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March 7, 2010 10:18:37 PM

Well im really quite new to this whole graphics card upgrading thing and its really quite confusing so thought i would ask some help :) 

I've wanted to upgrade my gfx for quite some time now but never had the know how or the spare money to do it.

Even now i only have £60 or if i wait 2 weeks £120.

I dont want anything fancy i just want to be able to run battlefield bad company 2. Obviously i want some graphical quality and a decent average fps.
But i would settle for all low graphics for ATLEAST 100 constant :) .

Specs -

AMD Phenom 9550 Processor (Quad Core)
2200 MHz Processor speed
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium
4GB Memory
500 GB Hard Disk
ATI RADEON X1200

Hope thats enough!

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a c 273 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 10:38:14 PM

For £120 you'd be looking at a GTS250 or HD5770, take your pick.
a c 130 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 10:39:57 PM

First off, you will not notice any FPS above 60mhz.

Second, what's your Power-Supply and Monitor size?

Third, wait two weeks and get an HD5770.
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March 7, 2010 10:41:07 PM

what fps and graphics the HD 5770 get me on bc2?
March 7, 2010 10:42:18 PM

I forgot wat power supply i have how do i check? and monitor size 22''
a c 130 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 10:48:33 PM

If your native resolution is 1680x1050 you're fine.

To check your PSU, open your case and read the sticker on the power supply.
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 10:49:27 PM

shadow187 said:
First off, you will not notice any FPS above 60mhz.

Second, what's your Power-Supply and Monitor size?

Third, wait two weeks and get an HD5770.

OK I'll bite, are you thinking that the release of the Fermi cards will affect the price of anything below the £400/$600 range? If so I'll wager that it won't what do you want to bet?
March 7, 2010 10:49:59 PM

RES is normally 1024*768

Is that bad?

I'm quite a noob to this stuff lol
a c 130 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 10:53:11 PM

Beck, you should be running 1680x1050, unless your monitor is square, in which case you should be running 1280x1024.

@Mousemonkey, I don't understand your question. He said he can, "Wait two weeks to get E120", which is exactly what you posted.

March 7, 2010 10:55:33 PM

Yeah monitor is square so im running at 1280*1024 what dif that make?
a c 130 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 10:57:40 PM

Just gives you more space on your monitor. More pixels.
March 7, 2010 11:01:15 PM

It doesn't mean i should run my games at that Res though does it?
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:04:09 PM

shadow187 said:
Beck, you should be running 1680x1050, unless your monitor is square, in which case you should be running 1280x1024.

@Mousemonkey, I don't understand your question. He said he can, "Wait two weeks to get E120", which is exactly what you posted.

Oh, I'm sorry. I was inferring that in two weeks with his 120 quid he could get either of those two cards, I thought you were referring to the release of Fermi which should also be in about two weeks so a bit of alcohol induced miscommunication on my part there mate.
March 7, 2010 11:04:52 PM

Ok thats cool but what PSU will i need to run the 5770?
a c 130 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:08:47 PM

Mousemonkey said:
http://forums.hexus.net/images/smilies/oops.gifOh, I'm sorry. I was inferring that in two weeks with his 120 quid he could get either of those two cards, I thought you were referring to the release of Fermi which should also be in about two weeks so a bit of alcohol induced miscommunication on my part there mate.


Lolololol MM gives bad advice lolololol.

:pt1cable:  :pt1cable:  :pt1cable: 

Beckzman said:
Ok thats cool but what PSU will i need to run the 5770?


Something about a Corsair 450Watt with 1x 6-pin PCI-E. Should cost roughly E35.
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:18:34 PM

Ooh that's a bit harsh :lol:  ,£60 is not going to get much. A 9600GT or 4670 perhaps but that's all.
March 7, 2010 11:20:07 PM

Would the 4670 get me more than 60fps as said the human eye cannot see above 60. and would i still need to upgrade my psu.
Right had a look inside and its a ISO-400PP
I wasnt sure what you wanted me to get so Ive just copied everything on the label

INPUT:230V,4A,47-63Hz
OUTPUT:+3.3V 20.0A (ORG), +5v 30.0A (RED),+12V 15.0A (YEL)
+5Vsb 2.0A (PURP), -5V 0.5A (WHITE),-12V 0.5A (BLUE)
FUSE RATING:5A,250V~ (+3.3V & +5V =185W MAX)
MAXOUTPUT POWER:300W,(+12v,+5V&+3.3V TOTAL)
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:20:44 PM

Did I say something wrong in my above post? If so plz correct me.
MM is that quote Latin or Italian?
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:22:52 PM

YIKES only 15 As on the 12 volt rail, the 4670 isn't even going to run!
What's your budget for a new PSU?
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:25:27 PM

mister g said:
Did I say something wrong in my above post? If so plz correct me.
MM is that quote Latin or Italian?

What? wrong? who? Oh Latin mate. :ange: 
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:27:50 PM

@ OP, You are going to want to change that PSU or else risk a meltdown/blowup.
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:30:48 PM

Mousemonkey said:
What? wrong? who? Oh Latin mate. :ange: 


I look at PCWorld daily and saw an article of damage to some factories in Taiwan after the earthquake. It's further up the discussion.
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:36:23 PM

Yeah TSMC say that they lost 1.5 days worth of production because of the quake but what that's going to mean to us and Nvidia I have no idea.
a c 130 U Graphics card
March 7, 2010 11:59:17 PM

A 400W PSU? He should be fine, as my OC'd E1400 and OC'd HD4650 run on an OEM 200W PSU, while my Q8200 and my HD4650 (only GPU OC'd) run on a 220W.

Not, of course, for the HD5770 though.

@OP: Consider upgrading PSU and GPU to 450W and HD5770. Should cost you E140.
March 8, 2010 12:09:16 AM

mister g said:
YIKES only 15 As on the 12 volt rail, the 4670 isn't even going to run!
What's your budget for a new PSU?


well my budget for a psu is the same as my gpu so if i could get both for 120 that would make life so much easier.
ANyone know any good websites i could do this?
March 8, 2010 12:10:15 AM

shadow187 said:
A 400W PSU? He should be fine, as my OC'd E1400 and OC'd HD4650 run on an OEM 200W PSU, while my Q8200 and my HD4650 (only GPU OC'd) run on a 220W.

Not, of course, for the HD5770 though.

@OP: Consider upgrading PSU and GPU to 450W and HD5770. Should cost you E140.



Know any good sites it would probably cost that much on?

Thanks everyone for the help btw
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 12:10:28 AM

shadow187 said:
A 400W PSU? He should be fine, as my OC'd E1400 and OC'd HD4650 run on an OEM 200W PSU, while my Q8200 and my HD4650 (only GPU OC'd) run on a 220W.

Not, of course, for the HD5770 though.

@OP: Consider upgrading PSU and GPU to 450W and HD5770. Should cost you E140.

It's Pounds sterling mate not those foreign Euro thingy's :lol: , shift + 3.
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 12:13:37 AM

Beckzman said:
well my budget for a psu is the same as my gpu so if i could get both for 120 that would make life so much easier.
ANyone know any good websites i could do this?

Try Scan.co.uk, I've used them quite a bit myself and always found their service to be exemplary and prices quite competitive.
March 8, 2010 12:16:59 AM

Mousemonkey said:
Try Scan.co.uk, I've used them quite a bit myself and always found their service to be exemplary and prices quite competitive.

Cheers amte looking on there now quite good prices actually but my psu.

i need 1X 6-pin pci-express connector if im getting the HD5770 yes?
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 12:24:41 AM

Yes mate, at least one 6 pin PCIe connector.
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 12:28:13 AM

Beckzman said:
I think ive found a PSU i can use.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/500W-Storm-LPJ19-25-120m...

Now i just need to find out the dimensions of my current PSU but cant find them anywhere and dont have any measuring tools can anyone help?

This one is a bit more but the quality of the PSU is something you do not want to skimp on.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/400W-Corsair-CMPSU-400CXUK-Power-Series-PSU-ATX-PS-2-UK-Version-3-year-warranty and if you have a standard ATX case it will fit.
a c 273 U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 12:30:38 AM

Beckzman said:
Hold on people I do need help now.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-Powercolor-HD5770-PC...

Check the width it says ''Dual slot'' I think my pc only has 1 pci slot.

Does this mean it needs two?

No, that means it will take the space of two cards and need to have two of the slots at the rear of the case free but it is only one PCB.
March 8, 2010 12:32:53 AM

Mousemonkey said:
No, that means it will take the space of two cards and need to have two of the slots at the rear of the case free but it is only one PCB.



Ahh im starting to understand now cheers.

Its all good i have 4 Slots at the rear free.

I think ive finally found a card and psu Im actually going to buy :) 

Will it run CoD4 and MW2 all good aswell yeah?
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 12:33:12 AM

MM has you covered BeckzMan, I'm on the other side of the pond :D 
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 12:34:30 AM

The 4670 is going to give you low-medium quality, but the 5770 should be able to stick at medium
March 8, 2010 12:39:59 AM

mister g said:
The 4670 is going to give you low-medium quality, but the 5770 should be able to stick at medium



Yeah thats sweet i reckonim gonna go with the 5770 :) 

Aslong as it will run any game WIth Playable quality thats out now (idc about the future ill tackle that when i come to it :p )
im happy :D 

So will it run any game lol?
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 12:46:37 AM

Yeah, wish I bought it years back, I regret my 9400GT. :-(.
March 8, 2010 12:50:28 AM

Ok guys thanks for the help I've Made my choice the HD 5770 and the 400W Corsair CMPSU-400CXUK Power Series PSU haha thanks for the help ill be sticking around here for sure :) 
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 1:04:11 AM

Add in 3-5W for each GB of RAM, about 10W for HD and optical drive, about 20W for mobo and I would say cutting it close or just not efficient for PSU.
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 1:09:27 AM

That 207w number allready takes into account those items.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-5770,review-317...
Check out the test setup.

Edit: The graph in my first post about power consumption Is a graph of the entire system while running FurMark, not just the graphics card.
The 5770 only draws around 108w under full load.
"ATI rates the Radeon HD 5770 for 18W of power consumption at idle and 108W maximum board power at load."
So that means the extra 99w is for the HD, RAM, and CPU(essentially at idle) and Mobo chipsets.
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2010 1:21:00 AM

Woops, this has been happening to me a lot lately. I even read that review once or twice!
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