Which ram to get for the uber build

[wesley-mcg-]

right now i have the asus rampage 3 extreme, 980x, v6gt with delta fans, asus matrix 5870 that i plan on replacing with an asus ares 5870x2 and possibly a second asus ares if its still in stock at newegg with a 1200w psu (i can run 2 of those with a 1200w right?) as for ram i had planned on 12 gigs of corsair 1600mhz 9-9-9-24 but i have faulty set and am going to rma it, im thinking about taking another risk and getting this set http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145318
but right now its out of stock theres a vid on newegg where they used 2 sets of that ram on a nearly identical setup + i want to make a godly rig, but since its unavailable i ws thinking ocz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227573&cm_re=ocz_ddr3_6gb_1600-_-20-227-573-_-Product <--- could i fit 2 sets of these under my v6gt?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227575&cm_re=ocz_ddr3_6gb-_-20-227-575-_-Product <-- is the extra cooling stuff on this really necessary?

also will a super rig be fine with the above ocz ram or does every part have to unnecessarily powerful?

would 2 sets of the above ocz 1600 6-8-6-24 be faster than 1 set (3 x 4gb) 12gb 1600mhz 9-9-9-24

 

[jaquith]

I replied on both posts. I tell you it is a very r-a-r-e time when you have a bad Corsair, and 'oddly' you RAM works - but there's some odd thing going on with your MOBO.

I would send a ticket into Corsair.

 

[andrern2000]

right now i have the asus rampage 3 extreme, 980x, v6gt with delta fans, asus matrix 5870 that i plan on replacing with an asus ares 5870x2 and possibly a second asus ares if its still in stock at newegg with a 1200w psu (i can run 2 of those with a 1200w right?) as for ram i had planned on 12 gigs of corsair 1600mhz 9-9-9-24 but i have faulty set and am going to rma it, im thinking about taking another risk and getting this set http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145318
but right now its out of stock theres a vid on newegg where they used 2 sets of that ram on a nearly identical setup + i want to make a godly rig, but since its unavailable i ws thinking ocz

Course, the Corsair is good. It comes with a fan heatsink. The cost is expensive, though..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227573&cm_re=ocz_ddr3_6gb_1600-_-20-227-573-_-Product <--- could i fit 2 sets of these under my v6gt?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227575&cm_re=ocz_ddr3_6gb-_-20-227-575-_-Product <-- is the extra cooling stuff on this really necessary?

These two look nice. The cheaper one (2nd link) even comes with a heatsink. What do u mean? Imho an extra heatsink is better.

also will a super rig be fine with the above ocz ram or does every part have to unnecessarily powerful?

would 2 sets of the above ocz 1600 6-8-6-24 be faster than 1 set (3 x 4gb) 12gb 1600mhz 9-9-9-24

Yes, it'd be fine with any types of memory. Good brands provides better customer support in case you have to RMA them and grants less chance of defective memory. But in normal working conditions, all brands of memory is good and it does not to be "brand-dependant" to be powerful. OCZ Ram will work exactly the same like Corsair. Even cheap memory will work same performance as Corsair, as long as the spec are the same.

ocz 1600 6-8-6-24 2 sets vs. 1 set (3 x 4gb) 12gb 1600mhz 9-9-9-24, let's see:
Tighter timings, but it comes in two sets. And loose timings, but one set. I guess that still makes Tighter timings win. Loose timings as far as CAS 6 to CAS 9. As far as I know, two set puts more strain on the mobo, but I don't know whether this 'strain' affects the memory performance. Maybe additional info from others will shed some light.

 

[jaquith]

Out of the pan and into the fire with OCZ, they're almost as bad as the Patriots which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to being problematic and producing bad sticks.

In order: Corsair, G.SKILL, Mushkin, Kingston --> Budget RAM Crucial.

Side-by-Side - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006077&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=147|20-231-406^20-231-406-TS,20-231-358^20-231-358-TS,20-226-121^20-226-121-TS,20-226-124^20-226-124-TS,20-231-331^20-231-331-TS

Take a close look at Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998805

 

[andrern2000]

Really? I don't know about that. But Patriot produces good memory quality as far as I know because their Patriot sector 7 is among the best for gamers.

Btw, from your comparison G.SKILL PI Series 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory ~ $299.99 is hexa-channel memory. Which means $150 for three-channel. I think that is a good buy, because you get all 6 sticks with identical spec.

P.S After checking it again, the G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory is better. One set of 12 GB with cheaper price ($269.00) than 6 x 2 GB. This is better than my above. Sorry for my above this one is better.

 

[jaquith]

Their newer lines are driving me nuts; I can 'feel' Patriot before the OP tells me 'Patriot.' I would never use them in my builds {Corsair, G.SKILL, & Mushkin}.

I am not convinced the OP actually has 'bad' RAM -> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/282924-30-unlock-asus-rampage-extreme something 'feels' wrong, maybe the QPI needs to be raised a couple of notches. An under voltage or BIOS or connection issue can cause the leds to light-up. I had a GA that lit-up like a Xmas tree but other than a H/W issue {small thing} with all 10 MOBOs it was peachy.

 

[wesley-mcg-]

i dont use gskill or mushkin because of past experiences, true corsair has a 99.9% chance to fail, with the r3e people theres a bunch of people that claim the dominator ram doesnt like it but most of the people that write reviews on newegg are the people that got a fualty product so they have nothing better to do since they cant game. never had a problem with ocz though

theres is something definitely wrong with either my ram or my mobo since my mobo is pointing the finger at the ram (the red light) its going to be the first try.

one nice thing about ram is that it doesnt require drivers just plug it in and if it works it works! and if it doesnt return it and find a set that does!

back on topic...

would 6gigs of the ocz ram be fine for the godly rig or no?

 

[andrern2000]

6 gigs of ocz, lemme see...

.. ...yes, for now, 6GB and you're "GODLIKE". But pluge in 12GB to be even "BEYOND GODLIKE" Holy-sh**.

Now where do I hear those lines from? [:andrern2000]
So yeah, 6GB is godly for now.

 

[wesley-mcg-]

6 gigs of ocz, lemme see...

.. ...yes, for now, 6GB and you're "GODLIKE". But pluge in 12GB to be even "BEYOND GODLIKE" Holy-sh**.

Now where do I hear those lines from? [:andrern2000]
So yeah, 6GB is godly for now.

you keep saying "for now" <---- what does this mean? is it gonna bottleneck me or what?

 

[lynnabelone]

well, there are various way to upgrade your mother board and memory like you can buy the new processor and bring new processor they are gonna definetly help you to bring you the good news.


http://www.linkedin.com/answers/browse/marketing-sales/sales/lead-generation/MAR_SLS_LGN

 

[andrern2000]

"for now" I meant maybe 4-5 years later the apps would have required more RAM. That's when you need to add more RAM.

But today's requirement is 4GB already plenty. Starcraft II uses 1.8GB of RAM. Coupled with Windows 7 (~800MB) you need at least 3 GB of RAM for that.
So 6GB is more than enough.

I couldn't tell when the requirement will go past 4GB, maybe 3 years, maybe 4, or 5,.. If it were me, I hope it wouldn't increase forever, so I don't need to keep upgrading my RAM.

 

[wesley-mcg-]

"for now" I meant maybe 4-5 years later the apps would have required more RAM. That's when you need to add more RAM.

But today's requirement is 4GB already plenty. Starcraft II uses 1.8GB of RAM. Coupled with Windows 7 (~800MB) you need at least 3 GB of RAM for that.
So 6GB is more than enough.

I couldn't tell when the requirement will go past 4GB, maybe 3 years, maybe 4, or 5,.. If it were me, I hope it wouldn't increase forever, so I don't need to keep upgrading my RAM.

oh okay i started getting thoughts that the mobo would be talking to me saying "MMMMOOOAAARR!!!!"