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$2-2.5k gaming/work PC need advice

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March 22, 2010 3:45:35 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: within 2-3 weeks

BUDGET RANGE: 2000-2500 max for everything! I really don't want to go over 2.3k.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, school/work, music/movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Need everything

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: I want an i7. anything else is up for debate.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, but only a little bit.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: At this time no. when I get more funds yes.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080,

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
I pretty much picked out everything. Wondering if you guys can give advice on parts.
I really like/want the case I chose, but its freakin expensive, I'm having a hard time telling my self not to buy it.

I do database stuff so I want 1 hard drive for storage, and hopefully 1 for OS/Games. should i get a 10000rpm for games/ OS? I really need help here.

And should I buy thermal grease or use the stuff that comes with the v8 cooler?

here are the parts i picked out so far.

Case - $280
LIAN LI PC-B70 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video card - $420
XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- $150
CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU/Mobo- $480 combo
Intel Core i7-930 2.8GHz LGA 1366 Quad-Core Desktop Processor Model BX80601930 - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CPU cooler - $75
COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Coole
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram - $110
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - $80
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this is good enough for storage? maybe a cheaper one?

dvd - $23
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

monitor - $200
Asus 23" 1080p
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have picked out windows 7 razer mouse/keyboard and bose headphones as well which is about 400 bucks total .
Grand total w/ shipping- about $2300

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March 22, 2010 4:09:08 AM

Make those changes (RAM a MUST) ... ALSO

I LIKE SAPHiRE for GPUs ... They have had a spotless reputation for well over a decade and they are known for using "jap-caps" and coils ... They are known for having the lowest RF noise in the industry and I highly reccommend.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


It is all "golden" except the RAM ... I think my picks are better, of course ... Tiger sells those mons like hotcakes ... great reviews ... the SAMsUnG DVDR is "better" by consensus (here) ...

=LUCK ! =
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March 22, 2010 4:18:03 AM

^ Well $300 for peripherals ?
hmm...
If I were you, I would invest more on the main PC than on the peripherals as you can always buy them later on...

Here is a config -
1. CASE - I do accept that that case is a very good one...Why not try this one for about $80 less ? Looks nearly the same but the internals are different -
LIAN LI PC-A70F
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But I would save money and get this case -
CM HAF 922 - A mid tower case, but that is as big as a full tower and can easily fit the 5870s with some space to spare...So you save nearly $100 if you are selecting the above case or about $200 changing from the original choice...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or the same classic look in a mid tower - Even this can fit the HD 5870s...
LIAN LI PC-7FN Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2. CPU + Mobo - Get the newer i7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

3. CPU Cooler - IMO for less, this would be better...
XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4. RAM -
i7 LGA 1366 Socket means go with Tri-Channel kit to take advantage of the tri-channel controller on the i7 9xx CPUs...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5. SSD - 2K budget and NO SSDs ? You wont need the 10k drives...these are far better...nearly instant access...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6. PSU - You can also save money going with Non-mod PSUs as these case have very good cable management - especially the HAF, so you can easily hide the unused cables...
Corsair 750TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 22, 2010 4:31:46 AM



I Don't even need to look at Kay's build to know it rocks ... they ALWAYS DO !!!

= Al =
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March 22, 2010 4:46:56 AM

^ Hahaha...I dont always come up with a good build...sometimes even I do make wrong choices...
And see the RAM...you had suggested those even before I did...hmm...
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March 22, 2010 5:00:16 AM

Well, philosophically ... "we" don't always synch ... But I sure do know talent when I see it and I also grok your logic, even when I do not ascribe.

... I would give you $20 to go for milk and eggs ... no prob.

(even if you are a guy !! )
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March 22, 2010 5:09:31 AM

i live in australia but ill post one up anyways using newegg prices.
btw if your planning on over-clocking cpu and installing a second 5870 in the future you should consider buying a psu with more watts id say 850w. It's not a huge investment but it could help prevent any future head fucks
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March 22, 2010 5:19:45 AM


650W is plenty ... 750W will push any 2X SLI config (save 5970s)

= Al =
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March 22, 2010 5:32:44 AM

Go with an (80 PLUS) certified, single rail design ... SLI ready.

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March 22, 2010 5:41:57 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Here would be my candidates ... I think Rosewills are just fine but I can't get two techs to agree with me, on the same thread, about Rosewill ... They source stuff and rebrand it ... they do have standards ... Kind of like your favorite "store-brand" cream corn or peanut-butter ... I think Rosewill is above average, because their reputation is all they really have ... word of mouth .. because they do not even advertise ... just build their brand on quality picks from generic sources ... you just can't know who really built it, that's all ... you have to trust Roswill.

But, if you have $$ ... Definately the Corsair ... Or ... whatever Kay says, because if Kay "trumps" Corsair ... then there is a good (substantive) reason for that.

= Al =
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March 22, 2010 6:02:27 AM

^ There are good reasons why we suggest Tier I brands like Corsair(OEM is Seasonic and CWT), Antec(EA, TP and ECO Series), CM Real Power/ Silent PRO/ GX Series, Silverstone, Seasonic, PCP&S, Enermax or atleast the OCZs...
The certification alone is not important but you should also consider the operating range, the voltage reading difference from the stand rated voltages, if they are able to maintain their efficiency even at higher temps, ...

The above manufacturers are very good at this and you can be sure that those wont let you down...
But other manufacturers, to keep the prices down, will skimp on the quality and construction of the parts inside, that will translate to shorter life span and unreliable voltage outputs...
A very good place to check out the PSU reviews
http://www.jonnyguru.com/ - These guys just tear apart the PSU, check it from top to bottom and give a very good and honest review of the PSUs...
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March 22, 2010 7:15:01 AM



saving link ... you don't like Rosewill? (or just can't say where they come from)

... I was "assuming" that an 80+ "generally" means a better build, just for the required consistency, if no other reason.

...not trying to debate ... just wanting the best dope (while saving $$) ...

seems like very few good ones under ~$69
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March 22, 2010 7:50:23 AM

Here is a link which has nearly all the OEMs list...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDArticles&op...

And I dint say I hate Rosewill PSUs, but I prefer the ones that I listed...
Also not all the PSUs from a company are same...they skimp on quality to lower the price to cater to wide range of market...That is why I hadn't listed the Extreme Series from Cooler Master and the BP series from Antec as they are low quality but cheaper...
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March 22, 2010 9:09:00 AM


Mind boggling ... No way I'm ever gonna remember all THAT ! Whew!

Now, that is really getting into the nut of it.

Corsair ... Get yer Cor-SAIRs, right here !

= Al =
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March 22, 2010 6:40:28 PM

[:bilbat:5] WHAT YOU CHOSE IS PERFECT !! [:bilbat:5]

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March 22, 2010 6:43:12 PM

actually ... yours is a "DUAL" ... BETTER THAN WHAT I JUST POSTED ...


GO WITH WHAT YOU HAVE !!
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March 23, 2010 3:21:23 AM

@Rocketj32 why not get the Desktop bundle that comes with mounting bracket that I had linked? Is cheaper and come with the necessary things you need to put it in your case...
Kingston SSDNow V Series SNV425-S2BD/64GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And which case did you choose ?
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March 23, 2010 5:19:58 AM

it was between the CM922 and the Lian li 7FN. I picked the Lian li. its about 150 bucks less than the pc-b80 and seems to be almost the same thing minus a copule inches and less bays, but i dont need all of them anyways.

For the SSD. Should I just put my OS on it maybe a game or 2? I dont really know much about SSD



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March 23, 2010 5:33:34 AM

Hmm.. good choice of the case...

As for the SSD, you can put 1 or 2 games in those...
But make sure you have about ~20% free space for those to work efficiently...
You would still have about ~45GB, which I think would suffice for OS, some frequently used apps and 1 or 2 games...
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March 23, 2010 5:45:40 AM

SSD ...

I have a 70GB RAPTOR (almost the same size as a Kingston 64GB SSD)

The 70GB Raptor is my boot/apps drive ...
A 300GB Seagate is my "Content and Archives" drive ...

On my 70GB Boot/Apps Drive ...
... I have WinXP-Pro/SP3 and IE8 and Chrome and Comm Utils ... Avid XP-Pro (full suite) .. Media Studio Pro (full install) .. Vegas Platinum .. Several complete virtual sound studio suites ... Hoyle Card Games .. BackGammon .. ACID .. Sonic Foundry ... All sorts of video scoring libraries ... Just bunches of free internet utils like AudioGrabber and Audacity, etc. ad nauseum.

The grand total for all that crap (space-wise) is ....~24GB leaving ~46GB free.

Now, my Seagate/CONTENT 300GB drive is half full and it has all my .mp3 files and all my saved web-pages (several hundreds) and many gigabytes of hi-rez photos and it is where I ingest all HDV and DV-25 video to and .. and .. and ..

So just load any amount of media apps and, for very large, content-rich games (cinematic level transitions, etc.), then just choose the "CUSTOM INSTALL" option, when installing and install it to the content drive, rather than the SSD.

Nothing to it ... Just don't snooze thru the express install of some game that comes on 4+ BluRay Disks ... knowhaddeye-mean ??

= Al =
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March 23, 2010 5:47:38 AM


Definately leave 20% free (on SSDs) for "Trim Management" ... Sort of like "defrag shuffle-space" . Gotta have that space free for continued performance.

= Al =
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