it was).

I'm making up two new builds, one super system and one more affordable. Depends on certain factors which one I'll buy.

I'm not buying either of these yet, I'm waiting for a few weeks to see how the Fermi release will affect the graphics card prices. Likely the grapics card setup I've had in my mind won't change, but the price drop will feel good anyway.

Both of these builds will be used for heavy gaming and HD video playback and the occasional testing of whatever HD encoding, 3d modeling etc.

Here is what I've had in my mind for the Affordable build (~1000e, or ~$1000 as the prices are higher in euros):

Case:
What I'm looking for is a case that is quiet, has good air flow, doesn't collect much dust, is easy to clean of dust, is spacious and has easy installation for new HDDs. Here are some I've been looking at, but I can't decide which one to choose.

The prices are Euros by the way. I just copy pasted these from a text file so you don't have to care about them that much.

* Fractal Define R2 Black Pearl ATX-kotelo - 89e
* Midgard Gamer ATX-kotelo - 66e
* CM Storm Scout Gaming ATX-kotelo - 99ethis is good but its a matter of personal taste
* CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced ATX-kotelo - 95e this would be a good option based on all round specs
* Antec 200 - 59e
* Antex 300 - 50e

The Antecs are cheap, but I don't like the way you have to install HDDs.

Motherboard: I tried to look at some benchmarks and what's recommended and based on what's available I chose this:

* Gigabyte P55A-UD3(R), P55 1156, USB 3.0, SATA 6 Gb, ATX, CrossfireX - 135e its ok but it will be a limiting factor if you want to crossfire with the second pcie slot at x4 you might wanna get the ud4 version of this

CPU: I was looking at AMD Phenom II X4 965BE at first, but the benchmarks show i5 750 beats it hands down so I went with that.

* Core i5 750, 2.66GHz, LGA1156, 8MB, Boxed - 189e

CPU Cooler:

* Noctua NH-U12P SE2, LGA775/1156/1366/AM2+/AM3 - 60e
* Noctua NH-C12P SE14, LGA 775/1156/1366, AMD AM2, AM2+, AM3 - 60e
* CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus - 35e the best current bang for buck option

Anything else worth buying?

Graphics card: I currently have Nvidia's GeForce 8800GTS512, but I decided to go with ATI for this build.

* Ati Radeon HD 5850 1GB, GDDR5, 256-bit, PCI-E, Dual DVI/HDMI/DP - 274ethis is the best balance on performance right now keep with this and maybe get another 5850 when prices drop

I'll wait for the price drop and see what happens, maybe go for Radeon HD 5870. Or should I go for CrossFire? Something like 2x5770 if it's worth it.

Graphics card cooler: Do I even need one? Seems like they're pretty effective though so it could be good. Haven't really looked at anything yet.

Memory: I honestly don't know what I should get, here's some cheap ones that I just listed.

* A-Data 3x1GB, DDR3 1333MHz, CL8/CL7 - 80/82e
* A-Data 3x1GB, DDR3 1600MHz, CL9/CL8 - 82/85e
* Kingston 3x1GB, DDR3 1333MHz, CL9 - 82e
* Kingston HyperX 3x1GB, DDR3 1600MHz, CL9 - 90e
* A-Data 2x2GB, DDR3 1333MHz, CL9 - 94e
* Team Group 2 x 2GB Xtreem LV Dual-Channel Kit, DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) CL7 - 96e i have bout 10 sets of these and its the best i have used ever

I don't really want to spend more than that for memory. And I hear 1333MHz is fast enough, what should I get from the above ones?

HDD: These are just for storing video and games and whatnot.

* 2x Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200.12, 3.5", SATA II, 32MB, 7200RPM - 79e (158e)
* 2x Samsung 1TB SpinPoint F3 3.5", SATAII, 32MB, 7200RPM - 78e (156e) this si a lil cheaper but als a lil faster

Mouse: I had MX510 for 3 years before it broke, loved it

* Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse, Retail, 1800dpi - 35e

700-750w PSU would be enough for this build, right? I'd like to think so.

So there's something I've been looking for, my lack of knowledge and experience makes me unsure and doubt many of the parts as I don't know what to get really. Let me know what you recommend or would improve!


Then the Super build: Absolutely nuts, but this build would last for a long time and give an amazing gaming experience. I still have a budget here, just unsure of how big budget. So I'm looking for the cheapest parts to get a working build. Here are some changes I've been thinking about for the above build:

Graphics card in Crossfire mode:

* Ati Radeon HD 5850 1GB, GDDR5, 256-bit, PCI-E, Dual DVI/HDMI/DP - 274e (2x = 550e)

According to the benchmarks this is absolutely what I want. Two of these in Crossfire mode will guarantee insane gaming experience. But hold on, if the prices drop enough I will go for two Radeon HD 5870.

CPU:

* Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz LGA1366 BOXED - 279e

How would Core i5 750 work with the above cards?

Motherboard: I honestly don't know. One benchmark from here recommended ASRock x58 Extreme, but they don't sell that in Finland.

Anyway, I'm buying these parts from here, I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look, here are all the available LGA1366 motherboards: http://www.jimmspc.fi/listaa/416 OR from here: Long link to hintaseuranta.fi (price comparison site). I know the second link looks scary, but it's safe.

Memory: If there's anything cheap... Just give me something here that will work well with the motherboard you're hopefully recommending.

I hope the 700-750w PSU will work with this setup!

yeah its good ati reccomends 600watts or greater for crossfire 5 series cards 750 will be plenty but get a good brand like ANTEC,CORSAIR,SEASONIC,SILVERSTONE,PC POWER&COOLING

And anything else that's needed?


If there's anything I forgot I'll add. Any questions just ask.

Thanks in advance!

March 21, 2010 2:06:30 PM

Thanks for those recommendations, obsidian86.

How do you like this for the second build? Anything to improve?

Asus P6T, X58, LGA1366, DDR3, SLI / Crossfire, ATX - 225e
Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz LGA1366 BOXED - 279e
2x Ati Radeon HD 5850 1GB, GDDR5, 256-bit, PCI-E, Dual DVI/HDMI/DP - 550e (CrossFire)
CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced ATX-kotelo - 95e
Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200.12, 3.5", SATA II, 32MB, 7200RPM - 79e
Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse, Retail, 1800dpi - 35e
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) - 8e (Do I need more than 3.5g?)

It's missing Memory and CPU Cooler, because I'm still not sure what to get.

Here's the 3-channel DDR3 memory that's available: http://www.jimmspc.fi/hae/g/145/v/0/min/0/max/0/tri%20c...

I found another CPU Cooler that could be good.

* CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus - 35e
* Noctua NH-U12P SE2, LGA775/1156/1366/AM2+/AM3 - 60e
* Noctua NH-C12P SE14, LGA 775/1156/1366, AMD AM2, AM2+, AM3 - 60e
* Scythe Kama Angle Rev.B - 39e

I kinda like the Scythe Kama Angle Rev.B, but I can't find any reviews.

Total cost of the build is ~1500e

edit: What's the difference between Asus P6T and Asus P6T SE, because P6T SE is much cheaper? To me it looks like SE lacks NVidia SLI support (which I don't need) and then some. Would it be as good a board as Asus P6T? How about for overclocking?
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