How fast is the 480 GTX from nvidia?

The final numbers aren't out yet but the answer to that question appears to be no. It should be faster than the HD5870 but not particularly close to the HD5970.

I would rather wait for the 495 gtx or whatever they are gonna call it.

The 495 would be quite a high power part. 400W+ would be my initial guess.

Nobody knows yet. A lot of people are throwing in thier oponions, but nobody realy knows anything yet.

I have extreme doubts about the existence of a GTX 495...

Likely nVidia will tweak this arch. ASP and release a whole new name for that, so I expect the next dual GPU part from them to be a GTX 595.

But like everything with the new series from nVidia, that's just a guess.

I have NO DOUBT Nvidia will release a dual gpu card. For example, Look at the new ATI Ares, for that matter the 5970. ATI didn't bother stripping down a few things or use two 5850's/5830's for the 5970. They use two gpu's that are rated at 181 watts. Yes I know they are underclocked, but in the same vain I have seen tests where a o/c 5870 gpu pulls as much as 220 watts. They do what they need to do, the GTX 295 is a flagship model, a media darling, LOL, they are going to have a successor for it. It puts Nvidia in the news and sells more cards.

The GTX 295 was only possible thanks to a smaller process, 55nm. That is why it took forever for it to come out. The GTX 480 is already on a new process, and the next one isn't due for awhile.

ATI could barely make a dual GPU card, nVidia wont have this option because it simply wont perform.

IMO, it will perform. The NF200 exists in part to do this, its what does the magic on the GTX295 between the two gpu's.
This is Nvidia's FORTE, they ABSOLUTELY will engineer this, and trumpet its awesomeness.

One card needs a 600+Watt PSU. Two will need 800+.

If the card draws over 225Watts on load, they'll need a 6+8-pin design. ATI can get away with downclocking 181watts to 150 watts, just like nVidia did with the 9800GT to get it to an Eco version. However, a simple downclock won't save nVidia 80+watts.

We realy, realy need to shut up. Nobody knows. You guys are all talking out you're ass. Fermi could be a combination of Juesus, and Superman, and it could be a total piece of crap. NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING NOW. Honestly, this is just a pointless fanboy fight, that has no grounding in fact or reason.

We've seen articles; we've had quotes from nVidia; we've had pre-order prices, what more do you want?

I want a rewiew from Tom's/Anand/Hardware canucks. That is the ONLY thing I will accept before the debate can be legtimized.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/03/01/fermi-power-requ...


http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/01/17/nvidia-gf100-tak...

Don't know what to believe; but we do know some things.
1. The chip is huge.
2. Huge chips require huge power.
3. It'll be expensive.

All right. I just think this is all therotical and pointless untill we see some 2560x1600 Crysis benchmarks comparing the GTX 480 to a 5870 CF. And that is the only thing that matters.

How about something right from Nvidia, would that work?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/06/nvidia-gtx-480-makes...

Nope. An unbiased third party would be far better.

nVidia is biasing their own benchmarks. Before they were taken, they optimize Unigene HEAVEN to get a 30% better performance boost. Then there's the fact that, since the GTX480 has no dedicated tessellation unit, it sacrifices shaders. If it does that, it won't be able to handle DX11 + good features of DX9.

I don't trust any benchamrks from Nvidia. They are liekly to be baised. Once again, if the 800$ GTX 480 can beat the 760$ 5870 CF in a 2560x1600 Crysis bencmark, done by a trusted site, (Toms) then the GTX 480 will win the honor of being placed on Bob's recomended list of cards.

nope, one game doesn't cut it, you need a few games to see the performance difference

Nope, Crysis is the ultimate benchmrak.. The least we need is A Crysis Benchamrk. Before there is a Crysis benchamrk, we realy can't talk. Crysis is the Officail real world gaming benchmark. Synthetetcs, and Hello Kitty Island Adventure don't realy matter to me.

Considering that every game besides Crysis became CPU-bound when the HD5870 was released, Crysis is the way to go.

That is not true, nvidia does have dedicated tesselation units. The only problem is that they are tied to the 16 Streaming Multiprocessor blocks and if what some are saying is correct to utilise any of them will need that SM to do their part. So if the SM blocks are busy with other duties they tesslators or rather the polymorph engines will sit doing nothing or so is assumed.

Don't you think it tells you something that the GTX480 DIDN'T blow away the 5870 in they very meager test? Max fps about the same, min fps did a little better. Now we just need to see what they are going to be priced at and of course some independent benches.

+1. Crysis is the universal game benchamrk. Before we Bitch about/Praise fermi, we realy need a Unbiased Crysis High Res benchamrk. Like I said before, if the GTX 480 (800$) can beat the 5870 CF (760$) , It will have the honor of being placed on Bob's recomneded list of cards. Current Gpus on that list?

The Radeon 4850 1gb.

The Radeon 5770 1gb.

The Radeon 4850 Xfire.

The Radeon 5850.

The Radeon 5870.

The Radeon 5970 was on the list, when it was 650$, but dut to Faling 5870 prices (380$), and rasing 5970 (700$+) prices, it has lost that honor.

The 5870CF,

wich is 760$, andless than 60$ more than current, 5970 price. And the 5970 isn't even aviable at the 700$+ price right now.

Even if this is biased it good to see a working product at least, competition, will be good for gamers.

and I'm sure the 480gtx will not be an 5870cf, and i also doubt the 480gtx will be $800 unless nvidia wants 15 customers

Whatever. I realy don't care about the price of the GTX 480. it justs needs to outprform the similarly priced ATI products in a Crysis bencmark. If they price it at 100$, i want to see it beat a 4850 1gb. If they price it at 800$, i want to see it beat a 5870 CF. If they price it at 600$, i want to see it beat a 5850 CF. if they price it at 300$, i want ot see it beat a 5770 Cf/5850.

Honestly, if i were to grade hte GTX 480, i would need to see Peak power, Idle power, and Crysis speed, against ATi products at the same speed.

80% Speed.

15% Idle power.

5% Peak power.

Curiosity has gotten the better of me, Who are you Bob?

I spend most of my time in the overclocking forum so I don't know what your credentials are.

Oh he ain't nobody.

Now me on the other hand...

New Rule: No more Fermi threads from n00bz, use Google or READ the BIG Massive sticky on the subject, that's why it's there FFS !!