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April 19, 2012 3:29:32 AM

So originally I bought a WD Live 2TB drive with the hopes that I would be able to use it as network storage. Now, I knew that it didn't have iSCSI and all the other fancy features, but it was relatively cheap and has a decent amount of storage (2TB).

The problem is that it's slow, I mean it's damn slow. It's so slow that transferring files over USB 2.0 to a Seagate Freeagent is actually faster than using Gigabit Ethernet. So now I'm looking for a replacement with iSCSI.

I've narrowed it down to the following:

QNAP TS-119PII
QNAP TS-219PII
Netgear RNDU2000-100NAS
Thecus N2200XXX

The last one is beyond the range of what I want to pay, but it came highly recommended.

The other question is are these worth the price, or would I be better off going even higher to something like the QNAP TS-259Pro or Synology DS712+. Both of those are really more than I would like to pay, but will if the extra GbE and features are worth it.

Primary uses are networked "local" storage, and at some point, iSCSI for ESXi. As a result, throughput is the the most important thing, followed shortly after by cost. Things like a DLNA server and torrent client are extras that I probably won't even use.

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April 19, 2012 9:15:03 PM

Is this forum inactive? Lots of questions pending answers.
April 20, 2012 10:42:51 PM

sk1939 said:
So originally I bought a WD Live 2TB drive with the hopes that I would be able to use it as network storage. Now, I knew that it didn't have iSCSI and all the other fancy features, but it was relatively cheap and has a decent amount of storage (2TB).

The problem is that it's slow, I mean it's damn slow. It's so slow that transferring files over USB 2.0 to a Seagate Freeagent is actually faster than using Gigabit Ethernet. So now I'm looking for a replacement with iSCSI.

I've narrowed it down to the following:

QNAP TS-119PII
QNAP TS-219PII
Netgear RNDU2000-100NAS
Thecus N2200XXX

The last one is beyond the range of what I want to pay, but it came highly recommended.

The other question is are these worth the price, or would I be better off going even higher to something like the QNAP TS-259Pro or Synology DS712+. Both of those are really more than I would like to pay, but will if the extra GbE and features are worth it.

Primary uses are networked "local" storage, and at some point, iSCSI for ESXi. As a result, throughput is the the most important thing, followed shortly after by cost. Things like a DLNA server and torrent client are extras that I probably won't even use.


If you need iSCSI for this unit, check this out:
http://www.intelisan.com/ldisk.html
It will give you iSCSI, faster data transfer and might solve your problem.
Good luck...
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April 21, 2012 4:31:10 AM

BobJ_72 said:
If you need iSCSI for this unit, check this out:
http://www.intelisan.com/ldisk.html
It will give you iSCSI, faster data transfer and might solve your problem.
Good luck...


Interesting suggestion, and something to consider, but the problem is I don't have a box right now that can run that. I would have to build a box which is considerably more than any of the NAS appliances I listed. The problem is that the server I have running file server applications is a full fledged Server 2008 box, but it uses Ultra320 drives and is EoL. I really am looking for something that is less power hungry, and considerably smaller/less noisy.
April 21, 2012 5:15:01 AM

sk1939 said:
Interesting suggestion, and something to consider, but the problem is I don't have a box right now that can run that. I would have to build a box which is considerably more than any of the NAS appliances I listed. The problem is that the server I have running file server applications is a full fledged Server 2008 box, but it uses Ultra320 drives and is EoL. I really am looking for something that is less power hungry, and considerably smaller/less noisy.

You can add this LDisk iSCSI Add-in to either WD DX4000 or LaCie office+ and it will give you a NAS+iSCSI SAN+Backup. None of these other boxes give you all that. I have used both Office+ and DX4000 with LDisk and they both worked fine for me. LaCie has two GiGe ports and give you a better performance. If you do not care about the backup those other boxes might do the job, but I am not familiar with these other boxes.
April 21, 2012 5:33:04 AM

Would love to get the WD DX4000 (not a fan of LaCie, although they always look nice) but it's way beyond my price range for this particular project. I know for a fact that the QNAP TS-219PII, QNAP TS-259Pro and Synology DS712+ have iSCSI targets (between 10 and 40), but I don't know about what kind of performance to expect (actual Disk to LAN to Disk random transfer of files using NTFS).
April 21, 2012 3:39:39 PM

If you are into building your own, here is another option. Buy these pieces and put them together:
HW:
1- HP Microserver ~($200 to $250) gives you one 250G disk
2- 1 to 3 additional SATA disks
SW:
3- WHS-2011 (NAS+Backup)~($50)
4- InteliSAN LDisk (iSCSI) ($59)

HP box has a pretty good performance and motherboard RAID 0 or 1.
April 21, 2012 11:19:03 PM

BobJ_72 said:
If you are into building your own, here is another option. Buy these pieces and put them together:
HW:
1- HP Microserver ~($200 to $250) gives you one 250G disk
2- 1 to 3 additional SATA disks
SW:
3- WHS-2011 (NAS+Backup)~($50)
4- InteliSAN LDisk (iSCSI) ($59)

HP box has a pretty good performance and motherboard RAID 0 or 1.



Interesting suggestion. I saw the HP Microserver on Newegg, but last time I looked it was the same price as the NAS device, but it is more flexible without a doubt. I can also probably skip the WHS-2011 since I have several fully licensed copies of Server 2008 R2 I can use. I really like the look of the MicroServer though, and the flexibility, the only question is, is it worth the cost?


What I'm looking at currently:

HP ProLiant N40L MicroServer (would complement the DL360G5 and DL145G2 I have already)

$283

or

QNAP TS-219-PII-US

$270

or

LianLi PC-Q25B
Jetway JNF99FL-525LF
Kingston 1GB DDR3

$309


Thoughts?
April 22, 2012 12:30:29 AM

sk1939 said:
Interesting suggestion. I saw the HP Microserver on Newegg, but last time I looked it was the same price as the NAS device, but it is more flexible without a doubt. I can also probably skip the WHS-2011 since I have several fully licensed copies of Server 2008 R2 I can use. I really like the look of the MicroServer though, and the flexibility, the only question is, is it worth the cost?


What I'm looking at currently:

HP ProLiant N40L MicroServer (would complement the DL360G5 and DL145G2 I have already)

$283

or

QNAP TS-219-PII-US

$270

or

LianLi PC-Q25B
Jetway JNF99FL-525LF
Kingston 1GB DDR3

$309


Thoughts?


Well.....
-Now I am not sure if you want to have a Storage or Server? 2008R2 will give you a server and not really a storage. If you want a storage, lowest cost OS is WHS-2011 and it will give you NAS and Backup and all you need to add is iSCSI.
-If you are comparing HP Microserver with the other boxes, you need to make them 2G memory and 250G drive that comes with HP to have apple to apple comparison.
- The QNAP box you listed only holds 2 drives, but that all depends on how much storage you need...
- Like the Jettway board since it gives you RAID-5, so those pieces seems the best. As anything else, best choice always cost the most...
April 22, 2012 1:29:26 AM

Storage is the goal. I only mention Server 2008 R2 because as I said, I already have the licenses for Enterprise and Datacenter which would allow me to save the $50 since it already includes Windows Storage Server 2008 R2.

Adding another gig to the custom build only adds $9 to the price tag.

Well, looking towards the future I would like at least 2TB, probably 3TB, plus redundancy via RAID 1.

That's why I chose it (also has dual Gigabit LAN with Intel NICS). Although dosen't the HP also support RAID 5?

Between the HP and the Jetway then, which would you choose?
April 22, 2012 7:00:56 AM

HP doesnot support RAID5. R1 or R0 only.
If it is in your budget: Jetway package, but u need 3 or 4 disk for RAID5
If not: HP package with RAID1
Both with WHS-2011
Start with that and if you wanted iSCSI, get InteliSAN LDisk later.
Good luck...
April 22, 2012 5:33:28 PM

Well I'm really leaning towards the HP since I can grab it for about $200 thanks to an Amazon gift card, although the inability to run RAID 5 bothers me a bit, although I could always run Solaris 11 and use ZFS and RAID-Z.

I could do this for the same price as the HP, the only question is it worth it over the HP.

CPU/Motherboard
Case
RAM (2x)

Total: $257

Will add the following to it (already own):

Dual Gigabit NIC
Hard Drives (3x Initially)
!