Gateway SX2800-01 Upgrading Graphics Card+ Powersupply

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Well I have Had the sx2800-01 For Over A year Now I knew from the start that the Graphics card was Not made for my genre of GamePlay Since I do not Know Much about graphics cards And I'm Looking but having No luck I decided to Try Here.

My Computer
http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/gateway-sx2800-01/4505-3118_7-33699400.html


As my 19th Birthday is 2 weeks Away I want to Order A graphic card and Power Supply Being that its only 220w and I know Any graphics card that really will do something will fry fast with the stock 220w.

What Am i Playing?
World of Warcraft
Starcraft 1 /2 ( Beta)
Diablo's


What I'm Willing to spend
50-100$ On a Gamers Graphic Card
50$ On a power Supply that you feel would fit the card


As I do Not know Anything About graphics cards I ask you the Community Of Tom's Hardware To lend me a hand and set me up for gaming.

My big Winner Would be A Graphics card that Would Waste Out Any Game By blizzard I'm Currently Fine in 10 man raids But when it Comes to 25 man raids Its hit and miss.

Thank you so much to All who Read and Respond
~ Matt
 
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Definitely not the 9500GT.

The 9600GT, like the 9800GT, runs very hot. The HD5570 uses less than 50Watts of power, yet the 9600GT/9800GT use over 75. This is going to produce more heat.

Ultimately, you have two options.

Speed: 9800GT
Cooling/Reliability: HD5570.

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Thanks Shadow I'll keep that In mind

Actaully Have moved My spending price On a graphics card up to 150$ A little bit over that won't break the wallet but ya please keep the help coming

~ matt
 
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The problem is that your case is a slim-line version. Only certain graphics cards will fit.

Believe it or not, I'm actually running a full-size HD4650 in mine. I just haven't had the case on, but it fits. Can only use 1x HDMI as well. But I'm assuming you don't want a few inches of video card sticking out of your case.

The best card for you is the Low-Profile HD5570 or the nVid 9800GT Eco Low-Profile.
 
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I understand I feel Really Dumb About My first Post I forgot To post Low-Profile Cards.

Cards I'm Looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131341&cm_re=hd5570-_-14-131-341-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102829&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=
http://www.amazon.com/Sparkle-SX98GT512D3L-NM-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B001T26QMY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1267968483&sr=8-2

And Psu's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151070&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=
Also the One you Listed



As far as the cards Go Im not sure what they need for a psu.



 
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Also Looked at this because of a response from a reviewer

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like another reviewer, I installed this in my Gateway SX2800 with a stock 220W power supply. It barely fit in the slimline case and the fan-side of the card has almost no room to breathe. It runs a bit hot (it spends most of the time between 50 and 65 degrees Celsius according to SpeedFan). And the fan gets pretty loud when the card is pushed. With all of that said, everything seems to be working fine and my Windows graphics performance score has jumped from 3.6 to 6.7! My Passmark scores have also shot up. This is a major improvement over the integrated Intel 4500 graphics.

http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5271084&CatId=3670

Idk if that would be worth risking
 
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Alright Shadow187,

I'm trying to keep My options Open and I thank you so much for Helping me Trying to get it off amazon because my grandma gets 1/3 of it back for Her Kindle Lol.

So i ask for your Input One more time

http://www.amazon.com/Sparkle-SX96GT512D3L-NM-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B001RELWZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1267979919&sr=8-1
or
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5406478&pagenumber=6&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=#ReviewStart
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The 5570

You seem to know your stuff and That's what I'm looking for.

Sorry if this becomes annoying
 
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Definitely not the 9500GT.

The 9600GT, like the 9800GT, runs very hot. The HD5570 uses less than 50Watts of power, yet the 9600GT/9800GT use over 75. This is going to produce more heat.

Ultimately, you have two options.

Speed: 9800GT
Cooling/Reliability: HD5570.

 
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Alright

ty very much man I will go with the hd5570 Not going to take a chance on the 9800gt Being that my spu is only 220w
 
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I have the same slimeline gateway sx2800-01 and have been very happy with the machine. I have started gaming a bit more and wanted to upgrade the vid card. upon doing some research I found a lot of people recommending the HD5570 and I bought http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102874 which arrived in the mail today.

being fairly new to upgrading, i forgot about upgrading my psu. many people including this thread have stated and reference 300w psu's. the card above that i bought states on the box that I need a 400watt psu.

any advice? would be much appreciated. thanks,

Sasquatch
 
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I also have the same computer and want to do the same so I can play Starcraft 2.

Just curious- if I install the nVid 9800GT or Radeon HD5570 but DON'T change the power supply, what's the risk? I mean, it's not like the computer is gonna explode...right?
 
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I have a small form factor pc (Gateway SX) with a tiny little power supply (220w) and 2 expansion slots, 1 pci-e, and one that is half the size of the other slot.

I read tons of reviews and needed something both low profile, and that wont run hot, I wanted to be able to play Starcraft 2.

I haven't gotten the game yet but I got the video card and it bumped my windows experience index from 4.3 to 6.7

The video card I got from Newegg for approx $100 (after tax and shipping) and it is a Sapphire Radeon HD5570 PCI-E 2.1 with 1GB DDR3.

I havent tested it under gaming conditions but it fit in the slot perfectly. I use a 32" lcd TV (Toshiba) as my monitor, and I haven't tested any games or dvd, and I can't really attest to the performance or heat - but the card seems dam cool.

It seems to me that this is a great choice for performance for people with these limitations (space and power supply). The card has a built in fan so that should help keep things cool.
 
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Hi there, I have recently got same SX series machine and want to upgrade the display card.
I know that you have a successful installation of the display card. May I ask if you need to upgrade the Power Supply at all?? Is it really necessary? I am kinda wondering whether I need a more powerful PSU or not before I add in a display card.

Hope to learn from your experience soon. Thanks.
 
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Hey, it seems as though you definitely would need a more powerful PSU for this graphics card, but the problem is they don't really have psu's that are more powerful that would fit this tower, trust me I tried - this tower does not let you upgrade anything, and I ended up trading it to someone on craigslist who could build me a tower that is able to play starcraft 2. The psu is only like 220w and it seems like you really need almost 400 watts but the shape of the box for the psu inside this tower is like custom and noone makes a tiny psu that fits into it. hopefully this helps
 
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