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March 25, 2010 3:58:11 PM

Hey guys, building a new pc, need advice and critique. At the moment I'm looking at the following:

chip: i5-750
mobo: Asus P7p55d-e pro
ram: 4gb ddr3 ram (what do you suggest)
gpu: Zotac Gtx 275 AMP! / gtx 260 OC
psu: Gigabyte 720w Odin
hdd: Seagate 1tb hard drive
case: Coolermaster Mystique 632s

Also, which Windows 7 Edition should one take and 32/64 bit?

I use my pc for pretty much everything, games, spreadsheets, word processing, whatever.
Thanks guys!

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March 25, 2010 4:06:29 PM

Windows 7 - 64 bit every time.... 32 bit OS's are limited by the amount of RAM they can use (3.2GB) - so its a no brainer really.

HDD - have you looked at the Samsung Spin Point F3 ? they are currently one of the fastest SATA drives out there.

RAM... Corsair / Gskill / Geil make sure you stick to a good brand name - GENERIC might as well read "RUBBISH" in most cases
March 25, 2010 6:55:12 PM

Do NOT, I repeat NOT get the 275 or 260. This is March 2010, not March 2009. ATI is the only viable path at the moment, their 5770 or even better, the 5850, outperforms Nvidia completely.

If I recall correctly, Gigabyte PSU's are average at best. Corsair, OCZ, Enermax or Antec are the only brands I would trust to be honest.

As for RAM: any good brand with a 1333/1600MHz clock speed (the brands mentioned above, and don't forget to add Kingston and Mushkin to the list of good brands).

Agreed with the Samsung F3 comment.
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March 25, 2010 7:21:43 PM

Silmarunya said:
Do NOT, I repeat NOT get the 275 or 260. This is March 2010, not March 2009. ATI is the only viable path at the moment, their 5770 or even better, the 5850, outperforms Nvidia completely.


+1
March 25, 2010 7:26:17 PM

Agree with all of the above, except the Samsung. The Seagate 7200.12 1 TB are actually slightly better for gaming than the F3. Here's links to everything discussed:

HDD: Seagate 7200.12 1 TB $90
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $115
GPU: HD 5850 $315
PSU/Case: Corsair 750W 80+ for $90 after rebate and HAF 922 for $90 after rebate (the Mystique has been discontinued, and isn't actually that good)
OR
Antec 300 Illusion and Earthwatts 650W $125
March 25, 2010 7:38:24 PM

im gonna take a chance and say your south african

March 25, 2010 7:42:13 PM

Which is relevant because?
March 25, 2010 8:27:57 PM

Silmarunya said:
Which is relevant because?

newegg doesn reach this far
March 25, 2010 9:04:56 PM

Hi guys, so far thanks for the input. Yes I'm from SA. The stuff not so easy to come by and also more expensive here. But, I can get everything you mentioned. I grew up and ati's almost ALWAYS gave problems. I know these new ones are good.....I don't even know anyone that uses one of them. - haha, but can you guys honestly say that the'll run without a problem, hassle free?? everything's compatible with everything?? btw, I actually was considering the sapphire 5850.

I can get the ripjaws or the ocz platinum 1600. Both of them go for around $175.

The Corsair Tx 750w is about $165.

The Haf 922 is also about $165. - i love it, but the mystique goes for about $90 and that's why I was considering it.

Ok and then.....You all agree on the motherboard?? It's damn expensive over here, but that was the one I came upon when I looked for a good motherboard for the i5-750. Any other p7-55d-e boards you would recommend?

thanks guys, you're really helpful!!
March 25, 2010 9:18:20 PM

You're building your own computer. How much of a hassle it is will be up to you. If you want something that is hassle free, buy a computer that's already built. Anyway, the 5800 cards are the best you can get right now. If you want to stick with nVidia then you should wait a couple of weeks for Fermi cards to become available.
March 25, 2010 9:24:50 PM

In US, the nVidia 260 / 275 are not good buys as their prices have skyrocketed. Most sites have the 260 outperforming the 5770 by 10%. When they were both $155 (US), the 260 was an easy choice....at $215 where it is now, it's simply not worth $50 more.

Until tomorrow when the 470/480 drops....the 250 GTS is the most expensive nVidia card I would buy at the moment.

Hard Drives - Check out the performance charts and pick whatever 500 GB per platter drive performs best under your usage patterns. The 2 TB WD Black and XT from Seagate are good choice but at smaller capacities, you are limited to the Seagate 7200.12 or the Spinpoint F3. The 7200.12 excels in gaming, multimedia and pictures whereas the F3 wins at music and movie maker. See the comparisons here (copy past link in manually, link won't work in forum):

(http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...[2371]=on&prod[2770]=on)

PSU - I'd stick to Antec / Corsair / Seasonic

Cases - Antec 300/600/900/902 are good mid tower choices over a wide range of budgets....with the 902 being the best choice in the group. HAF 922 is a great mid tower case.

MoBo is a good choice ....deluxe version is has more features but comes at a price premium

RAM - See the THG $1500 / $3000 builds or just pick the lowest cost DDR3-1600 and lowest CAS # ya can afford.
March 26, 2010 4:34:25 AM

I can find the Club3d 5850 for a decent price yes. Is it any good?? I always understood the ATI cards ran better with AMD...So you guys are sure it'll run 100% in this rig and i'll be happy with it - please inform me on this as I'm a bit confused on which card I should go for.

JackNaylorPE - Will I benefit from any of the other features from the deluxe version??

Also, crossfire - If I look into crossfire in a year or 2, there wouldn't be any problem and this rig should do fine??
March 26, 2010 11:13:43 AM

The AMD/ATI thing is really a myth. The CPU choice and GPU choice are independent of each other.
March 26, 2010 2:38:41 PM

it will very easily run 2 x 5850 even 2 x 5870 is you wish
club3d is not bad i have one club 3d and one msi version they are good cards fro the price

to put it into perspective a 5850 out performs a gtx 285
March 27, 2010 12:19:45 PM

ok so....at the moment the new rig looks like this:

chip: i5-750
mobo: Asus P7p55d-e pro
ram: G.skill Ripjaws 2x2gb ddr3 ram 1600mhz
gpu: radeon 5850 - still deciding on which brand to buy
psu: corsair tx 750w
hdd: Seagate 1tb hard drive
case: coolermaster haf 922

Any other critique?? Please guys, I don't want to make a mistake. I usually keep a pc for at least 3-4 years haha.

Anybody else have experience with Club 3d??

Thanks for all the input!!!
March 27, 2010 12:31:42 PM

looks prety good, just buy cheapest with best rating when it comes to the 5850
March 30, 2010 6:09:49 AM

Ok one last minute change, haha. My dad is overseas and just bought me a gigabyte 5870. It'll still be compatible with the rest of the system, right?? And the gigabyte one is allright??
March 30, 2010 12:12:12 PM

It will work with everything else. And brand doesn't really matter with the newer GPUs.
March 30, 2010 12:37:19 PM

Ok looks like I'm set....Just hope I didn't make a mistake by not waiting for the 470 - but the 5870 sound like a better GPU. Thanks everyone!
March 30, 2010 1:03:24 PM

The 470 is out over here. You're not making a mistake. Check out the review on the front page.
March 30, 2010 6:50:05 PM

MadAdmiral said:
THe 470 is out over here. You're not making a mistake. Check out the review on the front page.

+1. I have been posting away how bad the 470 and 480 reviews are... So rejoice!

By the way, you got a cool Dad there... :) 
April 1, 2010 8:58:20 PM

MadAdmiral, just to make sure....If I go for the asus p7p55d-e pro, will it be more beneficial for me than the p7p55d-e??
April 1, 2010 9:12:30 PM

Yes. The non-Pro version has the second PCIe 2.0 slot operating at only 4x, making it essentially useless. The P7P55D doesn't have USB 3/SATA III. The one you want is the P7P55D-E Pro so you get both Crossfire and USB 3/SATA III.
April 1, 2010 9:43:18 PM

Ok, but if I don't plan on doing crossfire? anything else that will lose out on? And if I'm considering crossfire later on, it's still gonna be 8x,8x instead of the 16x single, right?
April 1, 2010 10:07:13 PM

The 8x/8x vs. 16x/16x doesn't matter at all. It's basically a 4% performance difference.

If you don't plan on Crossfiring, get the Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3. It only has 1 PCIe 2.0 slot, still has USB 3/SATA III support, and is cheaper.
April 2, 2010 7:47:14 AM

hmm ok thanks, but you're still opting for the p7p55d-e pro? Alrighty then!! haha thanks alot!!
April 6, 2010 6:54:23 PM

Jeez I wish that computer hardware were cheaper here in SA!! Admiral I read everywhere that the guys are opting for the i7 930. Problem is, the i7 930 with asus p6x58d will cost me over $900!!! My i-5 build above will cost me approx. $1620.

I will keep this pc for at least 3 years. Will I be happy with it, and also, is really worth all that extra money to get the i-7??
April 6, 2010 7:02:00 PM

the i7 wont be an improvement over an i5 in gaming but will be better productivity applications
April 6, 2010 7:03:56 PM

The i7 is only really useful in heavy encoding and processing builds. The extra computing power makes those tasks go a lot faster. For other uses, there isn't much difference between the i5 and the i7. So your answer is no, it's not worth it.

Something I would consider is that since this build is only meant to last a few years, an AMD based build (like the X4 955 or X4 630 and Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3) would be just fine. AMD CPUs are a little weaker than Intel's, but are a lot cheaper. If you're planning on replacing the build in a relatively short time frame, why spend a lot of money on a top of the line CPU?

Also, you could save money by dropping the USB 3/SATA III features, as these aren't likely to be in major use in the next couple of years. So a board like the MSI P55-GD55 for the i5 or Asus M4A77TD for the X4 955 would be fine.
April 7, 2010 7:28:28 AM

I also thought about the x4 955, but in SA they aren't that much cheaper, so I'll rather stick with your original build!! Thanks so much!!

Just a question about monitors. Is the Samsung p2450h any good?? Asus screens are very rare over here!
April 19, 2010 7:04:30 AM

Anyone?? Is this good ram?
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