What the **** Blew?

So I was rendering out a video while on my bed resting. I hear my PC turn off and look over and see smoke. Opened it up and turned it on and something caught fire. :|

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  1. MOSFETs blew the ****'ing blew up. It looks like you used too much Thermal Paste from the first image; the Silver paste is Conductive and looks like it shorted the CPU's power.

    Duh, the MOBO is toast but you 'may have' also taken then CPU along for the ride. :( :cry:
  2. MutatedGamer said:
    So I was rendering out a video while on my bed resting. I hear my PC turn off and look over and see smoke. Opened it up and turned it on and something caught fire. :|

    Pics: http://i.imgur.com/UIa0z.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/EtTlq.jpg



    You blew a voltage regulator: the mobo is very dead, maybe some of your components, too :(

    The New Number Two
  3. The red arrows are pointing to what appears to be both Thermal Paste and remnants of the CPU frying {black soot}.

  4. jaquith said:
    The red arrows are pointing to what appears to be both Thermal Paste and remnants of the CPU frying {black soot}.

    http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/CPU_FIRE_TP.jpg



    Well, I didn't know you're not supposed to let thermal paste touch the brackets that secure the CPU... or w/e you call them. The black soot is a shadow :|. I REALLY hope my CPU isn't dead. If that's the case, I won't be able to get a new PC till Christmas. D:
  5. Do you have Homeowner's insurance - tell them it was a lighting strike...a bad electrical surge...the dog peed on the PC and poof!

    You ONLY want a very thin layer on top of the CPU ONLY - thin as in not gushing-out. if it ONLY got on the bracket then it didn't cause the problem. From the photo it looks to be spread all over the place.

    Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rPqCvCt0g

    Otherwise a R-E-A-L-L-Y bad PSU with no 'fault protection', Stand-off Short + BAD PSU, or liquid Short + BAD PSU could do that sever of damage. A good PSU would have kicked-off before allowing 'crispy' deep fried. I have no doubt about a dead short; it almost looks like pure A/C went through the system.

    Q - Are you in a 220v area? With the PSU set for 110v...?

    Q - Your PSU wouldn't happen to be Antec???
  6. jaquith said:
    Do you have Homeowner's insurance - tell them it was a lighting strike...a bad electrical surge...the dog peed on the PC and poof!

    You ONLY want a very thin layer on top of the CPU ONLY - thin as in not gushing-out. if it ONLY got on the bracket then it didn't cause the problem. From the photo it looks to be spread all over the place.

    Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rPqCvCt0g

    Otherwise a R-E-A-L-L-Y bad PSU with no 'fault protection', Stand-off Short + BAD PSU, or liquid Short + BAD PSU could do that sever of damage. A good PSU would have kicked-off before allowing 'crispy' deep fried. I have no doubt about a dead short; it almost looks like pure A/C went through the system.

    Q - Are you in a 220v area? With the PSU set for 110v...?

    Q - Your PSU wouldn't happen to be Antec???


    The thermal paste was not gushing out everywhere, I'm not that dumb :/. I used a very very tiny amount and spread it out evenly onto the cpu using the little plastic thing that came with it.

    I have a Corsair 650W psu that costed me a good around 100 bucks, I don't think it's bad. :(

    My PSU is set to the right setting, I was using this build for a couple of months without a single problem.

    The wiring in my house exlcluding one room with a big TV has cloth wiring... very old cloth wiring. This house was built sometime around 1800-1900, and my room's wiring wasn't updated since, and nobody in my family can afford to get it re-done.

    Is my CPU a goner? :[ I plan on getting a new mobo and case, but that only since I can only afford that. :(
  7. Well I am astonished that a Corsair allowed this, it is NOT a 1 or 2 cycle short; its supposed to under/over and fault protect. I would contact Corsair and show them what happened.

    Corsair -http://www.corsair.com/contact/default.aspx

    Clearly, you had a catastrophic failure, one of the worst I've see, and by the looks of it I can only imagine someone or somehow the equivalent of pure A/C going into the MOBO.

    I would be VERY surprised if your CPU survived; more like a miracle. I would be surprised if ANYTHING connected to the MOBO wasn't damaged.

    ----
    Over Current/Voltage/Power Protection, Under Voltage Protection, and Short Circuit Protection provide maximum safety to your critical system components.
    http://www.corsair.com/products/tx/default.aspx

    Warranty - http://www.corsair.com/warranty/default.aspx
  8. jaquith said:
    Well I am astonished that a Corsair allowed this, it is NOT a 1 or 2 cycle short; its supposed to under/over and fault protect. I would contact Corsair and show them what happened.

    Corsair -http://www.corsair.com/contact/default.aspx

    Clearly, you had a catastrophic failure, one of the worst I've see, and by the looks of it I can only imagine someone or somehow the equivalent of pure A/C going into the MOBO.

    I would be VERY surprised if your CPU survived; more like a miracle. I would be surprised if ANYTHING connected to the MOBO wasn't damaged.

    ----
    Over Current/Voltage/Power Protection, Under Voltage Protection, and Short Circuit Protection provide maximum safety to your critical system components.
    http://www.corsair.com/products/tx/default.aspx

    Warranty - http://www.corsair.com/warranty/default.aspx


    Are you kidding me? My CPU is dead? My ram? GPU? DVD drive? I don't have the money for any new computers.
  9. You had a catastrophic failure, I only can guarantee the MOBO is crispy, but I too noticed the soot under the CPU socket - I'd be shocked if the CPU is intact.

    You'll need to test each component. As I mentioned, start looking for the blame + warranty. I would start with Corsair and see what they say.
  10. jaquith said:
    You had a catastrophic failure, I only can guarantee the MOBO is crispy, but I too noticed the soot under the CPU socket - I'd be shocked if the CPU is intact.

    You'll need to test each component. As I mentioned, start looking for the blame + warranty. I would start with Corsair and see what they say.



    I really don't have any other pc to test my parts in. Not other pc has a LGA 1156 socket, my uncle has an old AMD from dell with a dead PSU, I could test my PSU in there. But the only intel is a old Pentium something that's rusting with age and has like 1GB ram.... idk. :(

    I can't call Corsair till tomorrow, closed a half hour ago. I'm not going email them either :/.
  11. I THINK I FOUND A PROBLEM HELPER.



    I have a Corsair Hydro cpu cooler. I think I learned my lesson with Corsair.
  12. I love dell. The XPS pc my uncle has has a blocked off PSU by a wall or something. It's like it has its own part of the case, and no way in. :|
  13. The MOBO BIOS would thermally shut the PC down if it overheated, now if the H50 leaked that's another story. You need to get a filter - yuck! ...or vacuum every so often.
  14. jaquith said:
    The MOBO BIOS would thermally shut the PC down if it overheated, now if the H50 leaked that's another story. You need to get a filter - yuck! ...or vacuum every so often.


    Hmmm.... I think it would just be better to get an air cooler. Can you reccomend me one at microcenter? Here's my current shopping list
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0345258
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0293547

    I was thinking I can take my PSU and CPU and mobo to Microcenter with me and they can test it (hopefully free...) and tell me what's dead.
  15. RAD vs FINS - Imagine cleaning all that gunk out of A-L-L the fins - Yeah buddy! I use the H50 I can clean them 5x faster and I added simple filters.

    Cases are more 'personal' choices the CM HAF cases are very good; the thins to look for are PSU in bottom, top fans (2x120/RAD), bottom ventilation, and I also like side and back of CPU fan(s).

    MOBO - IF you want/need 'real' CF then I would not recommend the P7H55/USB3; otherwise it's fine. Here's a good assortment of ASUS; each has Pros/Cons so look carefully {for reference I added P7H55/USB3} http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001315%20600007888&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=280|13-131-400^13-131-400-TS,13-131-620^13-131-620-TS,13-131-601^13-131-601-TS,13-131-482^13-131-482-Z01,13-131-662^13-131-662-TS
  16. jaquith said:
    RAD vs FINS - Imagine cleaning all that gunk out of A-L-L the fins - Yeah buddy! I use the H50 I can clean them 5x faster and I added simple filters.

    Cases are more 'personal' choices the CM HAF cases are very good; the thins to look for are PSU in bottom, top fans (2x120/RAD), bottom ventilation, and I also like side and back of CPU fan(s).

    MOBO - IF you want/need 'real' CF then I would not recommend the P7H55/USB3; otherwise it's fine. Here's a good assortment of ASUS; each has Pros/Cons so look carefully {for reference I added P7H55/USB3} http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001315%20600007888&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=280|13-131-400^13-131-400-TS,13-131-620^13-131-620-TS,13-131-601^13-131-601-TS,13-131-482^13-131-482-Z01,13-131-662^13-131-662-TS



    Dude, you lost me. Sorry, I''m new to this type of stuff :(
  17. Sorry, you posted a caked-up Corsair H50/H70 RAD {radiator}, and my comment was now imagine that in a regular Heat Sink with 'fins' -- an cleaning. That crud is going in either place -- there a lot of air going through either to cool off your system.

    I too lived in a 100+ year old house and 'I understand' the DUST; that's why I got into the habit of using filters on my case; I just have to keep an eye on them and clean frequently.

  18. Its a shame a nice MSI board like that, if a Corsair PSU and MSI Motherboard lead to a catastrophic failiure like this, i guess anybody can... :/
  19. Okay I just got back from Best Buy. The PSU is fine, sending out 12.3V. They said that motherboard is gone, so on my way home I shipped it out to MSI with my RMA papers. I can only hope now my CPU is alive, and hopefully find a good deal on newegg/microcenter tomorrow for black friday sales.

    HAF 932 vs Antech 1200?
  20. Both are good, the Antec has better cooling (I like the 2 120's @ rear) but I prefer CM Quality and it has better side cooling for the NB/GPUs, and it's a personal 'looks' choice. Antec is ALL black which 'I' prefer, but I too know it's poorer quality. BOTH WILL GET EXTREMELY DUSTY!

    Look at Corsair Graphite Series 600T {everything is filtered} http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139003

    'I use' Corsair 800D.

    Flip a coin.

    Also, for the rebuild - I am very anal with my builds and in your situation I would look for plastic washers for both the stand-offs (you'll need to glue them on) and screws. [screw] [washer] {MOBO} [washer] [stand-off] -- never had a short yet. Also, be VERY careful with excess thermal paste; you can alway put the paste on before installing. Watch the I/O shield and 'up' the cleaning routine.

    Good Luck!
  21. jaquith said:
    Both are good, the Antec has better cooling (I like the 2 120's @ rear) but I prefer CM Quality and it has better side cooling for the NB/GPUs, and it's a personal 'looks' choice. Antec is ALL black which 'I' prefer, but I too know it's poorer quality. BOTH WILL GET EXTREMELY DUSTY!

    Look at Corsair Graphite Series 600T {everything is filtered} http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139003

    'I use' Corsair 800D.

    Flip a coin.

    Also, for the rebuild - I am very anal with my builds and in your situation I would look for plastic washers for both the stand-offs (you'll need to glue them on) and screws. [screw] [washer] {MOBO} [washer] [stand-off] -- never had a short yet. Also, be VERY careful with excess thermal paste; you can alway put the paste on before installing. Watch the I/O shield and 'up' the cleaning routine.

    Good Luck!



    I'm not getting another mid-size. This pc is never going to move unless going onto my desk for maintance, so I see not reason not to get a full-size. I had an old piece of junk CM mid-size tower, and I hated it. It cost me like 40 bucks, the cheapest they had at microcenter, and it was off-the-shelf sort of thing. A few months ago I ordered a NZXT M59, and I feel the same thing, even after hours of cable management, I didn't have enough room. So, I decided to cough out the extra money and get a full size.

    I want something with behind-the-tray cable managment, plenty of airflow, alot of fans, and looks overall "1337". So I came down to the HAF 932 and the Antec 1200. :|

    I was also looking at the 800D, but it's a little too much out of my price range. Also, I wouldn't want to give any more money to corsair. :/
  22. Trust me I understand all too well -- I feel that same way about Antec toasted (2) $400 GPUs on (2) identical rigs within weeks of each other even with an UPS.

    Obviously, it's tough to see in a picture what's 'really' happened --- and so I'd love to hear what the Techs @ Microcenter think it is?

    Just 'measure' the place for a Full Size tower - they 'is' big boys! ;)
  23. jaquith said:
    Trust me I understand all too well -- I feel that same way about Antec toasted (2) $400 GPUs on (2) identical rigs within weeks of each other even with an UPS.

    Obviously, it's tough to see in a picture what's 'really' happened --- and so I'd love to hear what the Techs @ Microcenter think it is?

    Just 'measure' the place for a Full Size tower - they 'is' big boys! ;)


    I didn't get to go to microcenter, only Best Buy before I shipped the motherboard back to MSI. As I said, nothing wrong with this PSU, I could still use it. Also, what's an UPS?

    I'm probably going to get the HAF 932. Now, I just wait till my mom can get it. A few months -_-
  24. UPS = Uninterrupted Power Supply ; battery back-up {helps keep the power 'clean' and in case the power goes out keeps the PC running for ~20~30 minutes then shuts it down if I'm away.}

    Be G-O-O-D - Love Mom!!! :love:
  25. Hmm.... speaking of Newegg, I can get the HAF 932 and this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186174 for 230 inc shipping. Sounds the best way to go, is that an okay mobo? :/
  26. MutatedGamer said:
    Hmm.... speaking of Newegg, I can get the HAF 932 and this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186174 for 230 inc shipping. Sounds the best way to go, is that an okay mobo? :/


    Id actually challenge you to find a motherboard worse than that! :lol: Youd be better off getting a CM 690 II, spending $40 on fans, and getting a decent MSI/Asus Motherboard.
  27. ares1214 said:
    Id actually challenge you to find a motherboard worse than that! :lol: Youd be better off getting a CM 690 II, spending $40 on fans, and getting a decent MSI/Asus Motherboard.


    Oh... /me keeps looking.
  28. OOOOOOOOOOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Foxconn P55A-S

    Side-by-Side P55's - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=280|13-131-400^13-131-400-TS,13-131-620^13-131-620-TS,13-131-601^13-131-601-TS,13-131-482^13-131-482-Z01,13-131-662^13-131-662-TS
  29. jaquith said:
    OOOOOOOOOOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Foxconn P55A-S

    Side-by-Side P55's - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=280|13-131-400^13-131-400-TS,13-131-620^13-131-620-TS,13-131-601^13-131-601-TS,13-131-482^13-131-482-Z01,13-131-662^13-131-662-TS

    Those are all Asus... can someone just please find me a good mobo on microcenter preferably under like 150... meaning not over :|
  30. jaquith said:



    Okay thanks, now I get to play the waiting game. Bye~
  31. Okay I just got done building the PC, I went to micorcenter and got a HAF 932, an Asus mATX motherboard(guy said that this is fine, best bang for the buck), and I also got a Cooler Master Hyper 212+. I installed everything, and now windows is giving me *** on startup.
  32. Okay, what s*** is it giving you?
  33. Did you do a fresh install with the new board or just install everything as was and try to boot up? If it is the later, I would do a fresh install of Windows and go from their. If did a fresh install, I'll let jaquith continue on with his great advice :D
  34. tecmo34 said:
    Did you do a fresh install with the new board or just install everything as was and try to boot up? If it is the later, I would do a fresh install of Windows and go from their. If did a fresh install, I'll let jaquith continue on with his great advice :D



    Yeah, I finally re-installed 7. I installed it over my current OS, and moved any files I needed from windows.old to my documents, then deleted it. Overall product came out pretty good :D
  35. Oh and my BIOS was acting up, it was reading IDE hard disks and not finding them, and trying to boot off of my second hard drive. It just gave me a mean mess when trying to boot like "Reboot and select proper media device" or something like that. :|
  36. tecmo34 said:
    Did you do a fresh install with the new board or just install everything as was and try to boot up? If it is the later, I would do a fresh install of Windows and go from their. If did a fresh install, I'll let jaquith continue on with his great advice :D


    +1 -- Or you can try a REPAIR install from the Windows CD - (this replaces all of the system files\drivers like it would on a new install but keeps all of your programs and settings) - but will sometimes leave remnants of the old setup so going the new install is probably best (unless you do not have backups of needed files\programs to reinstall)
  37. Okay! Windows is all nice, and this 212+ is amazing. I'm at stock ATM, idle I get 25C with my i7 860. Prime95 I get 40-45C.

    Now the question is should I overclock? I don't want THIS motherboard to blow up :[
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