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March 21, 2010 5:56:37 PM

So i'm looking to build a system for gaming and normal use. I'm going to be working this summer (i'm 15) and making at least $1000 (prob $1500) plus my other $500 i have saved, so it must be below that point and include a monitor, keyboard, mouse

I would realy like to go with amd for my prodessor but if there is a good deal on intel then i might take that. also i already have a mouse but its pretty low quality, need a new one. My currently selected parts are below.

AMD Athlon II X4 620 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $100

Western Digital Scorpio Blue 640 gb 5400rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $90

Patriot G Series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $110

ASUS M4A785 mother board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $80

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 700 watt psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $100

xfx hd 5770 xxx edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $175

APEVIA X-DREAMER3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $60

Sony dvd/cd drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $23

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 cpu cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $35

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $18

acer 1600x900 monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $115

Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $10

Rosewill keyboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $15

windows 7 64bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $100


price $1031

What do you think? im willing to upgrade parts if needed, u may also think that he psu is overkill but its future proof for a new cpu or video card, also i think that card is perfect for that res.

all replies are greatly apreciated, thank you

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March 21, 2010 6:35:33 PM

dominnater said:
So i'm looking to build a system for gaming and normal use. I'm going to be working this summer (i'm 15) and making at least $1000 (prob $1500) plus my other $500 i have saved, so it must be below that point and include a monitor, keyboard, mouse

I would realy like to go with amd for my prodessor but if there is a good deal on intel then i might take that. also i already have a mouse but its pretty low quality, need a new one. My currently selected parts are below.

AMD Athlon II X4 620 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $100

Western Digital Scorpio Blue 640 gb 5400rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $90

this is a laptop hard drive[ take this instead SEAGATE 1TB

Patriot G Series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $110

the ram is over priced here is a better set and faster G.skill ddr3

ASUS M4A785 mother board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $80

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 700 watt psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $100

cooler master is a lil iffy

xfx hd 5770 xxx edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $175

APEVIA X-DREAMER3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $60

this is okish but how bout this COMBO

Sony dvd/cd drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $23

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 cpu cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $35

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $18

acer 1600x900 monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $115

Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $10

Rosewill keyboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $15

windows 7 64bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $100


price $1031

What do you think? im willing to upgrade parts if needed, u may also think that he psu is overkill but its future proof for a new cpu or video card, also i think that card is perfect for that res.

all replies are greatly apreciated, thank you

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March 21, 2010 6:42:53 PM


ok looks good but im a little conserned over the psu, would it be future proof? but i like the ram and the case and def the hd
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March 21, 2010 6:51:58 PM

Obsidian86 put together a great build for you, if you need more money you can cut down on the GPU since you don't play on a high resolution. Or if you can, get a 1680x1050 or a 1900x1200 screen (might need a better GPU for better performance on the latter resolution, like 5850)
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March 21, 2010 6:57:10 PM

IMO the PSU is good, I can't see why you'll need more in the future. You can always upgrade if needed, a PSU doesn't cost you a fortune
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March 21, 2010 6:59:07 PM

A couple of things about your build.

1. 5400 RPM hard drives are slow, look for 7200 RPM.2
2. USB 3.0 and sata 6GB is where it's at.
3. 5770 XXX edition is a waste.
4. Power supply is crap! (Look for corsair, PC Power n cooling, Antec, silverstone, seasonic and OCZ)
5. case is a preference, although I prefer the one I suggested below better.


Here's the best gaming PC you can get for $1k.

Total comes to $1022 and $967 after MIRS, free shipping (woot!) sorry you can't see the price in the pic, it wouldn't fit! =(



*EDIT* Or you can get a cheap $20 case (A case is a case, doesn't do much...) and then put the extra $40 towards a 1920 x 1080 res monitor, now were talking!
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March 21, 2010 7:04:09 PM

Ditch that HDD and get one of these 500GB or another 640GB. Yours is a slow laptop HDD.

That motherboard (which is actually the exact one I have) doesn't support DDR3 memory, so you have to make a choice.
If you want to keep the DDR2, I would get this Gigabyteboard (it's almost identical to that ASUS) and this DDR2 memory. If you want to go to DDR3, then you could flip a coin between these 2 mobo's: Gigabyte or MSI or you could spend a little more and get this full ATX board and have the option to add another video card later. With either of those 3 boards, I would reccomend this DDR3 memory.

I would also ditch that case. Antec 300 and one of these fans would be better.

You won't need that much thermal paste and I'd switch to this ceramique.

I don't know much about the monitor market, but I would probably get something that can do a little more than 900 on the vertical. Your preferance though.

Hope this helps. It took a lot longer than I was expecting:) 
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March 21, 2010 7:10:25 PM

whitefang said:
USB 3.0 and sata 6GB is where it's at.


USB 3.0 will be nice but unless you have a solid state and until solid states start moving data at over 3 GB/s, sataIII is pointless.
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March 21, 2010 7:13:44 PM

Brady the motherboards you selected aren't that good IMO.

Micro ATX are all fails. And the full ATX board you selected is 785G which doesn't OC as good as 770 and it's $10 more then the better mobo I selected that has USB 3.0 and sata 6GB's.

*EDIT* And don't get that HD brady selected, the 7200.12 barracuda is a lot better. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 21, 2010 7:24:07 PM

That actually brings up a good point... hey dominator, do you plan on OCing?

I haven't heard that the 770's OC better, although I haven't really looked into. Anyway, I am really happy with my 785G micro ATX board. I went from 2.8 GHz to 3.8GHz without much effort. Although I ran into some issues going higher and I would not recommend ASUS boards anymore, atleast the 5 phase boards.
The nice thing about the Gigabyte board you recommended is its 10 phase power setup. That will be nice when you start cranking up the vcore to the 1.5v range. The downside is that is only has 1 PCI-E slot, so no adding a second card.

I just picked the cheapest HDD on the 7200rpm 500GB list. They are all 7200 rpm so I really doubt you would see much, if any real world difference in performance.
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March 21, 2010 7:30:06 PM

There is more difference in performance than price so pick a good drive like Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 gb or Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500 gb (which whitefang recommended)
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March 21, 2010 8:17:15 PM

The seagate barracuda uses 500GB platters where the others use much smaller platters. That's why its a lot better.
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March 21, 2010 8:19:40 PM

whitefang said:
The seagate barracuda uses 500GB platters where the others use much smaller platters. That's why its a lot better.

u think that since i have the money i should go ahead and get a phenom 955 with a 5850?
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March 21, 2010 8:22:08 PM

Emin said:
Obsidian86 put together a great build for you, if you need more money you can cut down on the GPU since you don't play on a high resolution. Or if you can, get a 1680x1050 or a 1900x1200 screen (might need a better GPU for better performance on the latter resolution, like 5850)

i like that monitor, cheap and it has an ok resolution. my computer area is small so i dont think i could fit a 23in or somthing similar
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March 21, 2010 8:22:31 PM

dominnater said:
u think that since i have the money i should go ahead and get a phenom 955 with a 5850?


Well you could do that, or this. The 790/890 boards have CF 8x8 which will extend your computers life a lot seeing as you can add another 5850 down the road and they support the hexacore (6 core processor). So if it were me I would get a slightly higher wattage PSU (+$10-20) and the 890GX board +$40 which would come to +$50-60 which would be better then upgrading from the 435 rana to the 955 phenom.

The 955 over the 435 won't help that much in gaming any way, and with the above you will be a lot more future proof.
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March 21, 2010 8:25:48 PM

BradyT88 said:
That actually brings up a good point... hey dominator, do you plan on OCing?

I haven't heard that the 770's OC better, although I haven't really looked into. Anyway, I am really happy with my 785G micro ATX board. I went from 2.8 GHz to 3.8GHz without much effort. Although I ran into some issues going higher and I would not recommend ASUS boards anymore, atleast the 5 phase boards.
The nice thing about the Gigabyte board you recommended is its 10 phase power setup. That will be nice when you start cranking up the vcore to the 1.5v range. The downside is that is only has 1 PCI-E slot, so no adding a second card.

I just picked the cheapest HDD on the 7200rpm 500GB list. They are all 7200 rpm so I really doubt you would see much, if any real world difference in performance.

yeah but i may get a 5850 and an amd phenom 955 seems good for the price and a lot of ppl on youtube have benchmarks of it at 1080 with very high so with my monitor it would be great
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March 21, 2010 8:26:52 PM

As far as future proof I wouldn't even bother. The soon to come 6 and 8 core processors are mostly just to make some quick money. If you want future proof, save your money and just get what we've recommended. Then in a few when the new cpu sockets, AM4 or whatever they decide to call it, are released jump into them.

Games and just surfing the web and such barely utilize a quad core, let alone 6, so I would try to skip this bandwagon for now.
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March 21, 2010 8:29:30 PM

whitefang said:
Well you could do that, or this. The 790/890 boards have CF 8x8 which will extend your computers life a lot seeing as you can add another 5850 down the road and they support the hexacore (6 core processor). So if it were me I would get a slightly higher wattage PSU (+$10-20) and the 890GX board +$40 which would come to +$50-60 which would be better then upgrading from the 435 rana to the 955 phenom.

The 955 over the 435 won't help that much in gaming any way, and with the above you will be a lot more future proof.

ok but will the processor i have selected work well with gta iv?
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March 21, 2010 8:33:57 PM

BradyT88 said:
As far as future proof I wouldn't even bother. The soon to come 6 and 8 core processors are mostly just to make some quick money. If you want future proof, save your money and just get what we've recommended. Then in a few when the new cpu sockets, AM4 or whatever they decide to call it, are released jump into them.

Games and just surfing the web and such barely utilize a quad core, let alone 6, so I would try to skip this bandwagon for now.

i plan to play gta iv alot and i herd it demands a good cpu, i dont plan on upgrading a cpu for a few year so would it be on the safe side to get a phenom II x4? or is the athlon good
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March 21, 2010 8:36:21 PM

Well if you have the money and really want to play it safe, you could get the 955 and an MSI 790FX-GD70. That should handle GTA IV with a 5xxx card and have excellent OC capabilities.
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March 21, 2010 8:43:59 PM

BradyT88 said:
Well if you have the money and really want to play it safe, you could get the 955 and an MSI 790FX-GD70. That should handle GTA IV with a 5xxx card and have excellent OC capabilities.

ok sounds good. im gona post some new specs
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March 21, 2010 8:48:58 PM

You may be right and it is cheaper. I haven't heard much about the OC capabilities of the 890GX's yet, but I know that that MSI is one hell of an OCer.
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March 21, 2010 9:14:21 PM

Which case are you keeping? It's not that Apevia is it?

Oh, and just a little fyi, you'll have to do some Overclocking to get that memoy to run at 1600MHz, as none of these mobos support it natively.
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March 21, 2010 9:23:37 PM

BradyT88 said:
Which case are you keeping? It's not that Apevia is it?

Oh, and just a little fyi, you'll have to do some Overclocking to get that memoy to run at 1600MHz, as none of these mobos support it natively.

ok then i will be using the apevia and a might change the ram knowing that, i can overclock but if the mobo dont support then its a waste of mney
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March 21, 2010 9:27:34 PM

Well the motherboard can use it still. It will just default down to 1333 and you will have to OC it up to 1600.
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March 21, 2010 9:33:15 PM

BradyT88 said:
Well the motherboard can use it still. It will just default down to 1333 and you will have to OC it up to 1600.

o ok i c what u mean. il keep that ram then
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