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March 23, 2010 12:04:34 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within a Month


BUDGET RANGE: (1000-$1100) Before Rebates


SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Surfing Web, CAD, Photoshop


PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, case


PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com


PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel CPU, AMD Graphics


OVERCLOCKING:Maybe


CROSSFIRE:Yes


MONITOR RESOLUTION: Dual 1920x1080 Monitors


ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This will be hooked up to 2 HDTV's as the monitors.

Sorry to clutter up the forum but when I tried to bring back my previous post it got no responses and I need guidance as I could possibly order and build this thing at any time.

I got my Tax return in and I'm finally looking to build. Gaming will be my primary focus, and I may even tackle overclocking with this one. Here are the builds I've come up with. But I'm wondering if I can get a better system for my money.


149.99 - ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

339.98 -(x2) XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail -$10.00 Instant

109.99 - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail -$30.00 Instant

$199.99 - Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail

$159.99 - G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail

$55.99 - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$26.99 - LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

$34.99 - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long ... - Retail

$7.98 - ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

$1,085.89 - Total

I also did some messing around with the New Egg Combo deals and put together this.
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318.98 - *XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814150447
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy

*OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820227365
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$249.98 - *XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814150447
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy

* OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817341018
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$349.98 - * Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115215
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

* ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131405
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$55.99 - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$26.99 - LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

$39.98 - ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler - Retail

$7.98 - ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

$1,049.88 - Total.

The Combo deals don't really save a ton, but I'm not sure if I'm getting more for my money or not with them.


I"m also wondering If I should swap out the Processor, Mobo combo for this one.

$303.98 - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ965FBGMBOX - Retail

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

AMD Gift - Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 Coupon - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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March 23, 2010 12:17:17 PM

Those won't do period. You've got triple channel RAM for an i5-750 which uses dual channel.

I can also tell you that Crossfiring 5770s will not be good enough for dual 1900x monitors. One 5770 struggles in gaming at 1900x, and CF doesn't scale up 100%. You really need to be getting at least the 5870 for dual monitor gaming.

This is the best gaming build for $1,100:

CPU/Mobo: X4 955 and Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $265 after rebate. AMD CPU, which is slightly behind the i5. However, it's the same chip as the 965 once you overclock. The board is very future proof with USB 3/SATA III support. I believe you may be able to get that silly coupon with it too...
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $115. Very fast, very cheap sticks.
GPU: HD 5870 $420. There are cheaper ones, but they were sold out.
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 500 GB $55. Faster thatn the 500 GB WD HDDs on the market.
PSU: Corsair 750W 80+ $90 after rebate
Case: HAF 922 $90 after rebate
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $24
HSF (if OC): Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus $35. Easily one of the best HSF out there. It's also one of the cheapest.

Total: $1,094
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March 23, 2010 1:31:31 PM

So I put together a non working system; that's embarrassing. I haven't been seriously into building a PC for a while.

I figured most games only support 1 monitor and the second would be disabled during games. If I only intend to use one monitor for gaming would that change your GPU suggestion?

I wasn't planning on buying a case, but it seems the one I had in storage is denting So I'll have to include a new one, so thanks for including one in the suggestion.

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March 23, 2010 1:41:08 PM

It's not non-working. It would just be very slow. Triple channel RAM will work on a dual channel board, it will just operate as single channel, which means it would be really slow. So you would pay extra for the third stick, which would only cause the system to slow down.

Frankly, even if you only use one monitor for gaming, I would still want the 5870. The 5870 is able to play every game at max details at 1900x. The 5850 (which I would get over 2x 5770s) won't be able to play everything. The main exception is the ability to play Crysis, which may not be that important, but is a measure of how well the GPU will fair in the future.

To be honest, I didn't even notice you didn't have a case...
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March 23, 2010 2:28:37 PM

I haven't really been able to convince myself to go from 5850 to 5870. Is the performance really worth the extra $100? In addition I figure the 5870 will drop in price pretty significantly once Nvidia puts out something to compete with the 5000 series. The 5850 would likely drop as well, but probably not as dramatically. At a later time I could add a second 5850.

Also, while Gaming is the top priority for the PC, my PC won't necessarily be my primary gaming machine. I've got all the current gen consoles so I'll be spending the most time on whatever device has the hot game I want to play at the moment.

I would think it'd be better to drop to a 5850 and use the savings to go with an i5 CPU. From what I've seen it performs somewhat better in gaming, better overall in everthing else, and is more overclockable(?).

What if I dropped down to this GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and went with this CPU Mobo Combo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Also I was thinking of going with the Antec 300 case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 23, 2010 2:33:48 PM

That would work as well. That's a good combo.

If you were to get the 5850 and don't mind using adapters if you Crossfire, I would grab this case/PSU combo for $125. 650W is enough for dual 5850s, but most 650W PSU only have 2 PCIe connectors, and you'll need 4.
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March 23, 2010 3:10:44 PM
March 23, 2010 3:20:23 PM

Ragnorok64 said:
I figured most games only support 1 monitor and the second would be disabled during games. If I only intend to use one monitor for gaming would that change your GPU suggestion?

Actually most new games that are coming out technically support dual monitor gaming by supporting non-standard aspect ratios (standard is 4:3 and 16:9). Basically what you would do is you would into catalyst control center and then go into the desktops and displays tab, next you would have to group both of your monitors together. You would have to then start your game go into the graphics or video section of options and then enable your resolution (for 2x 1920x1080 it would be 3840x1080). Although if you are playing FPS games and there is a scope on your gun and when you activate the scope it will be stretched between the bezels of your monitors so your shots might not be all that accurate. If you are playing FPS games you have two options (really three if you wanted to go with the option stated above), just play your games on one monitor and then turn off your second monitor (which is what I do) or get three monitors and then you will be able to have your scope for FPS games on the center of the middle screen.

If you are going to do three monitor gaming I would go with the ATI 5870.
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March 23, 2010 7:19:19 PM

I don't think I'll be doing and 3 screen gaming anytime soon. I don't want bezel in the middle of my picture. Unless someone develops a game that has all the menus and inventory on the 2nd screen and keeps the main screen hud free.
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March 23, 2010 7:33:14 PM

Ragnorok64 said:
I don't think I'll be doing and 3 screen gaming anytime soon. I don't want bezel in the middle of my picture. Unless someone develops a game that has all the menus and inventory on the 2nd screen and keeps the main screen hud free.

Ok then, I would get the 5850 or 5770. It's up to you.
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March 23, 2010 7:37:51 PM

I thought of soemthing else you may want to consider. If you don't mind gaming at lowered detail, and do a LOT of CAD and Photoshop (way more than gaming), you may want to consider this build:

CPU/Mobo: i7-930 and Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R $480
RAM: G.Skill Pi Series 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $180
GPU: HD 5770 $150 after rebate
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 500 GB $55
Case/PSU: Antec 300 Illusion and Earthwatts 650W $125
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $24
HSF (if OC): Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus $35

Total: $1,049. You'll have to lower the detail while you game, but this would be a lot faster in CAD and Photoshop, which are more CPU driven.
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March 23, 2010 8:08:25 PM

Thanks for thinking of that. As it stands now I'm won't be doing anywhere near as much CAD or Photoshop as I thought I'd be doing, and probably won't be for the foreseeable future.

I'm thinking of going with the build 5 posts up. What are your final thoughts?
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March 23, 2010 8:11:29 PM

Any of the builds posted would be good. The X4 955/5870 for more gaming performance, the i7/5770 for more processing power or the i5/5850 for a mix. I would say the i5 build is the most balanced of the three.
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