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November 21, 2010 2:12:49 PM

Hello, I have a Asus M4A785-M Board I am running windows xp professional 32 bit,I just built it and I have been tinkering with it trying to get my memory to perform correctly,and my question is why is my wintec memory showing just 200 mhz and 400 mhz in CPUZ I have 4 X 1GB DDR2 PC 6400 @ 800Mhz memory, I need to be able to get the best performance possible, My son and I play Hunting games and Call of Duty 4 and these games seem to be slugesh so I set the resolution to 800X600 and that seems to help a little but when you take aim and try to fire it is difficult to get on target when you need to be on target and the characters move slow so, I really need to know how to set it up in the bios so that this memory will perform at it very best. I have a Amd Athlon x2 6400+ Windsor Black edition 3200 mhz processor Black Edition. Now I am also running this setup with a cooler master Power supply I think its about 300 or 350 watts factory,could it be causing this problem.
Here is some general info on my memory.

Thanks for your support and knowledge I appreciate it.

General Information :
DIMM0 (BANK0 ) : 1024MB - DIMM
DIMM1 (BANK1 ) : 1024MB - DIMM
DIMM2 (BANK2 ) : 1024MB - DIMM
DIMM3 (BANK3 ) : 1024MB - DIMM

Information SPD EEPROM (DIMM0) :
Manufacturer : Wintec Industries
Part Number : Unspecified
Serial Number : Unspecified
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-6400 (399MHz) - [DDR2-800]
Format : Regular UDIMM (133.35 x 3)
Size : 1024MB (2 ranks, 4 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module SLi Ready (EPP) : No
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability (EC... No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8, Self Refreshµs
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
Prefetch Buffer : 4-bit
Manufacture : 2000
Supported Frequencies : 200MHz, 266MHz, 400MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 8 clocks @ 200MHz, 11 clocks @ 266MHz, 16 clocks @ 400MHz
Min TRC : 11 clocks @ 200MHz, 14 clocks @ 266MHz, 21 clocks @ 400MHz

Information SPD EEPROM (DIMM1) :
Manufacturer : Wintec Industries
Part Number : Unspecified
Serial Number : Unspecified
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-6400 (399MHz) - [DDR2-800]
Format : Regular UDIMM (133.35 x 3)
Size : 1024MB (1 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module SLi Ready (EPP) : No
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability (EC... No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8, Self Refreshµs
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
Prefetch Buffer : 4-bit
Manufacture : 2000
Supported Frequencies : 200MHz, 266MHz, 400MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 9 clocks @ 200MHz, 12 clocks @ 266MHz, 18 clocks @ 400MHz
Min TRC : 12 clocks @ 200MHz, 16 clocks @ 266MHz, 23 clocks @ 400MHz

Information SPD EEPROM (DIMM2) :
Manufacturer : Wintec Industries
Part Number : Unspecified
Serial Number : Unspecified
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-6400 (399MHz) - [DDR2-800]
Format : Regular UDIMM (133.35 x 3)
Size : 1024MB (2 ranks, 4 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module SLi Ready (EPP) : No
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability (EC... No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8, Self Refreshµs
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
Prefetch Buffer : 4-bit
Manufacture : 2000
Supported Frequencies : 200MHz, 266MHz, 400MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 8 clocks @ 200MHz, 11 clocks @ 266MHz, 16 clocks @ 400MHz
Min TRC : 11 clocks @ 200MHz, 14 clocks @ 266MHz, 21 clocks @ 400MHz

Information SPD EEPROM (DIMM3) :
Manufacturer : Wintec Industries
Part Number : Unspecified
Serial Number : Unspecified
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-6400 (399MHz) - [DDR2-800]
Format : Regular UDIMM (133.35 x 3)
Size : 1024MB (1 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module SLi Ready (EPP) : No
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability (EC... No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8, Self Refreshµs
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
Prefetch Buffer : 4-bit
Manufacture : 2000
Supported Frequencies : 200MHz, 266MHz, 400MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 3 clocks @ 200MHz, 4 clocks @ 266MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 9 clocks @ 200MHz, 12 clocks @ 266MHz, 18 clocks @ 400MHz
Min TRC : 12 clocks @ 200MHz, 16 clocks @ 266MHz, 23 clocks @ 400MHz

Memory Controller Information :
Memory Controller : System Memory
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : No
Number of connectors : 4
Max. Module Size : 16
a b } Memory
November 22, 2010 1:36:56 PM

welcome to the forums,newcomer!

your ram is not the issue here - may i ask what GPU your using ATM?

the sluggish rates will account to your GPU's frames per second. The rams are fine...They are timed at 800MHz each module and your running both kits in dual channel thas why the frequency is shown as half the amount

e.g: PC2-6400 is actually 6400/8(bits)=800MHz - 800MHz/2 = 400MHz

latencies are 5-5-5-18 and the rest is all a-ok!

I'm sure that the Asus board can overclock your rams - though be warned! overclocking isn't covered in your manufacturer warranty.

You can run the modules in 4-4-4-12 timings.

Please note the s/n for the pair of your modules - if your experiencing the sluggish performance with other windows programs and post back here.

** EDIT : i just noticed this - your running win XP 32 bit. the maximum recognized by 32bit XP is 3GB of ram. If you want your machine to recognize a full 4GB then you'd need to install the 64bit version of XP or better yet :)  move to Windows7 x64 (or 64bit) btw, x86 is another term for 32bit
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November 22, 2010 3:38:21 PM

Hello, I wanted to say thanks for getting back with me, My gpu on this board Asus M4A785-M is ATI raedon 4200 and the graphics are great for an onboard video but where a little slugesh so I changed the resolution and that seemed to help a little ,I believe the Fps is what it is well we will make the best of it. I would say this is a great Asus board for no more than what I paid for it. It was just $67 @ Newegg, I happen to catch it with a discount. Well I was worried my memory wasn't gonna cut the mustard but it looks like this little rig is gonna be allright. I will change the timming on the memory to 4-4-4-12 and try that to see how they perform and I will probably upgrade the power supply and the OS later on and might even add a Extra video card to beef up the gaming experiance well thanks for your help. Your knowledge is appreciated.
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November 22, 2010 3:46:20 PM

Dear sir :0 please note that tweaking/changing timings on a ram is no dif tahn an Overclock...so please be warned, Oc'ing the rams will void your warranty. Furthermore make sure you have ENOUGH power from the PSU to power the PC and any OC'ing if neede.

On 2nd thoughts, can you please state your PC specs ?
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November 22, 2010 7:00:22 PM

Here you go:

Mainboard : Asus M4A785-M
Chipset : AMD 785G
Processor : AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ @ 3200MHz
Physical Memory : 4096MB (4 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : ATI Radeon HD 4200
Hard Disk : Western Digital WD800JD-75MSA1 (80GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA
DVD-Rom Drive : LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L
DVD-Rom Drive : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-870A
DVD-Rom Drive : ASUS DRW-1814BLT
Monitor Type : VF550M - 55 inches
Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RTL8168/8111 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 Service Pack 3 (32-bit)
DirectX : Version 10.00
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a b } Memory
November 22, 2010 7:17:17 PM

to get to use the full 4GB of your installed ram, i'd suggest you migrate to XP 64 bit or take a look at Windows7 64bit. It looks like Vista but is as fast a XP.

wow - 4 DVD drives - you must backup alot of stuff via dvd media

your hardware checks out, but you forgot to include the PowerSupplyUnit - PSU details and your PC case.

and do a lil research regarding tuning/Oc'ing rams via google and the overclocking section here on Tom's.
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November 22, 2010 7:39:32 PM

Hope this Helps All I know Is that this PSU is a coolermaster it came out of a coolermaster case from a friend of mine. I believe it around 300 watts or better. My case is a

Ultra X-Blaster ATX Blk Mid-T Case Form Factor: ATX Mid-Tower


Compatible Motherboards: ATX
Micro ATX
AT
Baby AT


Side Panel Type: Clear


Material: Steel


Special Features: Tool-Free Drive Bays
Quick-Release Side Panel


External 5.25" Drive Bays: 4


External 3.5" Drive Bays: 1


Internal 3.5" Drive Bays: 5


Expansion Slots: 7


Front USB Ports: 2


Front FireWire Ports: 1


Front Audio Ports: 2


120mm Fan Ports: 2


Depth: 19.5"


Width: 7.5"


Height: 17"

Heres a reading on my harware monitoring.

Hardware Monitoring : ITE IT8712F
Processor Voltage : 1.34 V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.33 V
+12V Voltage : 12.61 V
VBAT : 3.34 V
TMPIN0 : 36 °C
TMPIN1 : 42 °C
TMPIN2 : 128 °C
:
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 : Sensor DTS
Core 1 : 28 °C
Core 2 : 29 °C
:
Hard Disk Monitoring : S.M.A.R.T
Hard Disk WDC WD800JD-75MSA1 : 33 °C
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November 22, 2010 7:59:53 PM

Heres an update on my power supply that I am using:


CoolerMaster Real Power RS-350-AMSR - power supply - 350 Watt specifications
General.Device Type Power supply - Internal .Specification Compliance ATX12V 1.2 .Width 5.9 in .Depth 5.5 in .Height 3.4 in .Power Device.Input Voltage Range AC 90 - 132 / 180 - 264 V .Power Provided 350.0 Watt .Miscellaneous.MTBF 100000.0 hour(s) .Compliant Standards CE , TUV , CUL , NEMKO .Environmental Parameters.Min Operating Temperature 32 �F .Max Operating Temperature 122 �F .Sound Emission 23.0 dB
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November 23, 2010 4:37:51 AM

350W is just enough to cut the cakes icing...

when you'll want to add a dedicated grafix card, make sure you get this Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 650W or this NZXT HALE90 550W. These will do you good for future upgrades and a 80plus Gold rating ensures that your energy bills stay low and help you save a lil extra cash (on the long run). Once thas done - your good to go with a ram OC and a GPU addition.

Your pc case checks out - so you have a good thermal solution to any heat producing components.
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November 23, 2010 6:46:01 AM

Hello, I got to thinking about my Psu and remembered that I had an older Colorsit 480 that I had found at a local shop used for $15 so what I went and done is I took the coolermaster Psu out and replaced it with the colorsit 480 to try it out .Do you you think this psu will work better for me untill I can scrape up enough to upgrade?
Here are some specs . Your knowledge is appreciated.

Colorsit 480 Watt 20 or 24 Pin ATX Power Supply
12 CM Fan for Increased Cooling
Low Noise Operation
Standard ATX Power Supply
5 x Molex Connectors 1x SATA Power Connector

ATX12V , Enclosure Colour :Grey. Output Connector(s) 4 PIN internal ATX12V Connector, 15 pin Serial ATA power 24 pin ATX with detachable 4 pin section , Power Output Connectors, 1 x 15 pin Serial ATA power ,5 x 4 PIN mini-power connector , Compliant Standards CE, CSA, UL, TUV AC INPUT: 230VAC 10A 50-60Hz DC Output Max : +3.3v, 28A, +5v, 35A, +12v, 25A, -5v, 0.5A, -12v, 0.8A, +5VSB, 2.5A


Update on Hardware Monitoring with Colorsit 480 Psu

Hardware Monitoring : ITE IT8712F
Processor Voltage : 1.34 V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.38 V
+12V Voltage : 12.86 V
VBAT : 3.34 V
TMPIN0 : 38 °C
TMPIN1 : 44 °C
TMPIN2 : 128 °C
:
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 : Sensor DTS
Core 1 : 34 °C
Core 2 : 34 °C
:
Hard Disk Monitoring : S.M.A.R.T
Hard Disk WDC WD800JD-75MSA1 : 35 °C
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November 23, 2010 11:24:40 AM

nope, don't do that - you'll most likely blow up your rig with the colorsit. Keep the coolermaster that you have - just don't do any ram tweaking unless you have a higher psu.

I'm discouraging the colorsit cos of the 12v rails. I don't think its even certified...the amps also look kinda weird - much like thermaltakes litepower series PSU's. Your sure to blow up your new gpu (when you put it in your rig).
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November 23, 2010 9:39:10 PM

Hello,
I appreciate your advice and I will go ahead and put the coolermaster Psu back in, to be on the safe side. and just try to deal with that Psu for the time being, I sure don't won't to blow up my rig, thanks

Your Knowledge is appreciated.
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a b } Memory
November 24, 2010 6:18:56 AM

We're here to help :)  your welcome for all the thanks. Keep the recommendations, I've made, in mind when you get them - only THEN do you introduce a GPU/ make an Overclock - and don't forget to choose the best answer.
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November 24, 2010 4:29:38 PM

Best answer selected by wade36.
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a b } Memory
November 24, 2010 4:36:03 PM

and thank YOU ! PM me if you need anything :) 
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November 24, 2010 4:48:11 PM

Your Welcome ,

Can you give me some recomendations for as the Memory and processor and video card upgrades go, for my system Asus M4A785-M What would be the very best for my MB? I may want to max it out eventually.Thanks

Ps:I have never set up a raid arraybefore but I am interested in that to.

Your knowledge is appreciated.
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a b } Memory
November 24, 2010 5:22:58 PM

You can invest in a hexa core athlon II x6 1090T - my net's acting up - i can't tell about your ram but i think its DDR2 - so you can OC' the modules to run at 1066MHz or a lil above that. EDIT - you could a quad channel kit for your mobo of 4x 2GB DDR2 1066Mhz modules. Thas the highest DDR2 ram frequencies available. To get stock rams above 1066Mhz you'll need to venture into DDR3 rams - something your board isn't capable of digesting.

though my personal favorite is the ATi HD5770 1Gb DDR5 Grafix card. The GPU can move onto a new build (which ofcourse will be of near/full maxedout potential). Buying ram/cpu will seem pointless in a while. SO its best you splash cash on hardware of its time but hang on until prices drop. Another option is to get an ATi HD6870.

RAID - you can start another thread and ask this over at the storage section in Tom's but heres something to get you started in asking the right question - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/259807-32-raid

So CPU and ram (limted to DDR2 with the current mobo) and GPU thas why i opted to wait for a whole avoerhaul while the only money you spend is on a single mid to high-end GPU.

another note - take a look at the overcloking guide in tom's - you'll know what you'll need to get going
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November 24, 2010 5:47:47 PM

Thanks,
Your knowledge is appreciated.

I will do some research,and check out the (hexa core athlon II x6 1090T) and the GPU. It is pretty exciteing tinkering around with these computers. I have always been facinated with electronics. But I never thought that one day, :)  I would end up building my own.

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